# New World Order
**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274
**Category:** Society, Government, and Economics
**Created:** [July 25, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274 "2023-07-25T07:36:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 6
### Author:  [@Costard](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Costard)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/101 "2023-12-09T22:51:21Z")
> [@Lorikreep](#):
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> He’s also talking about using gold as a standard.
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> A return from abstractions to tangible reality.
> [@Lorikreep](#):
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> So, no more inverted genders, but genders referring to sexual reproductive roles converted to social roles.
This is literally the funniest thing I’ve read online for a while. The level of self-delusion and naivete about how the world works is staggering. One can only pity a mind like this.
This is no different to astrology, a complete confusion about unrelated phenomena.
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### Author:  [@HumAnIze](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/HumAnIze)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/102 "2023-12-10T11:43:07Z")
Imagine listening to Putin.
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### Author:  [@HumAnIze](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/HumAnIze)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/103 "2023-12-10T11:43:34Z")
> [@Costard](#):
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> > [@Lorikreep](#):
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> > He’s also talking about using gold as a standard.
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> > A return from abstractions to tangible reality.
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> > [@Lorikreep](#):
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> > So, no more inverted genders, but genders referring to sexual reproductive roles converted to social roles.
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> This is literally the funniest thing I’ve read online for a while. The level of self-delusion and naivete about how the world works is staggering. One can only pity a mind like this.
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> This is no different to astrology, a complete confusion about unrelated phenomena.
😆 =D\>
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/104 "2023-12-10T12:18:56Z")
As with any social interaction the like minded gather in groups.
They gather and separate…
A perfect way to keep them all in a category, with specific characteristics.
Ironically, herd psyche’s gather due to a threat…and have nothing in common other than this threat.
So, you will notice, they have nothing to discuss with each other, other than the threat they share a dislike for.
Herds gather by fear.
You see it in nature…gazelles herding with zebras…and water buffalo…
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/105 "2023-12-10T12:47:16Z")
We see multipolarity forming against unipolarity…or contra American messianic postmodern, liberalism; Judeo-Puritanism.
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### Author:  [@MagsJ](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/MagsJ)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/106 "2023-12-10T16:32:44Z")
> [@Lorikeet](#):
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> [attachment=0]GA-7DihW0AARcOo.jpg[/attachment]
> We see multipolarity forming against unipolarity…or contra American messianic postmodern, liberalism; Judeo-Puritanism.
That would be the Governments and not necessarily the populations… sure some, but not all.
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/107 "2023-12-10T17:11:43Z")
[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beecnWKAOrI[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beecnWKAOrI%5B/youtube%5D)
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/108 "2023-12-15T14:14:47Z")
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/109 "2023-12-15T14:55:52Z")
[This is the difference between a conservative state (Russia) and a fake conservative state (Poland 2015-2023): the former actually crushes the enemy.](https://twitter.com/MGKrupa/status/1735432180006826387)
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/110 "2023-12-15T18:11:00Z")
[Putin’s famous historic Munich speech in 2007
This is a PHENOMINAL speech.
EVERYONE needs to hear it!
What prophecies have come true?](https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1735473969904373849)
> [@Putin](#):
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> NATO’s eastward expansion foments tension
> Putin’s Munich speech: “NATO expansion does not have any relation with the modernization of the Alliance itself, or with ensuring security in Europe. On the contrary, it represents a serious provocation that reduces the level of mutual trust.”
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> Democracy by diktat won’t work
> Putin stressed in his Munch speech: “[The observance of human rights] is an important task. We support this. But this does not mean interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and especially not imposing a regime that determines how these states should live and develop. It is obvious that such interference does not promote the development of democratic states at all. On the contrary, it makes them dependent and, as a consequence, politically and economically unstable.”
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> An arms race will follow
> Putin stated in his historic Munich speech: “No one can feel that international law is like a stone wall that will protect them. Of course, such a policy stimulates an arms race… The potential danger of the destabilization of international relations is connected with obvious stagnation in the disarmament issue.”
