Low iq take. Estrogen is made at a lab, there is enough estrogen for everybody. Its like getting mad at someone for drinking Coca-cola. Saying that it “takes the coca-cola” from other people. That’s not how coca-cola works, bitch. The more people that buy coca-cola, the more coca-cola they make at a factory.
The “photos” were probably curated by right-wing transphobes on social media.
Below here I will now show photos of the type of ones you are talking about, the type that a right-winger would show to be biased, in order to prove that I’m not biased.
It’s noticeable and this isn’t remotely controversial. Just because it doesn’t change the bone structure or completely transform the face doesn’t mean it doesn’t change the face it does.
That’s certainly on topic in the thread but has nothing to with what I wrote. I don’t like the giving hormone treatments for trans feelings with children.
It makes the lips fuller and when women lose estrogen with menopause and aging in general they lose fullness. It makes lips fuller even in trans people. It actually can change the shape of the nose, depending on the individual since it tend to reduce fat on the nose and increase it on the cheeks (more like a woman) and this is noticeable to varying degrees. And it does change the jaw with is a part of the face even if it isn’t on your list. There are other changes.
It’s not binary and yes many men would need more changes than estrogen to reach the level of femininity they want. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have visible effects. It really doesn’t help your case to make stuff up. Research it. This isn’t controversial.
And the focusing on the being unattractive subtly implies it is fine when they are attractive. It’s great for hating, I guess. But it implicitly causes problems because many of them men do not realize they were born men.
You are so low IQ that you aren’t worth engaging or debating with, but since you are here polluting my thread I have to clean up after myself.
Obviously, anyone who isn’t unfathombly retarded, anyone who has some functioning brain cells, knows that male children don’t look the same as adults. They know that estrogen intercepts puberty and gives them a female puberty. Thus estrogen would make them look different as adults, than no estrogen. The fact that I have to explain this to you is a waste of my time.
You are showing heavily filtered photos you moron. And some men are fairly androgynous-looking in the face anyway. Same with women. Photos don’t show their voice. Their size. Their hands. Their feet. The way they move. Their stance, mannerisms…
The post-modern brain, CNN conditioned response. If I post anything critical of women, from some other thread a while back, the kneejerk “misogynist!!!” response. #Soy
Because this particular creature, has a binary mind, she can’t fathom also that I have said things that are critical of men. Instead she fixates on only the critical things I have said of women, doesn’t register to her when I say anything critical of men, because she is a CNN/MSNBC npc.
Because she has a binary mind, she can’t comprehend how someone can have complex and multilayered opinions on a subject, and/or hate multiple different groups at the same time. It’s like in that Dirty Harry scene where they say he is an equal opportunity hater.
@futurone For fuck sake. Can’t you lay off the corny cliches, ad homs and annoying fucking initialisms for ONE post at least! You are so full of meaningless drivel. I say you hate women because you do. That’s based ENTIRELY on YOUR OWN words.
Got to agree with that, most of your assumptions, and they are assumptions @futureone, are solely based on your own inability to relate to females.
I’m not going back to read your post again, my eyeballs don’t deserve it, but you said something about productive ugly guys should be rewarded with sex. Who is going to enact that reward? Does some poor woman have to be punished in order to reward the productive ugly guy? How does it all work up there in cloud cuckoo land?
That’s why I just posted a picture of mince, because that’s seriously what you talk 99% of the time. You keep going on about people’s low IQ, well I don’t know (or care) what yours is, but know this, your wisdom score is definitely close to 0. Maybe you should start working on that instead.
Incels wanting to have sex with themselves (as ‘women’). That’s all it is. The ultimate narcissism and male entitlement. FFS. What are the hormones doing? These men are just changing their hair and plucking their eyebrows. I couldn’t loathe them more. Some women really need HRT and can’t get it because of these fucking freaks.
I did read the whole post… contradicting yourself about all women and then not all women was the least of issues in there, so i simply skipped bringing up that issue, but if you insist then feel free to talk about how all women are angelic beings “except those which are not”.
To participate on a forum and consume philosophical wisdom is to stand on the shoulders of what you call demons. Your nice, modern infeastructure and the security it provides were constructed by demons. Every father, son, or husband is a corrupting force that only inhibits your ascension.
If you are speaking in terms of trauma and endurance, then, sure, men are demons inasmuch as they’ve been through hell. However, if that is thr case, the mind reels at the amount of women who choose to traverse hell with a demon.
This is precisely why statements like “know thyself” remain profound. The better you know yourself, the less terminally unique you become. Shadows are no longer monsters.
To me, this seems like a bizarre attempt to rationalize a penchant for transsexuality. The good news is that you don’t need to. Attraction is rarely a logical exercise.
