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Two big names at Breitbart have resigned according to Buzzfeed. Shapiro in particular is pissed, claiming Brietbart has completely sold out to the Trump campaign.
Is it alright for a conservative outlet to be an outlet in the tank for one particular candidate? Is this a new trend, or is it just more easily exposed these days? Hell, is it even true?
A lot of their readership, judging from their dominance in the comments section, are Trump supporters.
Breitbart itself isn’t explicitly Anti-Trump but from what I’ve seen they, or at least a part of their staff, are pushing more for Ted Cruz.
From what I’ve seen and read, she was probably yanked back at her arm with which she was reaching towards Trump with seemingly an object in hand and it probably wasn’t Trump’s campaign manager but one of the SS agents who did it.
Most major conservative outlets are ‘in the tank’ for their moral superiors. So when push comes to shove they’ve all been in the tank for the liberal establishment, up until recently.
I wouldn’t go and claim the readership for any major news outlet is reflected in the comment section… a lot seem to be AIambigious, not driven replies that don’t even seem aware what the above story is even about. I suspect there are ad agencies that specialize in news websites, load a range of comments up, and randomly target select news sites for a kind of reader.
Fox News is the worst case if it, absolutely no moderation… so it can be a story about flood victims, and 70% of the comments are about sending Hillary to Jail… which us a good idea in and of itself, but terribly off topic.
You get a sense it’s generic RNC opinions floating very randomly there.
I go to Iranian websites, like Press TV, it’s 95% human generated, hate longing drivel. Its the old Soviet style jingoism. So bad, Shieldmaiden could write for them.
Then you head to India… nobody comments but real people, because nobody in India buys boys like this to mass pollute the comment sections. I remember one funny thread about the Neanderthals genome partially surviving in the percentile of 1-4 percent… everyone in the comment sections were trying to write off states within India as being 40%-70% Neanderthal, or 100%.
You can’t have long conversations like that in the west, cause the sections are heavily moderated for insults like that, looking for spambots, but choose to overlook the political spam horribly off topic. We aren’t usually willing to invest in human propaganda in the comment sections like Iran is, and while India is every bit as politically devisive as the west, only 1% of it’s population has internet access, and the English speaking pages are viewed largely by foreigners and overseas Indians unlikely to vote. In the US, it’s mostly people likely to vote… so it’s heavily targeted… by everything.
End result us I see people shouting to know what the he’ll all the comments are about, nothing to do with the story. Your seeing less and less people respond to one another in heated debates.
Your also seeing less blantant commercial spam. Its political party spam instead.
As to news organizations backing parties or even candidates, this has always happened. In West Virginia, we still have old laws on the books demanding if one newspaper exists, the opposite party must also have a news paper as well… under the presumption a newspaper will back a party in a monopoly. So end result is newspapers end up becoming party oriented, or have to share it’s publications equally down party lines.
Fair? No… violates the fuck out of Free Speech, a Free Media. Political parties have a reality in life, but not constitutionally, and my state has 6 major statewide political parties, but this is aimed only at the Dems and Republicans. Reporters as a result aren’t able to gave the complete freedom to report as they like, newspapers can’t change their philosophical emphasis,shrug off the party they are forced to be attached to, despite being legally independent as a business, and head out in it’s own direction easily.
Newspapers have always backed politicians. You hear each year who this or that newspaper is backing for political parties. This has a real effect on elections. Politicians know this, and eagerly seek their backing. Its been going on forever.
But we usually balance this with media ethics, the willingness to search out stories and report even the bad news, that hurt their favored candidates or world view. Giving a voice to the opposition, etc.
I think this is largely still at play. Yes, you see Glen Beck jump on the Cruz bandwagon. Fox was stuck in torment backing the RNC, or Trump, especially when Kelly Megan was in the embassassing spotlight… you can see guys like Mr. Reasonable are politically programmed with the Koch Brothers drivel… that only happened after conservative outlets started hitting George Soros… it was hurting the left so they created a opposite and equal pariah on the right to counterbalance the effects (when you see someone wail against the Koch Brothers and denounce Fox News, they are purely programmedNews zombies, never check out the oppositions news. They aren’t a real news story, it’s like Ron Burgundy putting car chases on the news).
Its important to get a mix of news stories. I get it from all major platforms in the US, and international sites. You can’t hope for completely unbiased reporting, especially in this era.
Turd,
It looks to me that perhaps you forgot that there is also a 0 in that figure after 1.
Right now, as we speak, India has 121 million internet users, which stands at 10% of its total 1.2 billion population.