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> Unresolved Iranian nuclear problem
> Putin noted in his historic Munich speech: “If the international community does not find a reasonable solution for resolving this conflict of interests, the world will continue to suffer similar, destabilizing crises… We are going to constantly fight against the threat of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.”
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> Long-term contracts and energy security
> Putin stated in his Munich speech: “And now about whether our government cabinet is able to operate responsibly in resolving issues linked to energy deliveries and ensuring energy security. Of course, it can! Moreover, all that we have done and are doing is designed to achieve only one goal, namely to transfer our relations with consumers and countries that transport our energy to market-based, transparent principles and long-term contracts.”
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> Unipolar world’s fall
> Putin said in his Munich speech: “I consider that the unipolar model is not only unacceptable but also impossible in today’s world. The model itself is flawed because at its basis there is and can be no moral foundations for modern civilization. There is no reason to doubt that the economic potential of the new centers of global economic growth will inevitably be converted into political influence and will strengthen multipolarity.”
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> From friends to foes
> Putin said in his Munich speech: “He (U.S. President George W. Bush) says, 'I proceed from the fact that Russia and the USA will never be opponents and enemies again. I agree with him.”
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> Another world
> Putin said in his Munich speech: “Russia is a country with a history that spans more than a thousand years and has practically always used the privilege to carry out an independent foreign policy.”
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> NATO’s expansion, a unipolar world, disarmament problems, the erosion of the OSCE as an institution, the Iranian nuclear problem and Europe’s energy security - TASS has summarized Putin’s warnings and prophecies from his Munich speech that have come true simply because nobody turned an attentive ear to them.
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/111 "2023-12-18T12:55:38Z")
> [@""Marx](#):
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> The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property.
Communist social-engineering is encapsulated in this quote:
> [@Engels](#):
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> Freedom does not consist in the dream of independence of natural laws, but in the knowledge of these laws and in the possibility this gives us of systematically making them work towards definite ends…
> Freedom therefore consists in the control over ourselves and over external nature which is founded on the knowledge of natural necessity.
Presumably, a disbelief in free-will implies that “control over ourselves and external nature” must be determined by nature, i.e., Deus. Marxist ‘freedom,’ for some, is founded on faith and surrender to fate, hoping that it will be, or has been determined; revolutionaries will act to bring about what has been determined – on earth as it is in heaven. The process acquires a divine mission – a messianic taste. It is men who are divine agencies of universal determinism. They have no choice in the matter, they have been “chosen” by higher powers. The goal is to control nature and create a technological Utopia, upon earth, as it were in Heaven. Here ‘create’ – for those that deny free-will – simply means to act on behalf of what has been determined; to become agencies of fate. For those that do believe in human agency and ‘free-will,’ the proposition is to act as gods and create a paradise on earth by subverting natural order in order to overturn its many injustices.
> [@McGilchrist](#):
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> The denial of the divine was as important to them as the elevation of matter. This was itself, of course, an idea; and, if it could be said to be true, so was the idea of its truth. But there is more than a little of the Promethean about the materialists. When one of their number, Ludwig Büchner, emerged from a period of personal crisis it was with the proclamation:
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> > [@Büchner](#):
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> > No longer do I acknowledge any human authority over me.
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> No human authority, notice. The unwillingness to acknowledge any authority was, in another parallel with the Reformation, at the very core of materialism: but these reformers, like those before them, had to acknowledge some sort of authority, even if it were the authority of reason (which is something in itself we can only intuit). So the materialists, too, had to have a superhuman authority: and this new divinity was science. Both scientific materialism and the dialectical materialism of Engels and Marx emerged from the view that science was the only authority.
