Pandora
(Pandora)
November 27, 2008, 4:56am
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Mumbai Attacks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/26_Novembe … ai_attacks
Brooke Anderson, a national-security spokeswoman for President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team, said Obama “strongly condemns” the attacks. “The U.S. must continue to strengthen our partnerships with India and nations around the world to root out and destroy terrorist networks. We stand with the people of India, whose democracy will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks,” she said.
Seth Jones, a Middle East and terrorism specialist at the Rand Corp. think tank, said that if the attacks turn out to be connected with militant groups in Pakistan it would indicate a troubling regional trend in which conflicts between and within Pakistan, India, and Afghanistan are flowing into one another. The recent attacks at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, Pakistan, and the Indian embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, as well as the Mumbai attack could represent a trend, and would require the U.S. to consider a more regional strategy to terrorism in South Asia.
blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/11/2 … i-attacks/
youtube.com/watch?v=uTwUAAmR … re=related
Is Obama planning on sending troops to Pakistan?
Impenitent
(Impenitent)
November 27, 2008, 5:31am
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no, obama is planning on raising taxes, cutting defense spending and increasing by trillions deficit spending on stupid social programs that will bankrupt this country.
tea party on the way here, the rest of the world will have to sort itself out for a bit…
-Imp
Fent
(Fent)
November 27, 2008, 12:14pm
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I didn’t think you believed in causation.
Impenitent
(Impenitent)
November 27, 2008, 2:24pm
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“reason” is unreasonable…
-Imp
omar
(omar)
November 27, 2008, 4:46pm
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For what reason do you think that reason is unreasonable?
MagsJ
(..a chic geek, de Grande-dame!)
November 27, 2008, 10:38pm
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Pandora
(Pandora)
November 29, 2008, 5:37am
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India’s Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said “external forces” were behind the attacks, a thinly veiled reference to India’s neighbor and longtime foe Pakistan. Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee went further, telling reporters that “elements with links to Pakistan” were involved.
But Pakistan’s President and Prime Minister both condemned the attacks and rejected any talk of Pakistani involvement. Pakistani officials also announced that the head of the powerful Inter-Services Intelligence organization (ISI) — often accused of orchestrating terrorist assaults on India — would travel to India to offer assistance in investigating the Mumbai massacre.
time.com/time/world/article/ … html?imw=Y
India blamed “elements” from Pakistan on Friday for the assault on its financial capital, Mumbai, raising the prospect of a breakdown in peace efforts between the nuclear-armed rivals.
But Pakistan said it was not to blame, and in an unprecedented step, agreed to send the head of its military’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) agency to India to share information.
Pakistani leaders were quick to condemn the Mumbai attacks and on Friday they denied involvement…“The germs of terrorist elements were not produced in security agencies’ labs in Pakistan,” the Foreign Ministry cited Zardari [Pakistan’s President] as saying. “Pakistan could neither gain anything nor does the democratic government believe in such tactics,” he said.
uk.reuters.com/article/wtMostRea … dChannel=0
Pandora
(Pandora)
December 7, 2008, 8:16pm
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Zardari with Larry King - December 2, 2008:
King : It’s a privilege to welcome to Larry King Live the president of Pakistan. From his office in Islamabad, President Asif Ali Zardari. He took office in September. He’s the widower of the former Pakistani prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, both of whom were on this programme in the past.
Now, Mr President, aside from the gunmen themselves, who do you believe was responsible for the terrorist attacks against Mumbai?
Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan President : Larry, I think these are stateless actors who have been operating all throughout the region. The gunmen, plus the planners, whoever they are, they are stateless actors who are holding hostage the whole world.
King : So the state of Pakistan is in no way responsible, you’re saying. Right?
Zardari : The state of Pakistan is no way responsible. That I believe. Even the White House and the American CIA have said that today. The state of Pakistan is of course not involved. We’re part of the victims, Larry.
I’m a victim. The state of Pakistan is a victim. We are the victims of this war, and I am sorry for the Indians, and I feel sorry for them.
I’ve seen this pain. I feel this pain every time I see my children. I can see it in their eyes. This pain lives with me because of my wife and what we are going through in Pakistan.
youtube.com/watch?v=IDjLbyC3uaM
Rice on Terrorism - December 7, 2008:
I did say to the Pakistanis that the argument that these are nonstate actors is not acceptable. In fact, nonstate actors acting from your territory is still your responsibility…there may have been support elements – not of the Pakistani government, but within Pakistan – that were helping these terrorists."
abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6411231
December 5, 2008 -
Peshawar, Pakistan -A deadly car bomb killed several people in Pakistan in Peshawar, northwest Pakistan. The death toll rose to 29 and more than a 100 people were seriously wounded. The bomb went off near Peshawar’s famed Storyteller’s Bazaar wrecking a Shiite Muslim Mosque and a hotel. It set ablaze a string of vehicles, an old building and a hotel…The provincial government in Pakistan has blamed the blasts on “external forces” which is understood in Pakistan to indicate towards India. On the other hand, there have been several instances of suicide bombings in Pakistan by Taliban fighters as well.
chattahbox.com/world/2008/12/06/ … -pakistan/
Impenitent:
the inductive fallacy
-Imp
As rendered via Hume’s deductive argument?