New Economic Ideas?

How much exploration has been done into companies directly injecting a percentage of their profits into the populous? It seems that too many institutions consider themselves as a different entity, yet the populous is what makes them up. I propose that a percentage of a companies profit go directly into a fund that is used to raise the minimum wage to an actually livable level.

It only seems right that if we want people to work all these jobs to provide the services we have all become accustomed to, that they in turn are paid a livable wage. No matter how easy we may think the job is, it still has to be done by someone.

More specifically, we can consider the scenario in which all the tax cuts given to large companies were put in this fund instead of the companies pocket. I am interested to hear some of the economic ramifications of such a proposal.

There are some (particularly leftists) who think that the best way to solve a problem is to throw money or legislation at it, but what they often fail to see is that when you’re solving economic problems in such a simplistic way, there are going to be unintended negative side-effects. This is a prime example.

Raise minimum wage, decrease employment. So sure, you solved one problem but you made another problem worse.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking it’s all so simple. If you come up with a solution to the world’s problems that a 5 year old would have thought up (like “just pay everyone more money”), put your brain to the test and figure out what might be wrong with that solution. Chances are, even if you can’t find it, someone else can.

This week I shall be playing JLW AKA The Joker.

You’re all going to die, there is no solution, buy a shotgun and start praying.

<insert rant about the man, etc here>

Try a Ford quote:

“Make the best goods possible for the least money possible, paying the highest wages possible.”

Something like that.

Now some Uber capitalists AKA idiots might be saying why not pay the least possible wages, and the answer is because everyone will fuck off to the competition or China given half the chance. Ford new the score.

I agree there is always going to be negative side-effects to ideas, too many variables. I’m looking to debate on the complex issues that would arise from such an idea.

This is the most obvious issue that arises when you talk about raising minimum wage. Think of this problem but in a situation were profits make up the difference in the rise of minimum wage. What issues would we be facing and why?

The idea is to debate on what is wrong with the solution but through an analytic approach. For such simplistic solutions it should be quiet easy to bring out the pitfalls of this approach using actual data.

There are no solutions, end of story.


Information Creates Problems

The Information is the Problem, Creates Problems. If you don’t know anything, everything is fine, you don’t have anything to compare to, but if you have information you start comparing things, and wanting more or different or seeing the relationships you otherwise were oblivious to and such. So information create instability, desires, tasks and goals and conflicts and desire to change and modify and act and fight or anything else based on the new information, the new facts or events that you now know and receive (and you now know who is winning and gaining and who is losing and such, who is the winner or who has the upper hand and you want them to not have the upper hand anymore and such). But in the end, you just have ever more problems, ever more failed goals, ever more frustrated desires or you take sides on ever more affairs (and issues, political issues and such, and thinking about, getting mad and angry and such and trying to figure out how “to solve the problems the new information set up in your mind” as the information generates thoughts and work for your mind (the Information Generates our Work, Generates Work and such), ever more work and problems and anger and debates and conflicts, the whole bag of crap and such) hoping your side wins and such, ever more fights ever more anything, when you were fine before you got the information and such. And in fact the “Information Economy” should more correctly be called the “Problem Economy” as ever more new problems, desires, goals and task are generated by ever new information, ever more changes, as information provokes changes, and choices and fights and so on.

But it is said that some information maybe avoid future pain if you know something, if you avoid something and such, but in the end it is always vain, you will end up in pain or defeated always by something else and such, there is the law of conservation of pain, or problems, nay, even the law of conservation of information in that more information is just the old information dressed up with a different dress and provoking the same old ever new problems, goals, tasks or whatever (the new information is just a new instance of the same basic Information Relationship all information has, a one bit universe, A against B, A different from B, convert A to B, set the target B starting from A and execute the steps to reach B and such). For example you know that a road is dangerous to travel you avoid it, but by traveling the new road you end up randomly getting a flat tire but you try to change the tire and then another car runs you over: if you traveled the old road you wouldn’t have gone to the hospital and such: but of course the entire idea of predicting and guessing the right events that you will be subject to is impossible because the events don’t exist until they occur and since not even god, history or the laws of physics know the next state of the entire system of Matter - Mass energy the entire universe will transit to, the entire idea of avoiding pain is a falied goal, a failed endeavor. Of course you can try to avoid the most obvious mistakes, but even in that case, you never know and such.

Hence we must get rid of all information, kill information, we don’t need to know anything, the less we know the better off we are and such. The less we know the more advanced we are, the more we know in a sense, the more we have won and have achieved and such, and in fact totally dead items don’t know anything and are totally stable and satisfied.


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Author Profile Page 8man | March 28, 2012 6:36 AM | Reply

And g0od old:



The Deception of Progress

As a corollary of the “Information is Equal to Problems”, “Information is Equal to New Problems” therefore we do not need any further information on anything: “The Biggest Lie in History has Been the Lie Of Progress”.

