New theory of quantum world

As explained and exemplified before, RM addresses every endeavor. It doesn’t matter what the goal might be. If it is logically possible, RM yields the exact equation required to accomplish it. All that is required is the data of the current situation. “Understanding” is an understatement.

Society is creating every problem that society currently has with many more on the way. There is nothing actually natural in the world today. There is the effort to prevent Man from becoming a god and the effort to cause Man to become a god. The result is that Homosapian shall become extinct, replaced by a form of life, not so unwise.

James,

You wrote:

What are the ways society is preventing Man from becoming a god? I am wondering if the lack of philosophy in physics is one of them (hence the quantum mechanics problems of explanations that don’t make sense.) Any others?

Eugene Morrow

Sometimes you ask a question that just sends a flood of thoughts into my mind. There are so many things I could say about that, I don’t know where to even begin. It is good that you only ask one a day. That gives me time to clear the flood and reduce my comment back to just a few highlights.

Basically everything around you is involved in the effort to prevent Man from becoming a god; entertainment, pseudo-science, politics, medicines, diseases, you name it. It is a replay of Moses and the Pharaoh. But this time, something new occurred, “The Matrix”.

If you never watched the film The Matrix, you should. If you have seen it, you should watch it again with a little more insight as to what they are actually talking about and doing to the audience. It is a story about the Zionists (and actual real group running Israel and the US) fighting to free people from an artificial mechanized mindset constructed by “The Architect”, presumably the Architect of the Masons.

In the film, the Zionists confess that they started the war and caused the darkness that has covered the world (the confusion and chaos). The idea was that without the “light of the Sun” (truth and clarity), the machines would not be able to function. This was what Moses did in Egypt (“God in the form of a cloud”). But to their surprise, the “machines” figured out a means to “use people as a source of energy” and keep themselves going. The machines arranged to get control over peoples perception, hence “The Perception Matrix”. Those people live out their lives in a fantasy world wherein they believe it is the year 2012 (for example) when in reality Science has progressed far beyond that era. Public Science is far, far behind the more hidden military and secretive science.

The point is that the entire world is the dichotomy of those two entities struggling with each other. The “good guy” Zionists (notably killing far more people) are trying to free people from the tricky machines that have everyone programmed into an illusion. That illusion is what you see as the real world around you right now. Nothing around you is truly what it seems (although not talking about mundane items like your shoe or the desk, but more about the state of world politics, science, philosophy, and so on).

And yes, Physics and science in general came under severe attack during the 1960’s. The 1970’s became the era of chaos worship (the darkening of the skies). During that time all things were to be questioned regardless of how obvious they seem to be. All things were to be changed regardless of the sanity involved.

In an effort to maintain the structure of Science it had to become defensive and learn how religions work. They work by arranging believable ontological paradigms. Thus Science got out of the business of revealing truth and into the business of maintaining belief - a religion. And yes, that is why QM is what it is today - pseudo-science.

The bad thing is that neither side of this war wants the general population to know any actual truth. You can’t maintain control (for whatever reason) if people are not dependent upon you. When you have two armies, neither side cares who is right or wrong about anything. They are each trying anything to ensure that their side wins at any cost.

Your TEW, if it ever became of any influence at all, would be obliterated merely because it wasn’t on either side of the warring armies. My RM is very similar. You merely become a target by gaining influence. If your words appear to help either cause, your words will gain influence and spread across the world (“angels gaining their wings”). But for that to happen, your words must be either aimed towards creating chaos and confusion or toward manipulating people into passivity. But in either case, there is always the other side trying to manipulate affairs against your words. Look at almost any thread on any forum and you can see it quite easily.

Again, this site is a typical example of that war. No one cares what is true, only what isn’t on their side. They are almost all merely attack drones seeking anything to attack. You have been given grace while you are here… by a specific means (and you’re welcome). But if you go posting on the other forums here and keep bring up TEW, soon not only will TEW be getting shot down, but so will you as a person. The world is mostly controlled through reputation. That is why you witnessed Helandhighwater attacking me in a way addressing reputation, “he is lying”, “he is stealing”, “he is delusional”, and so on. That guy is a “Harpy” using the Greek terminology, or “dog” using the Muslim, or “pestilence” using the Jewish. The problem is that sites are inundated with such people and they don’t even know why they are doing it, nor do they care. Regardless of anything said, they will return for more attack - anything that works to create lack of influence - reduce everyone else so that you can be on top. HelandHighwater will return and do the same thing again. He isn’t the one controlling himself.

But back to RM. RM is specifically about understanding the “noise”, the chaos that is within all things that forms the contention that forms the order. Thus all of these people fall into the understanding of RM, as well as the entire war against intelligence. RM knows all of the weapons, potential or actual. As it was said, “Heaven contains the most Hellacious weapons of all”.