Secondly, in the case you are now aware of the facts and figures, India has the second largest English speaking population, just behind US.
According to some serveys and estimates, more than 12% of Indians speak English. And, that list does not include people like me who understand it well enough but do not speak in routine.
With love,
Sanjay
Now, you can write a long post with your usual babling besides calling/accusing me of being a nationalist.
I am ready for that.
With love,
Sanjay
The accusation isn’t that Breitbart is anti-Trump, it’s that it’s so pro-Trump that they are covering up legitimate news for him. That’s why Shapiro says he left. Having looked at the video tape over the past few hours though, I tend to agree with you that the reporter wasn’t ‘attacked’ and ‘pushed down’ like she says. It looks to me like whatever contact was made wasn’t even enough to break her stride or change her facial expression.
Ad agencies, and political campaigns too.
No, it seems more like the comments sections become the counter for the propaganda that is the article often these days- that’s why plenty of sites are starting to close their comments sections off entirely.
It makes me wonder how that backing affects editorial policy. On the range between “This is one editor’s opinion” on one end and “Because of our endorsement we will never report anything negative about the Candidate until after election, and lie in their favor if we can get away with it” on the other, what does a typical endorsement actually mean for the paper’s content, you think?
I know but that accusation is so very biased that I oppose it by simply stating what I see which is just the opposite.
Breitbart is one of the few conservative news sites which has been quite balanced about Trump which is why it’s a magnet for Trump supporters.
Somewhere all those Trump supporters are going to get their news about Trump and it’s probably going to be from those sources which are more positive about him. More positive relative to the negativity found on many other sites.
Last statistic I saw said 1%, but I may very well be wrong Zinnati. I saw it mentioned on a Indian Site as part of the Freedom 251 scandal, people were stumped how a smartphone could cost less than 1 gig of data at Indian rates, and went off to list the amount of the population with any access to the internet.
I’m aware English is still a official language, saw the business contracts for the company was written in English, on a 50 Rupee paper… which I’m told is rather cheap, as people use more expensive 200$ ones for rent contracts, but it also apparently depends on the state issuing them.
I’ve learned a lot from that scandel… including that 1% statistic. And you are a nationalist, almost as bad as Shieldmaiden. I only gotta point to your outburst here for using what may very well be a mistaken statistic, that could of easily been corrected. I like India, but hated the dimwitted Nationalist in India tyrranizing everyone. I also hate them in other countries as well though. I stick to a Cosmopolitan ideal.
It depends, Ucci, on the site. Many sites refuse to allow comments, or rarely, especially overseas. Some of the nastiest tend to be on Canadian sites, I see a lot of growth for the Klan up there… some real fucking shitheads. They are monitored for spam, not thought policing.
In Europe, it’s about thought control… which leads to the present violence and broken unity in continental policy… half of Europe freaked out over the death kneel PC Liberalism brought to Europe via the migrant dispute… now military units are policing walls since built. I was advocating building walls long before this, it’s hardly a reaction to Syria, but Syria like scenarios. Just common sense… Europe fooled half it’s population into believing this, and anyone who disagreed with the PC outlook was evil or racist… that’s hardly the case, the opposite if anything. Turkey should of built it’s own wall earlier facing Syria and Iraq. Thats the actual NATO frontier. These kinds of discussions aren’t possible in many parts of Europe due the the rhetorical hold the radical left has on many countries hate laws. The position in and of itself is quite moderate and balanced, lots of countries do it, even share the burden like Malaysia and Thailand.
BBC has heavily restricted the option to even have comments at the bottom of new stories, but they still occur… it’s another Anti-Speech nation, where thinking and having opinions, openly discussing them is illegal.
CNN is heavily moderating them to the point I’ve stopped looking, they don’t represent anyone anymore.
A lot of sites have self moderation by a community of active moderators, who can flag a comment. I can usually open them, if I click.
But honestly… this overall isn’t a new phenomena, newspapers gave always backed candidates. They have selective attention. Is this really a shocking, new discovery?
I still think there’s a difference between backing with an official endorsement from the opinion editor, and backing by creating a wartime editorial policy that shuts down anti-candidate news and discussion. Breitbart is being accused of that- it’s started to look to me as if that’s not so, having watched the video. It seems like Shapiro is sticking up senselessly for this woman.
Even with the thought-police comment post control here and there, it basically all follows the theme of “We ban sexist, racist, and homophobic speech, but because we are far leftists, we consider anything a conservative or moderate may say to be sexist, racist, or homophobic.” You can see in a sense how what they think they are doing is something other than political partisanship. But banning ‘racism’ loosely defined as ‘saying anything bad about immigrants’ is still different to me than banning ‘criticism of Mitch’ where Mitch is a specific political candidate about whom ideologically pure individuals may disagree.
