determinism is real, the path of least resistance in reference to determinism, energy expenditure, cause and effect and determinism is real, every action has and causes an equal and opposite reaction / cause and effect is real
cause and effect is an inescapable and pre fundamental state of creation, it’s absolute, mathmatical, mathmatically, absolute, 1 + 1 (1+1, it’s always a thing that’s coordinated and the entire summarization of philosophy). at first it seems that cause and effect is contradictive or paradoxical at first, when understanding absolute certaintism, which is the absolute certainty that a fact is real, in order to have something, I must first perform an action, there cannot be a causeless effect, an effect apart from a cause or rational explanation. There cannot be, outside of the universe, a boundary without or apart from a rational dictation or element, if you ran into a wall cause and effect and logic dictate there must be an explanation, go far enough back and probability suggest there must first cause, an intelligent cause that is responsible for creation but an omnipotent one? It goes so far back that there is no beginning that there only exists this dynamic and begets it’s aggreget, the certitude of a substantial reason for this paradox, a wall with no reason, behind everything is a rational explanation which suggests that there is no beginning to time or creation outside of the big bang
there’s a rational reason for everything and an even greater one the more articulate the phenomena, God also measures up to the concept of efficiency, God is infinite and 100% efficient
nothing exists without a paternal cause, nothing exists without a greater resource
I liked where you are going with this. I just didn’t follow your logic at the end step.
I think you are saying that, because the ideas of infinite regress and infinite extension of reality (due to the undeniable fact of cause-and-effect and determinism, i.e. the Principle of Sufficient Reason that nothing happens for literally NO reason) seem nonsensical we must assume there is a God somehow at the beginning to kick off everything, a first cause that is greater than the things which it caused. Is that right?
If so, why does God or the first cause not need to have itself been caused by anything? If it can be exempt from the natural laws of cause-and-effect and determinism, then why can’t reality itself simply be exempt from them? Well I can answer that, because as we see it reality is NOT exempt from them at least as far as we can see (excluding some weird quantum-level claims). So maybe reality has an underlying greater source from which our causal deterministic reality comes, either originally in a distant past or continuously at the ‘bottom’ of our reality.
So what about infinite extension? If you were to keep going, would you ever hit an ultimate wall beyond which nothing exists? But that is a contradiction too. So must we assume that at some far edge of reality there is either 1) God, or 2) another ‘bottom’ source-level beyond and giving rise to our reality’s causation-determinism? Or is there a third option?
Kant noted that both options are irrational from our perspective (either a first cause or an infinite regress, as applied either to time or space) and concluded this was one reason to suppose that our particular form of reasoning/thinking is inherently flawed, or at least inherently limited and unable to contemplate properly about such larger issues.
what about infinite extension? If you were to keep going, would you ever hit an ultimate wall beyond which nothing exists? But that is a contradiction too. So must we assume that at some far edge of reality there is either 1) God, or 2) another ‘bottom’ source-level beyond and giving rise to our reality’s causation-determinism? Or is there a third option?
if there wasn’t a think that created or is the reason for something like a wall the the entire nothing of reason and cause and effect itself are destroyed therefore an infinite universe, there cannot be a cosmic wall without extension beyond that, nothing does not exist, only someone therefore truth is all there is, everything that is has a reason or intelligence that is it’s cause (kant and sufficient reason), the more articulate the effect the more articulate the cause and so on though as for creation there must gave been a direct and intelligence in creation beyond our universe that dictated/orchestrated existence because whatever happened first had to have a sinew of "rational intent’ to perform an action and not just that but creat what we see or know today, there is nothing that is aside or departed from a rational explanation, whatever was first or created fist has an intent behind it because it’s not separate from a rational intent, that would be contradictive, there has to be a reason and that is it’s rational, a sinew of intelligent reasoning for what is made not just from nothing , no reason would be contradictive, owever the universe outside ours could not have had a starting point because that would destroy the fundamental of cause and effect that there must always be a cause to an effect or it would not be rational, there for God is infinite and always has been, no beginning
Kant noted that both options are irrational from our perspective (either a first cause or an infinite regress, as applied either to time or space) and concluded this was one reason to suppose that our particular form of reasoning/thinking is inherently flawed, or at least inherently limited and unable to contemplate properly about such larger issues
Where did God come from, and why is God what it is, and why does God not need its own causal history, and why is this “God”/first cause something intelligent/sentient/mind and not rather (as Ockham’s razor would imply) just something more like a fundamental principle a logically irreducible necessity?
For example, we already established the ontological nature of facts. Why is a sentient, living, thinking God necessary when we could just suppose reality derives from something as a “first cause” more like facticity-as-such? The fact that facts are what they are, A=A and that is that, metaphysically tied into a closed loop ouroboros-like. Wouldn’t it be more logical to suppose there exists some set of primary fundamental Facts from which everything else in reality derives causally-deterministically?
Or if you have a reason to think the primary foundational thing, whatever it is, must be some kind of divine/sentient/conscious/alive being then from where and why/how does such a being even exist in the first place?
existence is infinite, you cannot have something unless it has always been or where does it come from, there must be a reason and reasoning from what is created, even a sinew of reason for what appears no matter how small large that thing is, things don’t come from nothing, there for God always has been
Ok but why does it need to be GOD, why can’t it be some irreducible fundamental natural law or principle? And what is the structure-nature of this God, how does it think, how is it alive, where does it reside, what are its constituent parts and how do they work together for its being? No one knows this stuff, and you don’t even seem to realize that these are legitimate philosophical questions.