The Matrix has you” means that you have a typically programmed worldview that isn’t real at all. “Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see”. Unfortunately that is the true reality of the insanity of homosapian.

Related from a different recent thread;

Doubt and Discomfort are the “Devil’s” horns.
Yeshua” literally means the “spirit of agreement”.

How much agreement with truth do you see in the world today?

James,

You wrote:

and later:

The two armies would be Public Science and the secret military science? I see them as very close. The military may have more toys than we know of - perhaps better drones and satellites and perhaps some engineered viruses and so on, but I don’t see them as having any better knowledge of physics than Public Science. The only pure science I have heard of the military researching is cold fusion - kept secret mainly out of embarrassment. I believe that the cold fusion effect was a minor surface catalytic effect and not the true nuclear fusion as hoped. So the military appear limited in their commitment to pure science research. I see them both as one big army - the established quantum mechanics (qm) bandwagon.

This forum has been by far the most tolerant of the Theory of Elementary Waves (TEW) and I am grateful. It’s also true that the only supportive voice - Fixed Cross - was here. I mainly think that is because philosophers are more cautious about physics (they don’t want to argue about maths) and have sensed the nasty reactions to anyone who dares challenge qm.

On the physics forums, some were very hostile and terminated my thread, and the others have been mainly mocking or just plain skeptical. I can cope.

You surprised me with your final comments:

Surely doubt is a good thing for philosophers - this is where we get to explore alternatives and think. Agreement can sometimes cause complacency. There will always be disagreement - that is healthy. What counts is whether the disagreement is constructive or destructive.

Eugene Morrow

No. Public Science is the distraction. It allows for people to have a sense of reality that is controllable while the secretive groups watch for anything to add to their own science. Over the years, their science exponentially grows while the public sees only minor progress. This allows for grand dominance.

Of course, that is what you are supposed to believe. But think about this… You just said that you “see them as…”. You see the hidden? Really? Would it be hidden if you could see it? And if you can’t see it, then how could you possibly gauge how big it is?

Realize that your mind is like a particle. It has an entropic shell that gives it coherence and stability. Your mind will always seek a sense of reality and also it will be given one. Without that sense of reality, whether real or not, you could have no mind. Just like a particle, it will either disperse or migrate toward whatever thought is more stable.

Mind altering and interrogation techniques use that very principle to get people to reveal secrets and/or turn their devotions. I had mentioned Mutcer and other “drones” that are common on this site. Using RM, I could not only change Mutcers programming, even reverse it. I could cause him to become a Bible thumping fundamentalist or could cause any Christian to become a hardened atheist drone.

The principle involves shifting that entropic shell in a favorable direction, and sometimes even removing it entirely, causing an almost comatose state similar to deep hypnosis wherein almost any influence could be given without resistance and then sealed such as to cause that person to absolutely adhere to his new programming - a drone of a different color. On our Social forum here, there is a character “Bill Willtrack”. He promotes Organized Labor as his religion. At the same time, he professes to hate Communism. Obviously he doesn’t realize (and will deny) that Communism IS Organized Labor. He will drone on… and on… and on, promoting what he himself hates.

Isaac Asimov’s The Foundation is based upon these concerns.

Of course your question would then be, “then why don’t you?” And as I said before, I very well know how to sell RM if that is what I was after, but it isn’t. I am not seeking “supporters” as you are. Also realize that if I were, I could just as easily, if not more so, shift your devotion to RM from anything it had been.

Those are the concerns of the world. Too many people know how to cause allegiance without the subjects even knowing that it happened. The CIA, DHS, NSA, Priests, Rabbis, and many other cults know basically how to do it. But there is the rub. They are not looking for the error within themselves, the pre-programming that was already embedded within them. Instead they are satisfied very actively trying to use techniques on everyone else, “blind leading/programming the blind”.

That is the world’s game. That is what is causing the mess that the world is in and the actual threat to homosapian as a species. You are, in a small way, merely doing the same. You want to sell something that you feel devoted to. You already know that it isn’t actually truth, but that doesn’t stop you. Why wouldn’t it?

If you challenge your mindset and devotion, your mind will come up with all kinds of rationalizations for continuing and holding onto its sense of being stable with a perceived grasp of reality. You could not get it to stop doing that. Buddhists try for their entire lives just to accomplish that mode, not really knowing what to do with it next. They emphasize removing the “self”. That self is that entropic shell that keeps their mind firm and coherent. The idea is that if you can remove that shell without being disturbed otherwise (impossible in the West), your mind would reform as more of a giant photon rather than a small particle. The mind would be much faster and take in far more observational data before concluding anything. It is the opposite state of the Attention Deficit Disorder, ADD (or ADHD, depending).