> In 1848, revolution spread across Europe, and its reverberations were felt most strongly in France and Germany. ‘For the scientific materialists, and to some extent for Marx as well, opposition to groundless authority was the task and natural science was its justification.’ Speaking in 1853, Lyon Playfair, one of the keenest evangelists for scientific materialism in nineteenth-century Britain, declared that ‘science is a religion and its philosophers are the priests of nature’: T. H. Huxley, Darwin’s ‘bulldog,’ described his talks as lay sermons. This was part of a broad shift whereby, according to Gaukroger, the West’s sense of its own superiority shifted seamlessly in the early nineteenth century from its religion to its science. In doing so it swapped one religion for another; but these ‘priests of nature’ did not honour nature herself so much as the human capacity to control nature, and to make it apparently graspable by rationalism alone: the left hemisphere reflecting on itself. It is interesting that Marx called Prometheus, opposed as he was to ‘all divine and earthly Gods who do not acknowledge human self-consciousness as the highest divinity … the most eminent saint and martyr in the philosophic calendar’. It is an uncomfortable fact that Hitler, too, was later to write that the Aryan is ‘the Prometheus of mankind from whose bright forehead the divine spark of genius has sprung at all times, forever kindling anew that fire of knowledge which illumined the night of silent mysteries and thus caused man to climb the path to mastery over the other beings of this earth.’ In sweeping away the past, it seems that the concept of hubris, which the Greeks had understood as lying at the heart of all tragedy, was lost.
> [size=80][The Master and His Emissary][/size]
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### Author:  [@Great\_Again](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Great_Again)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/112 "2023-12-22T23:44:40Z")
> [@Lorikeet](#):
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> We see multipolarity forming against unipolarity…or contra American messianic postmodern, liberalism; Judeo-Puritanism.
So again:
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/113 "2023-12-23T01:41:53Z")
New Jerusalem versus the Infidels.
Armageddon or the birth of a New, New World Order.
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### Author:  [@Great\_Again](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Great_Again)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 9:37am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/114 "2023-12-23T09:37:39Z")
Under Putin, something is happening in Russia that has never happened there before: Putin is the first leader in Russia to break away from the previously all-accessible imitation of the West, and - again - with the help of the West. The West has weakened itself through its war in Ukraine. It has been weakening itself in this way ever since the US war in Vietnam.
How does Putin justify his approach?
1. Putin justifies his approach by blaming the West because, according to Putin, the West hates Russia. This justification is typical of today’s world, in which everyone allegedly hates everyone else (which of course is not true), but Putin can cite it for perfectly legitimate reasons.
2. Putin justifies his approach by assuming, indeed having to assume “Eurasianism”, because the link to the West has been lost due to Western arrogance towards Putin (see 1). He has to call his concept “Eurasianism”, because not only Europeans but also Asians live in his empire. He cannot base it on Christians alone, because Muslims and Buddhists and natural religious peoples (so-called pagans) also live in his empire. In addition, Christians are demographically declining. He can also only achieve economic advantages for his country, if he holds his empire together. If his empire were to collapse, the economic successes would also be lost. Russia is dependent on the export of oil and natural gas. That was also the reason why the West, under the leadership of the United States, wanted to weaken Russia, so that it would collapse, at least economically.
3. Putin justifies his approach by calling “Eurasianism” “Russian culture”, because he has to take into account the demographic situation in Russia: as I said, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and natural religious peoples are living there (=\> 2), apart from the many atheists - whereby the Christians and atheists are drastically decreasing rapidly. To speak of a “Russian culture” is daring because it does not correspond to the facts, and testifies to good rhetoric on the part of Putin. Putin has to speak like this because he is under pressure and there is only one option left for him. Maybe he will succeed. If so, then the “ninth culture” announced by Oswald Spengler in his magnum opus would still become a reality.
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/115 "2024-01-30T13:04:15Z")
New World Order = Globalism = Americanism
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/116 "2024-01-30T13:06:08Z")
Look at the names.
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/117 "2024-01-30T13:11:42Z")
What stands in the way of a New World Order - Globalism?
Ethnicity.
Race.
Gender…
All biological identifiers.
All cultures - traditions.
The goal is a culture-of-no-culture…populated by individuals with no past - Last Men; individuals with no collective identity rooted in nature.
Associating all resistance with globalism is how they prevent resistance to become effective.
The average dolt associates all alliances, all emerging unions attempting to resist, as being part of globalism.
Who are these “international capitalists”?
They have names and faces.
They are the ones funding open borders, free flow of resources - including human resources; they are the ones undermining traditional families, traditional cultures; they are the one imposing Americanism as a global model to be emulated by all.