In otherwords, nobody is surprised that Brietbart isn’t writing stories about how awesome Hillary Clinton is- as a conservative rag, they disagree with virtually every opinion she has. But going from conservative in general to Trumpist in particular is to me a much further, worse step.
And, when was that last time exactly, 10 years ago 0r 20 years ago!
No, my young friend. You are simply lying. The fact of the matter is that you never checked it in your life. You just assumed lying on your couch that as India is a quite backward country ( which is right in some contexts) thus it should not have more than 1-2% of internet penetration. And, that is precisely how you conclude mostly, even complex philosophical issues. And, that is precisely why you never get the clear understanding of the issues.
You are a victim of i know all syndrome, which infects young and immature minds very easily. My 22 year old son also sometimes behaves just like you. Then, i have to slap slightly on the back of his head and remind him what he is doing. Unfortunately (both for you and me), i cannot do the same with you on the internet.
Again plying to that image of mine which you have created in your mind.
Of course, i am certainly a nationalist but it has nothing to do with nationalism. My definition of nationalism does not forbid me to see and accept the ground realities. It does not compel me to lie about my country either.
I was just letting you know the realities, for your benefit, not mine, so that you would not repeat the same mistake again in front of others. Had you claimed that India has 50% internet penetration, i would have corrected you in the same way as of now. You can try it next time. Post any such good thing about India which is not actually there, bring it to my notice, and i would correct that in the same way as i done here.
My guess is you were as wrong about Iran also as you were about India. But, i cannot correct/challenge that because i myself do not know enough about Iran. And, there is no Iranian on the board, so you can babble as much about that country as you like to display your knowledge. You do it all the time, almost on every issue.
Turd, if you want to improve in your life, drop this habit of assuming that you can know the story of long novel just by knowing its title. This does not happen, never happened for anyone in the history of mankind so far. And, not going to happen in your case either.
And, realize, all this is not meant to criticize you. Criticising you does not serve me any purpose because i do not see you as an opponent, over whom i have to win an argument. I am just correcting you, for your benefit, if you can realize, see and accept that, though chances are very less. But, being an optimist and a religious person also, i never lose hope and keep on trying.
with love,
sanjay
Yes, you can see how I can be confused. I was under the impression you were a militant nationalist trying to whip out the stick on anyone remotely threatening both within India or overseas that blemishes your immaculate view of your war torn, polluted shithole of a country. You live in one if the most backwards countries of the planet, where militant nationalists just like you bombed Bodhi Gaya not too long ago, who beat people on the street to death for no fucking reason, that prefers glorious self aggrandizing rhetoric over acknowledging your problems. Its why I had to watch for a month as the Indian army beat themselves with sticks, to instill discipline… instead of just having… discipline.
Your son sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders, learned not to listen to old fools. His mother clearly raised him well.
Your 100% bad nationalist. I’m sticking to my 1% statistic as it came from a far more reliable source than you. You are not India, no one crowned you king. I have a dozen English Indian news sites I can look to for news. If I want the opinion of a super nationalist, who screams at the slightest unwelcoming news, I will cone to you.
And Mexico is 53% last I heard, internet access… it was a few months back in relation to when playboy announced it was getting rid of nudes, the Mexicans don’t all have access, so still rely on magazines.
I would admit, 1% sounds damn low, but I got that from a tech site I believe. By the way, you were wrong about Freedom 251, you completely got that wrong, and never apologized to me for your last round of bickering. Even the government says it is a scam, and it’s Telecom partner us suing it, as well as Adcom. Zinnati 100% deep in the wrong, too proud to admit it.
I reported correctly in the very beginning. Apologize to me, then apologize to India for insulting it by being a bad nationalist, dragging it through the muck. Then go put your son online, I want to talk to him, he sounds like a great man.
Does it matter if a paper blindly follows a party vs a party leader?
Its blindly following in either case. I hate political parties, so Trump and Sanders is a Godsend. Parties are a alliance in flux… when they stagnate, bad shit happens. Tea Party couldn’t shake up the Republicans, Occupy Wall street, despite being manufactured, couldn’t shake up the dems. Its now a changing of the guards. Time for renewal. Its a very good thing… because every card is potentially on the table of axing. Very good, convincing reasons will have to be made for what remains of the parties, and what gets tossed aside. Both parties suck, perhaps these two can breathe new ideas into them, make them more relavent.