But even the accomplished Buddhist must still form that almost invisible entropic shell that even photons have. They don’t realize it just as physicists don’t realize it nor that photons actually do have mass. It is so very light, that for all practical purposes it isn’t there. But without it, there would be no mind, nor photons, nor particles, nor stubborn devotees.

The problem is that you cannot discern when it is being constructive or destructive. To do that you have to have a goal. What is your goal again - to sell your product. Is it all that good to spread doubt when your only goal is merely to sell a product? What constitutes “constructive” vs “destructive” other than merely allegiance or dissension? When does Truth get into the picture? The truth is that it doesn’t until it breaks your paradigm forcibly and destroys all you invested into it. Else you wouldn’t be trying to gain supporters for something that you already know isn’t really right. Your excuse that it is “better” is hollow, because frankly it is better for them if they do not resist the “evil man” and go with the flow. Is it better to die in resistance of something they cannot stop or to die achieving something that must be stopped later?

James,

I’m still confused on what the two armies are. Two posts ago you wrote:

Also, I want to compare two of your comments. The first is this:

The second comment is this:

In the second comment, we are being dominated by some secretive groups that are only showing minor progress to the public. That means we are “drones” who totally agree with the given truth. Yet you complained there was not enough “agreement” in the first comment.

If we are really being manipulated, then doubt and discomfort might be our logical selves waking up and realising that we’ve been tricked. So you could argue that we need doubt and discomfort to help us think independently again. I don’t agree that doubt and discomfort are the “Devil’s” horns.

You and I both agree that quantum mechanics (qm) makes no sense. Now you seem to be saying that qm is just a cover story for the masses. Do the secretive groups have anything better than qm?

Eugene Morrow

A) How much sense does it make for a military to openly display what weapon advancements they have? Ever heard the phrase, “showing all of your cards”? To have even a chance, one must have a hidden “hold card”.

B) But note that in the first comment, I asked “how much agreement with the truth do you see?
They don’t even know what the truth is. How could they be agreeing to it when they can’t (quite intentionally) see it. It must be hidden for sake of military advantage if nothing else. But any capitalist worth his salt is certainly not going to display his means for financial control. That would just make him a sitting duck.

Note that they have promoted that the Highest priority of a leader is to maintain his leadership position. Is that really the Highest? But whether it is or not, how is he to maintain it if he allows everyone else to be equally as strong as he?

“Might be”… might be your theory.
But there is a difference between what “might be” and “what is”.
You know that feeling of “boredom” that so many people experience?
That is coming to them medically, not psychologically. And yes, it frees them from something. It frees them from self-control. Ever heard the phrase, “Idle hands are the Devil’s tools”? - same thing - indecision as to what to do and discomfort with doing nothing. For every right thing to choose, there are at least 100 wrong things to choose, that’s their ADHD/Bi-polar brains can’t discern. Decrease the inner Signal to Noise ratio (that inner anxiety and buzzing deep inside) so that no one can see the signal (the truth) even within themselves, much less have time to attend to what is going on around them and above them.

You would be wrong about that.
You are now discussing and concluding in an arena in which you have extremely little knowledge.
And even tough you know that you know very little about such social strategies, you feel free to make assertions of certainty.
The very seed of Sin is “Presumption”.

“What is the sound of one hand clapping”?
Ever heard that one?
It was a message that there must be disagreement between the right and left so as to grasp something/one in the middle.
It was the message to be both the criminal and also the police so as to have total control over all things.

What secretive groups have is always something other than what they promote. That should be pretty obvious. And why promote anything at all if you don’t have something better to protect by keeping others confused (arguing) and bemused (seeking entertainments)? If no one argued about QM, it wouldn’t really serve its purpose.

Of course they have something better. Do you seriously think that a group like NASA would try to put a man on Mars (for example) using some technology that even you and I can see through? Give people a little credit, apes though they may be.

If DHS told everyone exactly what they were doing and how they were doing it (with what technology and where), don’t you think they just might be a little less “secure”?

Your society is very much like an iceberg. The part you see is very little of what is actually there and you don’t even see all of that one-third above the water, but merely the surface. And they call it “the dark side” for a reason.

Our two threads have become parallel, so for a while, I will be posting only on this one unless our focus changes.

The quote from a thread concerning the Fall of the USA actually reflects a similar kind of concern as the OP;

Quantum Mechanics was and is still an effort at a Theory of Everything (a World Religion) with intentional flaws. Even Einstein said that he didn’t like what they were doing to Science. He and Schrodinger knew full well that the explanations being given were bogus. Most of the theories involved have been proven wrong by a variety of means.

