More on Confucianism and Modernity
My last post elicited a couple of excellent responses and, instead of simply burying the exchange in the comments section, I will bring them up here for a new post.
First up is Justsomeguy, who points out:
"Well, for starters, I’m not sure that it makes sense to apply the European nationalist narrative to all nationalist narratives. Indeed, in Europe it was generally the case that a sovereign ruled over a multi-ethnic, multi-national empire through capricious situations such as marriage alliances.
I’m not sure that such an analysis can be applied to China, which unified early on and more-or-less remained unified. Back to an earlier post about critical Han studies, the Han race is about as homogeneous as the Caucasian race. That is to say, not at all. I mean, you’ve got multiple mutually unintelligible dialects and a great variety of physical traits yet they are all supposed to be the same thing?"
It is always helpful to raise this kind of question: can theories of nationalism that are generated largely upon a Western (or, at least, non-Asian) empirical basis be used to explain Chinese (or other Asian) experiences? While we must always be alert to the ways in which cultural or political bias might distort our view, I think that, in fact, we can do this. Indeed, it is done all the time, by both Westerners and Chinese. Let’s not forget that the Chinese Communist Party, and Mao Zedong himself, certainly believe that historical-materialism, which was generated based largely upon a European empirical basis (and which produced, in Marx himself, some glaringly Orientalist assertions) could indeed be useful in explaining, and shaping, Chinese experience. Much could also be the same for the contemporary purveyors of capitalist enterprises in China.
So, the problem is not inevitable or inherent but specific; that is to say, if we are constantly open to empirical challenge and accept a wide range of evidence, from a variety of cultural and political sources, then, yes, we can avoid the worst abuses of Euro-centrism.
In the case of Gellner’s theory and China, there are elements of it that are applicable. Indeed, he even recognizes this in a parenthetical comment: “Only seldom (as in the case of the Chinese bureaucracy) is it co-extensive with a state (and in that case, it did display a certain kind of nationalism.)” (16)
The “it” referred to there is the stratum of power holders, that social force which has access to state power. And he recognizes that in China, historically, the agricultural elite was well-formed and, to an extent, self-conscious of itself as possessor and reproducer of a “high culture.”
But Gellner only goes so far as a “certain kind of nationalism.” Of course, for him, nationalism has a very particular definition: “…a political principle, which holds that the political and national unit should be congruent.” (1)
In imperial China (let’s just say from the Tang on for now) the examination system created a relatively culturally homogeneous elite class - most studied the same books, read the same poetry, could refer to the same literary and historical narratives - and that class was extensively distributed across the territory effectively ruled by the centralized bureaucratic apparatus. There was a kind of congruence between the cultural and the political unit. And the high culture and the bureaucracy were very resilient and persistent historically.
But Gellner’s analysis might then lead us to say that while the identity of the Chinese cultural elite is a “certain kind of nationalism,” it is not a modern nationalism. And the primary reason for that is that it did not reach far enough down into society at large to be analogous to a modern nationalism. As justsomeguy says later in his comment, there is a great deal of cultural and linguistic diversity in imperial China. The idea of a unified “Han” ethnic identity just does not exist, not, at least, in the manner in which it is mobilized today. Indeed, it is precisely because of the persistence of many, many local cultural differentiations, below the elite level, that we might say that pre-modern Chinese identity, however homogeneous and extensive it is at the top, is not yet “national” in a modern sense.
And this brings up to another comment, by Vik:
“This seems suspiciously close to the old Eurocentric/Orientalist stereotype that the past was fixed and static (without creativity) and “modernity” somehow dynamic. I hope someone would open that up to scrutiny right off the bat. Are we really all that different now? Looking at the long arc of history?”
Again, another excellent question. And I agree that we should avoid the old, and inaccurate, notion that the pre-modern world was static. It was not. It contained its own dynamism and change. Just think about the economic transformations of the Song. But to say that imperial China was not stagnant is not say that it was as dynamic as is contemporary China. As happened virtually everywhere in the world, industrialization and capitalism brings an increasing pace of technological, economic, social, culture and political change. Everything speeds up. Thus the changes that have been happening in China since, say, the 19th century but especially in the twentieth century and onward, have brought more thoroughgoing and more rapid transformation than was generally the case in earlier imperial times.
And I think on this score Gellner is right. Once capitalism begins to spread around the globe (and I understand capitalism as a particularly powerful form of industrialization) old, and generally smaller and more restrictive, social formations are dissolved into larger and larger scale cultural units. It is in that cultural space that national identities are asserted. What distinguishes modern, national identities from pre-modern, elite cultural identities is scale. A much larger portion of the population (virtually everyone within the boundaries of the state) is drawn into literacy and participation in a common culture. And that common culture is the medium for the horizontal solidarities of Chinese national identity.
Let me finish here with one more idea from justsomeguy:
“As for roles becoming optional and instrumental, well, to bring things back to your post we can ask what Marxists think of that. They have a word for it: alienation. Pre/anti-modern communitarian paths (a la Sandel) seek to avoid that alienation and are successful at it within the class of people whose alienation is being considered (real bad track record on women’s rights, those communitarian societies). Confucianism can fit quite comfortably into that reaction to modernism. That needn’t demand that Confucianism be reactionary, though. The role of a good remonstrator is stressed in the Mencius, after all. So, Confucianism can serve that function within the context of modernity for those to whom Confucianism means something.”
I agree. To my mind the most productive (is that the right term here?) role for modern Confucians is politico-cultural critic. It may be more. It may inspire personal moments of reconnection with the “old” social roles that are the source of Humanity. And those are good and valuable moments. But I don’t think it can be transformative versus global capitalism. Small victories will have to be savored when they are possible…