This is my argument against nothingness - btw, I can easily call ‘absolute’ nothingness. In fact, its absurd and a contradiction to say: ‘Absolute something’… Because ‘Something’ is relative. Its like saying ‘Absolute relative’ - I’m not talking about the Absolute of Light being relative to Everything, hence ‘Absolute Relative’ Nor somethingness being Absolute - ‘Absolute Everything’ ‘God’ . But rather a something that has the yet undefined properties of being Absolute Not relative…
here’s the idea:
God = Absolute-Infinity
Death = Absolute
Therefore, at death we become One with god in the Absolute.
God = Absolute Infinity (Relative/potential in the Absolute)
Life = potential/relative
Therefore, in life we become One with god in the potential/relative.
This means we are One with god dead or alive. Alive is relative/potential so the perfection of that Oneness can appear low or absent. But in death there is ‘Absolute’ … I’m not quite sure that ‘Absolute’ means…I’m guessing its NOT relative/potential - calling experience/reality Relative/potential is not nonsense.
you’re right. Nothingness is a waste. You’ll never experience it even if you become it. You’ll never face nothingness even if you become it. Call it ‘0 Experience in Eternity’ - You’re right theres nothing to like about nothingness. Plus You’ll never see your family again - at all: but that doesn’t phase you becuase you’ll never see Everything again even the subtle thought that you miss your family (nor a mind in actuality), so actually, you don’t ‘miss’ anything. But thats sad. So I have hope in the ‘Absolute’, in this case: Absolute Infinity (god) - at death you become Absolute, when you finally become absolute you become One with god in The Absolute, in Every way in Absolute(s) nature (which I’ll argue is NOT experience/reality). However, while in life you are relative/potential, and as god is ‘The Absolute’ god is also relative/potential in the Absolute, so in life you are One with god in the Relative/potential.
That’s odd, because I view Nothingness as peaceful. There is no pain nor pleasure. There is no sadness nor happiness. There is no hate nor love. There is no chaos nor order.
When we die, we return from whence we came. We were nothing in time before our births and we shall be nothing in time after our deaths.
However, my thoughts on nothingness leads me to believe that True Nothingness negates God–it negates Everything. What do you know of God? What do you know of nothingness? When it comes to True Nothingness, Everything (that you can conceptualize, including God) is negated and ceases to be.
No, the nature of True Nothingness is completely unknown.
In fact, all that we know about True Nothingness are the conceptual limits that approach it and surround it, like how light gets sucked into the singularity of a black hole.
Real, I believe you contradicted yourself by saying ‘Everything is negated’ becuase that would involve negation of the nature of nothingness itself. The nature of nothingness (as we’ve talked about before) is the very reality of nothingness. Therefore, Not even nothingness is Negation of EVERYTHING. The nature of nothingness cannot be negated.
You’ve taken verbal semantics (false absolutes) and constructed a theory for god involving the absolute of nothingness upon death.
I think.
Neither exists.
Even a vacuum has spacial dimensions; a black hole is a gravitational singularity; there is no nothingness;
There are no absolutes besides the absolute absence of absolutes.
Apaosha, from another angle you are accusing me of the invalidity of nothingness but you first have to disprove the fact that experience itself no longer exists (call it ‘0 experience) Whatever jargon you like, call it ‘no experience’ ’ End of experience’ whatever THATS SEMANTICS. To me The end of experience is fate of finite beings (among other ‘ends’) - yes, there is an end of ‘experience’ but that is just a means to a beginning of ‘another reality’. My view is that the ‘other reality’ is of the nature of 0 experience. Experience is another word for Everything , therefore, it follows that 0 Experience (any death) is the 0 Everything?! Destined to a fate of black holes, and yes, it has ‘dimensions’.
These “finite beings” are constructed of flesh and blood, no?
This flesh and blood, a product of materiality, produces in turn consciousness; or your “experience”.
Therefore, upon the termination of “experience” follows the termination of consciousness.
So, you are saying death=nothingness=another reality/afterlife?
I don’t understand what point you are trying to make. Any sort experience (consciousness) is terminated when the physical form giving it existence is destroyed; there can be no afterlife, as there is nothing “living-after”.
In the first one you said ‘pure chaos’ destroyes two laws and in the second one you said ‘There is no chaos nor order’. I believe you are talking in different context(s). I get exactly what you’re trying to say (and it makes sense), but can you clear this up for my own understanding…
Nor somethingness being Absolute - ‘Absolute Everything’ ‘God’ . But rather a something that has the yet undefined properties of being Absolute Not relative…