RM proves what is necessarily right (well, to the logic adherent). RM is what they were looking for and perhaps found 200 years ago. But I can see that they didn’t study it far enough before they began using what they knew. Such is the historical trait of homosapian. And one of the things they used was to ensure the supremacy of one group by keeping another group completely hidden and more advanced, the upper portion of that famous pyramid, isolated from the masses.

James,

I’m still confused on what the two armies are. Three posts ago you wrote:

Eugene Morrow

And four posts ago, I wrote that they are those who attempt to make Man into a god and those who oppose such an endeavor. Beyond that description, I might as well be talking about some foreign planet. Your knowledge of the underside, the dark side, of humanity is extremely limited.

In a sense, they are those who adhere to logic and rationality versus those of passionate presumption. But by that, I don’t mean to infer that logic and rationality are a fixed set. Very often those who understand logic very well, have no true comprehension of rationality. I imagine the reverse is probably true too, just not as common.

In yet another sense, a very misleading sense, I am referring to those who think of themselves as “the men of God” and “the men of Satan” or sometimes, “The Sons of Light” and “The Sons of Darkness”. The reason that such is misleading is that quite often they play the opposite roles as their titles would suggest (as is all too common in society). Lucifer brings an inappropriate light. Godly men often attempt to hide inappropriate light. Of course the real issue is knowing appropriate from inappropriate. And for that (as the other thread indicates) one must have a very clear and non-presumptuous understanding of the rational goal, the very “purpose of life”, the thing that none of them seem to be able to gain clear grasp.

Personally, I don’t squarely fit on anyone’s map. I am that paradoxical anomaly and enigma, who is on all sides and none at the same time, sort of the Neo without all of the superpowers or attitude.

But my point was that most of what is going on around you is the mix of those trying to persuade and/or confuse. Persuasion is most often achieved in mass via confusion and a sense of urgency - “Doubt and Discomfort”. Thus people (in general) can’t stand to do nothing and also can’t get any bearing as to what makes sense. They get persuaded because they can’t hold their bearings beyond whatever they were pre-programmed into. Thus they don’t learn, they merely wave other people’s flags, quite often having no idea of what the flag really represents or leads to for them or anyone else.

An example would be QM.

You and very many people think that Quantum Mechanics is all about physics. Guess what. It really never was. And obviously still isn’t although the attempt was made to make it into a physics theory. But trying to get you to see that little bit of truth would take a whole lot of effort on my part and be a long time in being fruitful. Note that I generally refer to QM as “Quantum Mysticism” and refer to the “Quantum Magi”. I am not being merely sarcastic. QM was originally proposed as the new-age “Philosopher’s Stone” and construction paradigm of the Brave New World Odor. It is actually Quantum Mentalism, their early efforts at RM that led them into proposing a false but parallel, virtual reality mindset for the masses. It is also called the “New Moon” by the Arab nations and various cults.

During times of societal darkness, intentional or not, a “Moon” is created as something that somewhat reflects the true Sun, but much more dim. The idea is to not let things get too damn dark such that truly all things are killed off and forgotten, merely most of them. In a sense, it is a time for homosapian to sleep, unconscious of himself and in a dream state, fantasizing about hopes and threats that are actually being perpetrated by a subconscious, unseen, hidden false flag instigator of “wars and rumors of wars”.

As I said, the “underside” is much, much larger and more complex than what you ever see going on the surface. The Matrix film pretty much tells a large part of the concept. Just don’t think that you know the good guys from the bad guys just because the film makers led you in that direction.

James,

I still don’t understand this very well. I guess there’s more to your comment about armies than I can imagine at the moment. I am wondering if the two armies are the regular army and a secret techno army.

You are definitely hinting that quantum mechanics (qm) was just a cover story. How do you know? Have you found hints of better understanding that is being kept secret? You are definitely hinting there are military secrets that are based on better science than the masses know. I am guessing that the military have not discovered Rational Metaphysics (RM), because you are concerned that revealing RM will provide more weapons and no understanding. Does RM give you an idea of what weapons the military may have without understanding what they have found?

I have heard of laser weapons that blind the enemy - a very cheap and effective weapon for disrupting the enemy. If that could be delivered by drones it would be devastating. I certainly don’t want to be part of a war - now or in the future.

Eugene Morrow

When Jesus brought sight to the blind, what was the first thing he said to the man? - “Don’t tell anyone.” But of course, the man being so very easily fooled, went straight to what he thought were the good guys and told them. From that moment on, Jesus was a target.