My phone is currently throttled datawise, so it’s gonna be a while to track down the 1% story, I go through Google News and read every English language site on Freedom 251, I got my info off a tech site, but I have a few dozen pages of purple links to shift through.
This link I just found:
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Only 20 percent of Indians have occasional access to the internet… this can mean simply a internet cafe.
14 percent have smart phones. Smart phones aren’t land lines. It costs a million dollars per mile to lay down fiber optic cables, and your country is struggling hard just to get toilets in every community. Cellphones do edge the number up a considerable bit, but if you subtracted that 14 from 20, it would just be 8%… and that’s a internet poll, not of people without access obviously.
Of course, maybe India did put strong emphasis on laying fiber optic cables, while skipping out on desalination of the salty ground water India has so much of, or putting toilets in, all so Zinnati can run amok burning flags and waving machetes like a crazed, proud nationalist who is out to crush any negative publicity.
As for the Iranian site I mentioned, it’s www.presstv.com
Click on the stories, it’s modelled off the old Soviet era Jingoism, but more hateful. I occasionally see Pravda report unbiased, straight up factual news when the news works well for it.
I learned about David Cameron and Piggate from Presstv first… I thought they were making that shit up, wouldn’t be too unusual, but sure the fuck not…
I have yet to see Maia or Magsj come out kicking and screaming like a emotionally retarded man child defending Cameron like I see you fighting tooth and nail for India. Yes… India is a ass backwards, truly horrible place. Indians living in my town for more than a few years, returning to India on vacations, get horribly sick… their immune systems can’t take it anymore. People die in the thousands in stampedes. Guerillas fight everywhere.
Yet, it is also the home of the original promethius institute, of Gandhi and Chanakya and Buddha, a reservoir of important philosophies and a part of our future. I just wish they can put all the militants and ass dragging nationalists like your on a ship and send it to Antarctica.
One needs humility in acknowledging ones struggles, as a individual and a society. When I said I love India I really mean it. But I don’t mean I love idiots like you who only want to hear positive lies in a echo chamber.
Just as expected.
But i would still not considering you a gone case case.
I still see some hope in you.
withlove,
sanjay
Turd is a hater.
Okay… that’s Shieldmaiden. I’m waiting in Trixie, James, and Leyla now. Maybe Gig if he is giddy and wanting to join the bandwagon of opprotunitistic bad losers. Lets get all the forum losersshitheads in a row so I can row a strike. Come on now, don’t be shy.
Its due to my unbounded optimist, the hope you see. I see nothing but a crumugeon in you Zinnati. When your a nationalist like Shieldmaiden… seeing only the bad in other nations but hold your own society up to perfection, you miss the ugly that a philosopher should be looking to in their own back yard. Australia has a generally higher crime rate, including police brutality (they are lower in select categories of crime, and most of the US is generally lower than Australia).
Look at the American members of the site, we don’t hesitate to air our bad garbage. Its nasty, it’s embarrassing, but it’s also truthful, and philosophically productive. Thankfully my society doesn’t have it’s head up it’s ass, that even the most nationalistic, our conservatives, aren’t afraid to point out when shit is going all to hell.
We air our bad laundry, debate it to a pulp, work on solutions. Its why we have really high GDPs relative to most nations (including Europe, yes, even Western Europe for the most part, save for three nations, one of which, Norway, may no longer count given it’s economy is collapsing).
We work on our issues. Guys like me explore ideas from other cultures. We examine our laws, scrutinize our police methods, fight and bicker over taxes, and the use of money. Its why we are on top… not from a repressive nationalism, thought control, crazily proclaiming how great we are in blantant absurdity to reality. Its funny for Joker to mock a hypothetical singing of “I’m proud to be an American” at a concert, but damn fucking sad if someone did that next to starving homeless people. He never did that, but it’s a believable hypothetical he wouldn’t hesitate to prounce on. His anti nationalism is of far more effective use that your twisted, backwards nationalism.
I’m just glad enough Indians and Australians care to debate the truth of the hardships their nations face, and not embrace the farce your both after. You should be here discussing the problems of your society, just like we Americans don’t hesitate to do with ours. If you can’t, your undeserving of democracy. It takes constant vigilance, a few media, a refusal to gloss the black parts of the human condition with the golden charms of nationalism and positive sayings. Screaming “yes we can” doesn’t do you any good if your unaware if the seriousness of the obstacles before you.
Like I said. You are a hater.
and a loser, who resorts to the ‘We’ when he thinks he is losing and needs backup.
Ucci,
What about The Washington Post! Is it also a biased paper, and towards whom?
With love,
Sanjay