# My Musical Qabalah.

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> [@Moving in a vacuum? Erm, no.](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/moving-in-a-vacuum-erm-no/48976/239):
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> Fight Club 1999: Jack finds out the truth.

This now reminds me of something I wrote on April 9, 2010:

> The experiments or attempts (both _Versuche_ in German) of the great man—that is, the man of strong _will_—become temptations (also _Versuche_) when they flow into the public sphere, for the distance created by them between themselves and ‘the rest’ arouses in some among this ‘rest’ the _pathos_, the feeling, of distance, and this in turn arouses in some _erôs_, that is, the will to narrow the distance between themselves and the one who aroused it. These others see reflected in that great man their own ‘next’ selves, which they then seek to attain.
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> You obviously see your ‘next’ self reflected in Nietzsche. And in seeking to attain that, you inadvertently become someone in whom others see their own ‘next’ selves reflected. But what about Nietzsche himself? More generally, what about the genuine philosopher himself? If he is the highest human being (and I agree with Laurence Lampert that he _is_), in whom can he himself see his ‘next’ self reflected? It can only be in a _god_ (compare Gay Science 143. Also, Nietzsche says somewhere that the Greek nobility related themselves to their gods as lower nobility to higher nobility). Zarathustra was Nietzsche’s Dionysus, Nietzsche himself was Zarathustra’s soul, his Ariadne. Nietzsche imagined a Dionysus who gave everything to him (see TSZ Of the Great Longing, which is the mature counterpart to the Night-Song). Because Zarathustra gave everything to him, he himself became overfull, he himself became a Dionysus. The climax of the Night-Song is when Zarathustra cries that he longs for _speech_. One time when I was ‘living through’ that song, I ran into a wall at that point, because I did not understand what he meant by that. I think I do now. He, a Dionysus, longed for speech by his _Ariadne_. He longed to be a _receiver_ for a change. And this happens after he gives his Ariadne his “last thing to give” in Of the Great Longing. (The only thing that still confuses me a bit is the use of the word “soul” in the Night-Song. In the Night-Song, Zarathustra does not address his soul as a different person, but in Of the Great Longing, he does. I don’t think these two ‘souls’ should be identified. I think that in the Night-Song, “my soul” is just a poetic way of saying “I”, whereas in Of the Great Longing, it designates his _anima_, his _Ariadne_—the Psyche to his Eros).

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