To openly discuss such a huge field of secretive dealings to the point where the blind man can see them clearly, is to bring not only curse upon the one revealing, but also to the one unblinded. And many of the very many types of secretive cursings persist for generations. Today they lead to extinction of the entire family. If you were a logic adherent, it wouldn’t be quite so bad, but being a salesman, you could not survive such cursings.

Today high tech devices are added to the effectiveness of such means to control society. Today, for example, DHS has an army of 800,000 armed members doing everything they can possibly think of to know all secrets of all peoples and locate, see, and listen to every one of them. They are fully engaged in the dark side, the black magic of hidden manipulation. They use every technology; physical, psychological, and physiological to not merely know what is where, but to control it. And often to simply make it disappear. But they are only one of very, very many playing the same game, a chess game of liars not always knowing that they are lying, spies often not knowing that they are spying, thieves often not knowing that they are thieving, and killing often not knowing that they are killing. The game is about using pawns, using the naive who don’t know just how naive they are, taking advantage of the ignorance of others (and thus depending on them staying ignorant and confused).

But the real problem isn’t so much what they are trying to do as much as the fact they are presumptuous. Presumption is the very seed of Sin or “error in judgment”. It causes the blind leading the blind into blinding even more and loving it. Thus Christianity, notably against such cross-blind judging, is on the downswing, a target for the same reasons being applied 2000 years ago, merely more technologically advanced.

You could think of people in terms of the presumptuous (99.99% of the populous) and the logical adherents, those who refuse to presume and thus avoid being a puppet to whispers and hidden signs and signals concerning the reputation of others, black lists and such.

Note that I was insisting that you not presume concerning the premises of RM in any direction, either for or against, but merely follow the logic.I ask if you could agree before we continue. And that I said that we could not continue if you could not do so. Whether I was guilty of presumption or you were, by us continuing, presumption would be encouraged. I am not interested in feeding presumption even more than it is already.

Physically technological weapons, as nasty as they are, are not actually the more serious problem. RM provides far more than merely new physical weaponry. But discussing the details is discussing the methods, many of which are currently in use.

Without logic, rationality cannot be identified and presumption reigns. Even with logic, rationality is a bit difficult to prove to most minds. And without rationality, there is no actual hope. The idea of selling a product is a bit pointless. So with RM, it is logical progress and agreement or no progress and no hard feelings.

I am currently considering a logic model of all society using RM as a base. I’m not sure where that will lead, but it seems like a good place to possibly display rationality before presumption has a chance to take over.

And it seems that yet another thread is possibly merging with this subject in the Academy forum… Consciousness: Remote Recognition.

James,

I think I’ve asked some questions that you think are best left unanswered, because of unintended side-effects of the answers. Fair enough.

I have a different question. How dangerous do you think current society and the military are both in terms of physics and control of society? They don’t have the advantages that you claim for Rational Metaphysics (RM) , so how much of a concern are they? Do you see much of a chance that RM will be developed by someone else (either in physics or mind issues)? Will RM give you much of an advantage if things get dangerous for you personally?

I am not a US citizen and don’t live in the US, yet I am aware that the DHS could be a very powerful body for snooping on US citizens in the name of security. You have mentioned DHS a few times before - are they are particular worry?

Eugene Morrow

Another good film to watch if you haven’t, “The Time Machine” (old or new). “We don’t speak of them.” “Those who go there looking, don’t come back.” “It is just the way it is.”

Fatal. (Which is why I am here. You don’t really think that Noah was the only person God made that suggestion to, do you. The word “noah” has a very specific meaning in Hebrew)

RM basically answers the questions that Science doesn’t. It specializes in “Why?” and “How?”. Science is more into “How much?”, “Where?”, “When?”. The “Who?” and “What?” get somewhat distributed throughout varied fields of study and influence.

One of the “Why?” questions that RM answers ahead of time is “Why did homosapian become extinct?” Alternately, “Why did homosapian live when all odds were against it?” The dinosaurs didn’t leave such records behind.

As the other thread was pointing out, they have come “close enough” without being there, the most dangerous place to be. And being dangerous is what they lust to be.

Most definitely… by the life that replaces homosapian. RM is the future of understanding, in effect replacing Science (assuming Science doesn’t merely adopt the principles under their newly chosen names). How much of a future, is another question.

Oh, about as much as it would help that guy trying to explain physics in the Roman pub. How much did such things help Lao Tzu, Socrates, Aristotle, Galileo, and the like? Realize that you only know their names (and probably not their real names) because someone recorded/published what they had said and long after they were dead found them to be of sociopolitical use. Such things are really more for a team event. Of course now, people face the far more serious effort to destroy any and all non-compliant publications than ever before in history.

No more so than the Morlocks were to the Eloi.

