What behavior do you consider detrimental?
What progress have you made over the years you two have repeated the cycle? Please excuse me if I don’t see any.
Let’s examine this a little closer.
God is grace. People want their revenge. They hate god.
The devil is an extremely hard job. It’s a neutral job, the devil is the accuser. It can be used to protect or condemn people. The devil has the power to win any argument.
The Buddha teaches with no attachment.
Then you have death: death doesn’t just run the earths four seasons… winter, spring, summer, fall. It runs cosmic seasons.
The controller is where the devil sends people (what you’d call hell) when the devil beats you in a debate.
I’ve had all these jobs before:
I can take power, but it’s not worth it. That’s not a nihilistic phrase. I’m looking out for all of you while I’m back in a mind again.
Everyone got my accuser spirit confused with my actual spirit.
That’s all about you. We’ve heard it all before. What’s it got to do with Gib’s theory of consciousness? Nothing you have said so far even hints that you read it.
I explained conscious.
It occurs because existence can’t be destroyed.
Duh. Because we’re here!
Consciousness is a side effect of existence being infinite. This causes self recursion which is consciousness.
It’s a side effect of infinity always approaching itself but can never get there.
That’s why beings are conscious.
But then people always wonder why everyone has to be different.
Existence can’t exist if all people are the same.
As usual, you project your own felt deficiencies, in this case, on consciousness. How does that relate to Gib’s theory?
Wow. You’re trying really hard.
You need self recursion for consciousness.
That’s a non starter.
The question is why and where does self recursion occur?
I’m teaching gib, gib is not teaching me.
I’m teaching you, you are not teaching me.
You dodged the question and revealed you could care less what this thread is about. You’re squatting on this thread. To you it’s just another place for you to display your grandiose psychotic delusional system. You don’t know or care what Gib proposed. If you had any boundaries you’d keep this stuff on your own threads. Just sayin.
You sound like a sighted person berating a blind person for not seeing the color green.
Show me what progress looks like.
Honest feedback is not berating. Progress here would engaging constructively with Gib’s theory. What of his idea of the difference between experiential and epistemic consciousness? Does it make sense? Why? Why not? Getting on topic would be progress.
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Thank you. Ec… do the impossible.
… says his co-dependent enabler. He claims to do the impossible every day. What I’m asking is well within his power as an ordinary human being…
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Ec, self recursion starts at the ‘mirror stage’ or, when the one stared down below stares at one above and understands, it’s merely reflective play, among others.
I know that meno. The problem is gib is asking the wrong question. Felix is getting all charged up about it. Gib can defend himself perfectly fine. Felix literally called me explaining consciousness hijacking a thread and trolling gib.
Felix. I don’t know why you’re so mad at me. Threads can derail and stay on topic simultaneously.
I’ll explain consciousness even more.
Without others, memory degrades to nothing.
That makes it impossible to be conscious.
When people earnestly try to destroy their souls (which is different than having a mind), instead they wake up to a world where nobody remembers them at all.
You can’t destroy a soul. You can go to hell though.
All my posts in this thread have been on topic in one way or the other.
It’s not like I posted a picture of puffy nipples in this thread. I’ve been on topic the whole time.
Although, if I did post a picture of puffy nipples in this thread, I could ask how that has an impact on your conscience or conscious mind and still be on topic.
I’ll tell you a funny joke about this particular thread.
Everything is on topic because it’s at its base about perception and our reactions to perception.
I still have the accuser in my spirit.
Even though I’m retired, I still had that job.
Gib can handle himself. I can read his spirit.
I agree with you that it is a natural path all on its own, but trial and error is a thing in non-biological mechanisms or facets of reality as well, the error in the trial is the chaos it takes to find the order strived for. They play off of each other. Since there is no time to be perceived to an unconscious facet of reality, the trial being success is usually if not always inevitable. We perceive it taking a long time to manifest to this point of consciousness though. Which would show there would have had to be chaos linking to order.
That could be so, our unconscious/subconscious may feed our conscious mind different parts of the chain which we all lay directly on and of, different imagery, perhaps to overcome? Or to treat as a lesson? A trial of mind, to get to the next step on the staircase of consciousness…
Think of it like this. Instead of saying “you must become the change you wish to see in the world“ you say “you must become the calm you want to see in the world“.
Even calm can be considered chaos if you think all change is chaos.
And what else but something more chaotic can calm a storm? I’m no weatherman. Set me straight.
Isn’t calm just irreducible complexity? Homeostasis.
The wholeness. The first cause/mover that subsumes/overcomes/holds space for all change SO THAT we could likewise subsume toward the wholeness—because self is not other (love is not love) without demonstration.
It’s fractalicious.
I do believe we are more so agents of order than chaos, yet we can and do tap into chaos as well. War, illness and many other facets of the human condition are chaotic yet we strive to make order out of all of it.
Arbiters of order yet not outside of or always resistant to chaos, unless you have mastered direction of mind, in which you may steer how long a chaotic thought or facet of reality may pop up to you and effect things in one’s reality.
For some, such wait for a resurgence of order, especially the young, for whom immediate resolution is wanting, the result will be an empty canvas bereft of satire, but full of cynicism, and with a deadly price to pay.
They will be unable to steer a course that will lead to the objective that could beset their desire.
Someone had to pay the price back then, and that debt is still eternally uncollected.