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/118 "2024-01-30T13:23:17Z")
> [@Heisman](#):
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> To tolerate all cultures is possible only if one does not have a culture. Perhaps the deepest or most influential root of modern Western multiculturalism is the Norman destruction of Anglo-Saxon Kultur. Norman civilization did play some role in replacing Anglo-Saxon Kultur with a more rationalistic mode of discourse. Western political equality’s slide towards cultural equality would thus have its most influential origin in the destruction of a distinct, native, Anglo-Saxon Kultur. The bourgeois Anglo-Saxon can believe that other cultures are equal to his own because his own Kultur is degenerate or dead.
> The mustard plants of multiculturalism have been fertilized by the decayed remains of individualistic universalism. Whereas the universalism of Christianity helped cultivate the idea of a single human race, multiculturalism is the admission of the failure of the practical realization of the ideal of a truly universal human civilization. Multiculturalism creeps back into a seemingly pagan tolerance, but is it pagan? Greco-Roman paganism tolerance was tolerance of diverse standards for diverse humans and this meant, in the view of men such as Aristotle, that some are born to be slaves while others are born to be masters. Tolerance for caste and other forms of inequality would be the ultimate logic of a pagan multiculturalism, and this point only clarifies the influence of Christianity in promoting the idea of a single, universal human morality in the West.
Americanism’s culture-of-no-culture is the perfect model for Globalism.
Underlying it is historical resentment.
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### Author:  [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/119 "2024-01-31T12:42:47Z")
> [@Glazyev](#):
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> We are witnessing the implementation of the well-known Russophobic stratagem of Brzezinski that ‘the new world order will be created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia.’
> [@Glazyev](#):
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> The supporting structure of this new order is the comprador oligarchy, formed on privatization and the monetary regulator serving its interests, ensuring that Russia is pumped out of billions of capital, billions of tons of natural resources, and hundreds of thousands of minds.
> Faced with loss of economic competitiveness due to exhaustion of development opportunities within the existing world economic order, the world leader has always unleashed a world war in order to destroy and contain rivals. Washington repeats the policy of London a century ago.
> The United States, following the UK, will lose world domination due to the objective laws of changing world economic structures. As a result of the world war unleashed by them, China and India, which are not participating in it, will win.
They - neo-cons - hate Russia because of what Stalin did to Trotsky, and what Putin did to their Oligarchs…who were supposed to pillage Russia’s vast natural resources, and then its human resources, as they’ve done to countless other nations.
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### Author:  [@obsrvr524](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/obsrvr524)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/new-world-order/49274/120 "2024-02-04T12:58:22Z")
> [@daniel j lavender](#):
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> As we observed during the Corona panic of 2020-2021 governments around the world, upon drop of a hat, can cooperate and spread message of global unity and cooperation. Yet we still have military, we still have war and as a planet we continue to systematically prepare for conflict. It’s nonsense. All a show. Tribal instincts are being manipulated and exploited to the advantage of a few. People are being played for fools. Should be obvious now.
I have to very much agree with that and the OP.
I would add that the obvious global authoritarian regime is not totally stable. Using puppets like O’Biden to instigate wars and destroy the US is indication that the task of total authority isn’t quite complete. That is obviously why Mr Trump has been so hated - he disrupted their schedule - tore the curtain - established peace - which O’Biden is currently trying to get back on track - successfully so far.
The issue hasn’t been whether nations exist and compete but rather who gets to manipulate the endless competition - and more importantly - what are the actual rules?
The current U.N. globalist agenda (and their many authoritarian participants) seems to accept that there are no rules other than to maintain their supremacy. Unfortunately - being simple minded individuals - killing off a major portion of the population and other atrocious things are the only thing they can think to do in order to maintain their dominance.
To them - people are just a disposable - but temporarily necessary - tool - paper towels.
Last year I was predicting that O’Biden would initiate a new war for the USA somewhere around spring or summer this year. He seems to be on track. The goal being to destroy the USA and Israel - and all thoughts of actual democracy anywhere and everywhere throughout the world. Mr Trump and the US Constitution seem to be a persistent problem for them. Our other nations have already fallen - but none totally assimilated into the Borg.
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