But now (not to change the subject), I have a question for you. See that first line of my signature?

Clarify, Verify, and Instill the Perception of Hopes and Threats that Optimize the Momentum of Inclusive Self-Harmony.

Clarify: make easier to discern and understand, explain. Something you find yourself doing concerning TEW and probably many things throughout life.

Verify: cross check the validity and accuracy. The very purpose of Science and of having 3 eyes. But something only more advanced sentient beings do.

Instill: Remember, document, make habitual. Something that most people take for granted, but seriously should never be ignored. One of the most important things anyone has ever done.

Perception of Hopes and Threats: Personal Value Ontology, what seems to be important regarding help or hindrance, threat or opportunity, what counts. PHT is the guide of ALL living creatures. The most fundamental basis for all psychology (included in RM).

Optimized Momentum: staying or continuing power involving amount and veracity strategically maximized for the current situation (“optimum”).

Inclusive Self-Harmony: construct and dynamic of the self and local surrounding. Nothing can perish until it loses the harmony within and even that can’t be lost if surrounded by harmony.

Believe it or not, that one sentence speaks of the very “spirit” that has been your life at its deepest level and is what has kept you alive despite all else you have attempted to do (except perhaps that ‘verify’ part, not very common among homosapian). It is the “Quantum” that is you. Nothing can die and still have that spirit within.

The question: Can you understand the sentence and grasp the importance of that understanding (considering with great, great care what we have been talking about)?

James,

I dare not say that I understand and fully grasp that sentence, because I’m sure you’ll point out where I don’t ! :smiley:

I do like the concise wisdom in that sentence. To me, we have been discussing using those ideas, and the part that I think needs underlining is the “Perceptions of Hopes and Threats”. Ideas themselves can be seen as threats to society, and that is why both the Theory of Elementary Waves (TEW) and Rational Metaphysics (RM) have had such a hard time to be merely debated.

Because TEW and RM do not fit in with the established ideas of quantum mechanics (qm) and other ideas, there is an immediately feeling of danger and threat communicated to many people. Yet TEW and RM are only ideas to be considered. If qm really was superior, it should be easy to point out why, and any debate should be regarded as a healthy way to remind ourselves why the established ideas are so good. Yet even considering a different approach in physics is so mentally threatening, it is hard to find anyone who even wants to ask a question, let alone debate a point. Merely questioning qm is regarded as “unscientific”.

That is not a picture of Self-Harmony in physics, and RM suggests the problem applies to a lot more. Physics like to believe it is based on rational thought and evidence, and yet physics behaves like someone cornered. I think the behavior strongly suggests that underneath there is a creeping feeling of discomfort about all the magic of qm (multiple universes, effects backwards in time and so on). Underneath, the sub-conscious minds in the physics world are quietly whispering that there is a problem, and the conscious minds are determined not to listen.

It’s those conscious minds, with their lusts, that I think are your concern in revealing RM. I think we share a common ground that physics is not as settled and rational as is claimed.

It’s not a message that is likely to be popular. I remain optimistic that at some point new ideas like TEW or RM will come to the surface of awareness and the qm bubble will collapse. Perhaps I’m a bit naive on that point. We’ll see.

Eugene Morrow

You got it. The rest of my message to you is that what you believe that “they” believe is not really what they believe, but rather what they want the masses to believe and they are really good and experienced at ensuring it.

According to RM, that momentum is the quintessential element in continuance or survival. Momentum involves two fundamental components; amount and veracity, or in physics, “mass and velocity”.

You represent a bit of the momentum of the thought of TEW. Your willingness to stick to it is the “mass” involved and your willingness to communicate it is the “velocity” involved. The more people who are believing it and the faster they can communicate determines its “momentum” throughout society.

With RM, because my concerns are of a little different nature, if I did as you do and communicate it as fast as possible and get as many people as possible to believe it, I would be competing just as so many do today. The “momentum” of RM would increase over what I currently do. Or would it?

If someone hears you speak of TEW, saying all the nice things they like to hear, they might be willing to “vote” in your favor. But what if they didn’t actually understand TEW and had the wrong impression? In one sense, it wouldn’t matter because the volume or mass of people thinking that it was good would outweigh the fact that they were actually supporting something different than they thought. A great deal of advertising and propaganda works that way. Freedom fighters very often promote communism without even realizing that is what they are doing, for example. And for a common theory concerning physics, no big deal. With governing policies, such things are far more critical and insidious.

But now look at what RM actually represents and what happens if something close to RM but not really RM gets promoted and “voted into station”. RM becomes a very serious world religion that happens to not really be RM, but some slightly broken form being used to create a power that effectively could not be stopped (not a whole lot different than what is happening right now across the world). What do you do then?

