need interpretation of Berkeley's "esse est percipi&quo

What exactly does Berkeley’s esse est percipi imply? Does it imply…

  1. …that the perception is the perceived?

or

  1. …that the perception is codependent on the perceived?

So 2) means that the perception and the perceived are still two distinct things, but you just can’t have one without the other.

to be is to be perceived

if you can’t see it, it doesn’t exist

this also was an attempt by the bishop to prove the existence of god…

why doesn’t the world change/blink into non existence when you aren’t perceiving it? because god is watching your every little move…

perceiving god on the other hand…

-Imp

But the distinction - is there still a distinction between the perception and the perceived, or are they one entity?

that is, in essence, a metaphysical question…

all that exists, at least as far as one can be aware, is impressions…

the perception of the thing and the thing itself are seperate things…

there is what you perceive- all you have access to are the perceptions…

whether you choose to believe in the external existence of that which you perceive is of course, your option… but it is never more than a belief… it is an extention beyond what is actually in the scope of the mind (the impressions themseleves)

solipisim 101…

-Imp

Hmmm… So then maybe we can say this: There is a distinction - the perception is the perception and the perceived is the idea. That is, the notion that there is a real thing with its own ontology can be nothing more than the idea of the thing. Berkeley should agree with that, no?

“George Berkeley … is best known for his motto, esse is percipi, to be is to be perceived. He was an idealist: everything that exists is either a mind or depends for its existence upon a mind. He was an immaterialist: matter does not exist. He accepted the seemingly outrageous position that ordinary physical objects are composed solely of ideas, which are inherently mental.”

iep.utm.edu/b/berkeley.htm

-Imp

Thanks Imp,

The picture’s pretty clear to me now.