The idea of progress, of “going forward”, of “getting better”, of “Improving” of “Scientific Progress”, of “Overcoming Problems and Achieving a Result” and stuff is the biggest lie in history, is not true, is essentially impossible and so forth. And why ? because there is the law of conservation of problems, and similar laws of conservation of conflicts, of pain, of problems, of fights of you name it. And why is this ? because the Man Brain is an old contraption that works according to a one bit universe, a one transistor circuit based on the Identity Principle and Non Contradiction and constant conflicts with itself and with other Man Brains as in you say A and I say B (or NOT A), you want something and I want the same therefore Resource Contention and such. And fights and conflicts.

Because even if you do obtain some result and progress, it will always be short lived, it will only last up to a certain moment and then get destroyed or disappear or something else will come by and make you lose and such. Of course just as you can assign and define the idea that Information is the Problem, so you can assign the opposite that No (or less) Information is the Problem, and strive to achieve more information and such: either way, it is a variable, something assigned for no reason at all, just because, another one of those arbitrary assignments the Man Brain makes pretending that is has any value or is related to anything absolute, but if there are no absolutes, then nothing at all matters or even exists and such).

The greatest state of Existence is Death, Pure Death, Nothing at All, No Existence, No Information, No Goals or Tasks, No Identity Principle and Non Contradictions, Pure Oblivion, Pure Nothing as Nothing Forever, as in Please Give Us Back our Nothing Forever, our Pure Nothing Forever and such (but as a corollary if Death is the number 7 and life the number 8, then there is a number 3 and - 45 and 4,788 and such where each one is a more extreme state of the corresponding state of Existence on the scale of Existence Types and such). So as such a Baby doesn’t Progress and go forward with time, doesn’t evolve, but goes backwards, goes from the maximum state of not knowing and Innocence to the hard coded piece of turd that it will become as the years go by and create ever new constraints, memories, rules and laws, and social conventions and all else since each new knowledge and precision gained is actually detrimental, is the baby going backward, becoming ever more primitive compared to the maximum state of Innocence and Oblivion and Possibility that it is when starting out. We start out life at the maximum level of achievement and evolution and progress possible and gradually keep on going backwards, ever more backwards until we become this huge hard wired turd of the stable and static and typical Man Brain.

Another interesting thing is the “common world” as all Man Brains share this common world, this mirror image of a world where all items exchange and relate to and communicate to express that they are all living in this “common reference system” and what happens to one Man brain is equivalent to what happens to another and such, so strangely intimate as information and the common world make all Man Brains belong to One only, but at the same time so divided and conflictual and such.

We must change the design of Man Brains, shove in new Microprocessors with new programs, new circuits, new Chemicals, New signals, new block diagrams of new possible designs of Minds and Mindforms and Man Brainforms (notice how contradictory I am, as the whole idea of New is based on Progress and Better, as going forward and such, but I thrive on contradiction, contradiction is a sign of Progress and a sign of a deeper and more valuable thoughtform), connect the wires in the most radical fashion, connect all the information subsystems in the most colorful ways, total information disjunction from itself, you can do it man, trillions of new block diagrams where everything is new and changes, new emotion structures, new thought machines and memory patterns, new universes and virtual simulations (as the world is all a simulation since our sense organs only receive electrical signals that are then converted into a worldform, but these signals can be converted and formatted into any other worldform, any other meaning and universe and such).

What is this “New” (what a joke the word “New” is) Mindform experiencing ?

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All contradictions are welcome, all attacks are welcome.


One cannot reform state capitalism to make it anything other than a Darwinist, labour-slavery system of exploitation. One can fuck about with minimum wage, tax ratios and the rest as much as one like, it doesn’t solve the fundamental problems of the system (or the conspiracies making use of the system).

Basically, the notion that there isn’t enough money, and so we all need to fuck each other over and fight for the limited amount of money in existence, is the most basic problem. We create money as debt, so the only way to make people richer is to make them more indebted.

Enabling everyone to issue their own credit (individually and/or collectively), debt-free, to serve as a medium of exchange is the only solution to the mass unemployment, ever-increasing indebtedness and environmental destruction (and genocide) that results from state capitalism.

Infusing logic into the average world citizen will never work.
Just put your blinders on and go full speed ahead until you run out of gas or road unto cataclysmic annihilation. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :character-yoshi: :scared-yipes:


They do this already - by employing people and giving them a salary.

Companies become less profitable. Companies raise there prices on products to balance the books.

Everyone earns more money, but everything also costs more money because companies have raised their prices.

American companies become globally less competitive, because other countries with lower minimum wage rates can provide goods and services for much lower overheads. Exports are more expensive and so export rates also fall even further. Domestically sold American made products are more expensive than imported products, so domestic market is affected too (nationalism of consumers and protectionist trade policies may help balance things, but of these carry risks).

More large American companies are forced in to closing, fewer Americans have jobs.