By using the real RM to fight the fake or misunderstood RM, eventually you might get things back in order, maybe. But look again at what RM is saying, “momentum is what determines survival”. The fact that the fake RM is not as solidly founded as the real RM accounts for some weakness, but the fact that 5-6 billion people like the fake RM and don’t even know why, accounts for a whole lot more than the very few who actually understood the real RM. Most likely those few supporting the real RM would merely be killed off by the new religious fanatics… end of story.

So what I am saying is that it is better for the world to be very wrong than to slightly corrupt what is absolutely right. That is an old concern, literally thousands of years. And thus what is intentionally wrong is promoted so as to keep the masses from annihilating the “holy”. In that way, some day, when the “holy” have enough momentum of their own, they can then step into action and present the real deal. And that is what has been the plan behind the world of Man for thousands of years, “God will come from within the clouds. Out as a Lamb and in as a Lion.

But note that I didn’t have to prove RM to you in order to explain that strategy. What that means is that those currently using that strategy don’t necessarily have the “holy” understanding. They just believe that they do. That is all it takes. Do they really understand RM perhaps in another form? Not really. They have a “close enough” understanding, the worst of the worst.

The battle isn’t between those of understanding and those without or with misunderstanding. It is between those of one misunderstanding and those with another. One more lustful than the other, but both presumptuous and in error. And both Titans with thousands of years of experience. What could possibly compete with that? Only something extremely right. And that means absolutely NO misunderstanding regardless of the numbers involved. It is necessarily much, much slower. But anything else is an ant trying to compete with gods.

The purity of the “holy”, the “life”, and the “momentum” is all within that one sentence.
RM actually proves that sentence to be what all life has always been about.
That sentence is the “Quantum” that is life itself.
If life is to be preserved for homosapian, that sentence is something that homosapian must be brought to fully understand, not merely fanatically support.

It is necessarily very, very slow. But the alternative is the adversary and the very extinction of homosapian regardless of notions of good or bad, righteousness or sin, honor or cowardice.

This pic was about religion, but the same principle applies;

The “Right” understanding is very slow in coming because its mass/density in so very much greater (out weighing all religions and all sciences) and its velocity is so very much less in the beginning (impossible to be corrupted regardless of desire - immutable). We are, on that time line, just where that “RR” line begins.

If homosapian is to be saved at all. It is RM that is going to do it.
RM represents what was the beginning and RM is what represents what will be at the end,
…with or without homosapian.

If you get into the RM Social Ontology, the following pics, although very simple minded here, begin to piece together the puzzle that is Mankind.

Those are very simple “Black Box” representations of a person and a group.
If you then distribute those groups throughout a society, you get a type of social affectance map;

Now the tricky part comes in when you realize that there are, in effect, 3 realms of affect across society,
the 3 “Planes of Social Affectance”;

It is a little hard to get your mind around it for a while, but one person always has 3 fundamental affects upon society;

  1. Psychological / Mental
  2. Physiological / Medical
  3. Physical / Material/Military/Mechanical

Each person exists in each of those realms or planes. We are accustom to thinking in only physical terms relating the physical map, but just as physical time and distance are formed by the direct effect of one thing on another physically, the same thing happens in the other realms.

Thus direct communication causes a “close” affect between two people and thus on a psychological map, the two people are drawn close together (there is far more involved, but I am keeping this as simple as possible). Likewise, there is physiological or medical affects (such as the air you breath, diseases, toxins, and so on). Those concerns create yet a third map with different distances even between the same people.

You and I are very far apart physically, but we are much closer psychologically due to this communication right here, thus on a psychological map, we would be located close together. But medically speaking, again we are very far separated and thus would again be drawn far apart.

In each of those realms, particles form and all for the same reasons. Those particles are the “groups”; “nations”, "religions, “governments”, “societies”, and so on.

The US Army and Air Force have spent hundreds of billions of dollars on computer simulations that expand on that same kind of mapping of all people, all communication, and all medical concerns. The maps have little to do with national boundaries. Of course, if they had asked me back in the early 80’s, I could have put their program together for 1/100 the cost, but they love spending other people’s money.

That program is why the USA government is so hot to take control over all medical concerns. It is that lust to be God. Once you control all three maps, there is nothing else to be controlled.

And due to that lust, their version of RM tells them that they must annihilate a very large portion of the population, else lose control. They speak of “sustainable resources”, but their worry is actually “sustainable control”. They are, very soon, going to wipe out around 1/3 of the population (although they are discussing even 80%) using mostly diseases (the favorite throughout history). The blame will be shifted onto some kind of terrorist green monkey conservative, no doubt.