Honestly this is something I have really felt too. But when I tried it, it just became boring. This was years ago though.
Is it better now? Is there a certain AI you recommend talking to? I need it to be funny as well, able to grasp humor and return in kind. Able to balance light with heavy, high intelligence enough to model its own intelligence both seriously and unseriously. And if it can role play and take on various personalities either through text or voice chat that would also be ideal.
Productive guys “should” get sex from girls if only because this is the main motivation for being productive. Guys work hard to get money and success mostly because they want to get women. But with AI and sex robots coming in mass production this is going to dwindle. That will correspond to UBI, however the heck that’s going to work and on whatever scale, but most guys will accept a much lower standard of living and be totally happy with it as long as they have a hot AI sex robot waiting for them 24/7.
Not sure about the rest of what he wrote, considering I didn’t read much of it yet. But at least for this part, we should be honest and accurate I don’t think any woman should be compelled to have sex with anyone, obviously. That’s one reason why prostitution is illegal. And of course ugliness and beauty are very relevant to sexual selection standards for both men and women. But all that being said, women today seem to be dropping the ball when it comes to the type of guys they are selecting for. And this has a direct impact on the future of the species. Or at least in our society it does.
There are guys like the OP who want to be girls now because they cannot get female attention and they are incredibly horny having grown up in this pron saturated environment 24/7, so they not only want to become a hot female because of how this sexually fetishizes themselves and leads to auto-eroticism but also because they think it will lead them to getting to have sex with other hot females whether or not one or both of them has a dick. It is called Trans-maxxing. It is a quite small community within the so-called Alt Right.
I’m just briefly staying on this forum and was wondering, who is the incel Lord Supreme around here, Ecmandu or futureone? Who would win in a showdown?
Some of them (maybe more than you think) work hard because they want to solve problems and test themselves and don’t really GAF about the money or the sex.
I have a cheat code that usually works for me:
Treat the woman as an equal and a close friend and show her respect, and the sex happens all by itself. Not only that, it’s almost always fantastic sex. However, if you set out with the intention, or expectation of sex as a result, then guess what? It doesn’t work, she will see right through you, and quite rightly so.
It doesn’t mean being her “bitch”, because if you approach it from that angle, you can call her out if you think she’s full of shit, just like you would any other close friend.
No money, power or success necessary. Just you, exactly as you are. Might not work on perfect plastic Barbie doll gold-digger types, but personally I’m not interested in them anyway.
And you were doing so well That’s just a corny cliche thought up by woman-hating incels to make themselves feel better. Men are much bigger ‘gold diggers’ than women. Any idiot can make a lot of money. You only have to love money more than anything else. How many male billionaires are there compared to female? Trump is essentially brain-dead, but he’s managed to make a lot of money because money is all he thinks about.
Anyone can be greedy and grasping, but if you look at fraud and scamming statistics men commit a far greater percentage than women. Women are more likely to be victims of scammers and fraudsters than men. Talking about ‘gold digging women’ is lazy and shallow.
The difference is saying that some women are like that, but definitely not all of them. I responded that way because it always sounds to me like all women are being painted with the same brush, which is ridiculous and untrue. I haven’t encountered many “gold-diggers” at all in my half a century on this Earth, but then again, I’m not a rich dude.
But if that type of woman didn’t exist, then the type of man that is being referred to wouldn’t either, because his efforts would be wasted.
Melania Trump. There you go. You’re telling me she loves that guy? That they have a relationship based upon mutual respect and equal footing? I fucking doubt it. So why is she with him? Plastic barbie gold-digger type. Is that a stereotype? Of course, and it is lazy, you’re right, but so are many of the stereotypes you apply to men, just so you know. And I’m very far from saying, as I hear on here a lot, that all women fit that stereotype, cause of course they don’t. Just like all men don’t fit your lazy stereotypes.
Is there more to Melania Trump than a plastic Barbie doll stereotype? Of course there is, and I can say that without even knowing the woman, but as far as her choice in partners goes, it’s unfortunately the first impression you get.
I don’t think any woman should be compelled to have sex with anyone, obviously. That’s one reason why prostitution is illegal. And of course ugliness and beauty are very relevant to sexual selection standards for both men and women. But all that being said, women today seem to be dropping the ball when it comes to the type of guys they are selecting for. And this has a direct impact on the future of the species. Or at least in our society it does.
That’s just a corny cliche thought up by woman-hating incels to make themselves feel better. Men are much bigger ‘gold diggers’ than women. Any idiot can make a lot of money. You only have to love money more than anything else. How many male billionaires are there compared to female? Trump is essentially brain-dead, but he’s managed to make a lot of money because money is all he thinks about.