Just saying hi to all the new people.
It’s been a minute since we got a nice wave of fresh points of view.
Don’t be discouraged by the sometimes combative nature of the forum.
We just like to test and understand ideas.
You wont find freer speech anywhere online.
Enjoy your stay.
Don’t be afraid to post.
THANKS!!
No, thank you!
Oh, Oh no sir…The pleasure is all mine. Thank you.
You are so welcome.
Well you’re welcome too. I think we should bake a big ass cake for all the new people, and put it into boxes with dry ice, and send it to them, then get on skype or something and have a big party.
What kind of cake, sir?
Just make sure not to add your special cake ingredient without first notifying those who intend to eat the cake. 
Well, that’s kind of a deep and complicated question. I suppose it’s to some degree a matter of perspective. Let’s say that the thing in itself is stipulated by all relevant parties to be a chocolate cake. We could use the term “chocolate” to qualify the term “cake” in order to narrow our view of what exactly the characteristics of the cake may be. However, the possibility remains that other qualifiers may accuratley apply even opposite ones at the same point in time. Suppose that when I was a child, my uncle used to burn me with chocolate covered cigarettes, now since then I’ve had a complex which prevents me from viewing chocolate in anything other than a negative light. Now let’s say that some other person had an identical experience as mine, with the only difference being that they were burned with angel food cigarettes rather than chocolate ones.
Now I run into this person online, and a conversation about cakes arises. The conversation leads to a discussion of a partcular cake. The cake in question, unknown from a first hand empirical perspective by both parties is determined by come kind of stipulation to be a chocolate one. Now we know we’re talking about the same cake, (the one we’re going to ship out for the big ILP/Skype cake and ice cream party).
Now we’re talking about not just cakes, and not just kinds of cakes, but about an individual, particular, induplicable cake occupying a unique place in both space and time, an aspect of its identity which can never be the same as that of another cake given the proper definition and description of which precise cake we’re talking about. And as far as you and I know, it’s a chocolate one.
So we’re saying now, that the thing in itself is stipulated, in this case, to be a chocolate cake. Now here’s where shit gets crazy…
Inside of me, I get a gross feeling, my palms start to sweat. I get anxious and start to have haunting flashbacks of being burned with those chocolate cigarettes. So my feeling is “yuck”. I hate this.
But you on the other hand, you just feel great when you hear it. It’s like, chocolate is your favorite. You’re just glad it’s not an angel food cake or you’d be feeling just like me.
So now back to the whole label attaching thing…How is it that one cake, an individual one with no duplicates, can be both terrible and great at the same time? Holy shit.
I think it’s because the parts of it that are terrible and great are secondary and not necessary to its essence, but that’s just my opinion.
I dunno man. I’m not even gonna read this before I click send. And I have to go to work now.
I’m really not even sure that we’ll be able to coordinate the whole cake exchanging thing. It’d take a long time. It might go bad. Sick philosophers everywhere…ok really gotta go now.
Welcome to ILP again.
You rock, Smears! I was laughing my ass off throughout reading that entire post.
But, by, “Special cake ingredient,” I was referring to marijuana as I’m sure you may have guessed.
Now brownies might last longer in the mail…but I dunno man.
You know what? Screw work too. I just switched jobs like outta nowhere about 2 hours ago and basically got like a 400 a month raise with vacation time health/dental the whole shit. Crazy man. I’m not going in to the other one today.
Congratulations, dude, that’s awesome!!!
I’m sure you’ve given your present employer adequate notice, they pretty much expect you to miss a day or two now that you have found a different job anyway.
Now here’s another philosophical paradox in our midst.
How can two people, who question whether or not thier individual understandings of the term “adequate” match one another sufficiently enough for an single point, (that’s another one of those induplicable things), to be understood simply by being stated in a set of sentences and exchanged between the two parties?
I think we have to be maximally specific. Pav wants to know if I’ve given my present employer “adequate” notice of my resignation. I want him to know exactly how much notice I’ve given him so that he can make the determination according to his own definitions. The problem is that I don’t know what his definition of adequate is, so when I want to tell him that I told my boss today that I start the new job tomorrow, I can’t be sure of what that information will mean to him when he makes his determinations. So I might start off with a response like “sure plenty”. And work my way down to something like “I gave him 12.7777 hours notice”. If you follow that along, eventually pav could know exactly all there was to know about the situation regarding my changing of jobs and the associated notices given, but there’s still something about it that just drives me crazy.
As soon as I turn around and ask some other person if they gave adequate notice, I’d have to go back over the whole process again. It’s like a kind of thing that can only be known through a process. I mean, when you think about knowing what a thing is, you just think, hey, I learn what this is, and then I know what it is. But you don’t completley know, because the fucking definitions change every second. It makes me crazy man. I just got so freaked out even typing that that I’m not sure anymore where this is going.
This is awesome!
Another paradox:
I say, fuck your current employer anyway, your new job is worth $400 more a month.
And you say:
Notice is over-rated. I fired someone yesterday. I didn’t give him any “notice” about that.
I agree that it’s over-rated, unless it is reciprocal.
Most companies have it to where you have to give some pre-determined notice in order to be eligible for re-hire, but then others make it a contractual obligation. There are other companies still where even if you quit, but do not give notice, you go down as a job abandonment, even if you actually announce to them that you quit!
The way my contract is written, they have to give me fifteen days notice if they are going to terminate my contract and I have to give them fifteen days notice if I am going to voluntarily terminate my contract. I think that it is better that way because it would give me time to look for another job and them a week to find another manager and a week for me to train said manager.
It was actually originally going to be thirty days, but I didn’t like that at all because if I were to find a higher paying job, nobody would wait that long for me to start working there.
It’s usually a little different in Restaurant World. I’ve rehired people that I have fired, and been rehired after quitting without notice. And I’ve rehired people who have walked out on me.
Shit happens.
That’s pretty understandable given the nature of the industry. Correct me if I’m wrong on any of less, but I’m going to venture to guess that the average restaurant employs somewhere between 20-30 people and many of the employees themselves are interchangeable to the extent that they can handle multiple tasks associated with operation. For that reason, if one person decides to walk out mid-shift that is a cook, the other cooks could probably pick up the slack, or you have a manager or someone on the wait staff that can fill in for the cook.
That’s what makes it different, I think. For instance, with this hotel, there are only even four people employed here that can operate the computer system to enough of an extent that anyone can even be checked in!!! That’s why giving notice is, “Required,” here, even for Front Desk Clerks because if someone just left, nobody would get a day off without me working a double until someone else got hired and trained.
If I walked without notice, this place would be completely fucked for the better part of a month…
But doesn’t everyone think this?
We have people who are crossed-trained, but that’s actually unusual. But since wages are generally low, a little OT on the books doesn’t break the bank.
Probably, but there a few things that are very important to the operation of this hotel that I am the only person currently employed that knows how to do these things.
I understand your point, though. I probably shouldn’t have said a month, but the hotel would definitely be fucked for at least two weeks. I mean, it would continue to run and everything like that, I’m talking mostly about back office stuff.
Most restaurants don’t have cross-trained people? Is there a logic behind not cross-training people that I am missing? I’m not asking in sarcasm, I just can;t figure out a reason not to cross-train.
Even back when I sold furniture, that was at a JCPenney. I could also sell shoes or jewelry if I had to because I was trained to be able to do those things, though I never once worked anywhere except the furniture floor.