But as catastrophic and apocalyptic as that is, that isn’t the focus of my particular concern. My concern is that even after that, those remaining, mass murders though they be, are doomed. Their program makes it look like everything will be just dandy once they get rid of all those uncontrollable elements. But they lust and thus they presume.

Earlier you asked if RM lets me see more than normal. Just like the subatomic world, RM lets me see what can’t be seen. One of the things that it lets me see is the misalignment of their program with that of G.O.D. or The God. Even after they get control over their world, they will still be out of line with G.O.D. and thus will still have troubles. But it is the particular kind of troubles that is going to annihilate them. RM lets me see that as well. Frankly I couldn’t care less about them having absolute control if they weren’t lusting for it, because without such lust, what they produce would be the best governance that has ever been for everyone. But their lust keeps them blind to it.

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Btw, if you are interested in PHT, I wrote this short bit on the subject some time ago for another poster on here (selling his theory on human behavior)… Perception of Hope and Threat. Although I have been considering, for complicated reasons, changing the acronym to
) LAHT, “Locally Accepted Hope and Threat”.

LAHT is what causes motion within the mind of a living creature.
In the other planes, the analog to LAHT would be;
) Physiological: LANC - Locally Accepted Nutrient and Contaminant
) Physical: LAAD - Locally Accepted Aggregation and Dissemination

A sub-thesis (a “plane”) of the entire RM paradigm is Life, under which is the sub-thesis of Sociology.

A sub-thesis to Sociology is involving
) Economics: LAIE, Locally Accepted Income and Expenditure.
) Politics: LAFD, Locally Accepted Favor and Disfavor

They all represent addition and/or subtraction (Profit / Loss) from the entity’s state of existence.

In the case of that particle growth or migration, affectance being added to the particle causes growth on the side to which it was added. But to remain stable, the particle releases or disseminates affectance on the opposite side.

That effect of releasing affectance induces momentum toward the affecting source. That is all related to electric induction currents and motors. It is “pulling” by the process of “pushing” in just the right manner. The same principle applies to psychological, sociological, and physiological inducements.

James,

You’ve mentioned before that revolutions can get a momentum of their own different from those who started it, and that’s an easy idea to understand. The crowd has a mood, and an individual cannot hope to control that mood.

I am fascinated by some aspects of what you’ve just written. Firstly, you seem to be suggesting that those in power have a bad understanding of Rational Metaphysics (RM):

This “close enough” understanding makes them dangerous but not wise. I am assuming this is a mind control/society control sort of RM. How long have they had this “close enough” understanding of RM?

Secondly, the first graph in Right Religion shows various things A, B, C and Science alternating and going up then then all coming down when Right Religion takes hold. I am assuming A, B and C might be quantum mechanics (qm), the Theory of Elementary Waves (TEW) and other theories. Is this what you are representing? Perhaps A, B and C are other things like economics or something like that.

Thirdly, there is the second graph in Right Religion called “World Contention”. It seems to imply that world contention will have a big rise, and then fall later. What fascinates me is that the Socionomics people I follow would agree that at some stage in the next, say 5 to 10 years, there will be intense global fighting. It’s something that happens near the end of depressions like the 1930s, and we are due for such a depression. Is a lot of conflict what the “World Contention” graph is saying?

Eugene Morrow

Yet RM offers a means, but ONLY if done properly. Currently they use their own formulae for such things, often inciting riots themselves just to create specific incentives.

That depends on what you want to call “the close enough” version. Starting after WW2, they began using computers to model society and economics (thank you IBM and Prof John Nash). The gaming industry was founded specifically to get a better grasp of the entire game strategy. But for 6,000 years, “they” have been using one form or another. The significant religions were all about the attempts at using the right formula (having almost nothing to do with mythological fantasies).

Originally that A, B, C referred to current religions. But the same thought actually applies to all significant theories concerning anything. A religion is merely an all encompassing theory (effective whether right or wrong).

Oh yeah… like none before.

The Drone Wars are all in preparation for the upcoming event (as well as arming DHS). There is a lot more to say on that subject than the thread goes into, but I didn’t want to get distracted.

James,

I get the ideas of misinformation being given to the public, and powerful people manipulating things to stay in power. There is certainly plenty of motive and skill out there for that.

I want to return to the idea that there is more knowledge in physics out there than quantum mechanics (qm), and that qm is just a fairy story for the masses. How do you know? Surely there is enough technology for power and manipulation with the current knowledge in qm to do all the nasty things. Drones are not particularly complicated technology. How can we surmise that there is better knowledge in physics that is being kept secret? Do you see any evidence that better physics is being used in some weapon or technology?

Eugene Morrow