Nietzschean definition of nihilism.

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I don’t believe in the ER, I will the ER. I will it because it’s the eternal recurrence of the will to power.

They clash.

2 and 3 are forms of 1, unless you mean “might” in a quite narrow sense. 3 only occurs where 1 does not resolve the conflict, i.e., where the clashing wills are more or less equally strong. 2 is simply the deceptive or deluded form of 1.

Not quite. I’ve given you the rational value of valuation. This is of a kind with the rational view of the world as will to power.

That thing about a miserable wretch was a little inside joke. Mo, or “von Rivers”, once said he was still a miserable wretch about nihilism; and some KTS denizen once claimed you were Mo. To be honest, it seems the miserableness of your wretchedness has worn off quite a bit with time.

I’m not sure what you’re asking of me, my life story? Almost everyone is right from his own side–and if he isn’t, he will be (he will change his opinion). Only the philosopher is not. The philosopher understands why everyone is right from his own side, by understanding why he himself tends to be right from his own side… It is because of the will to power or, as Fixed Cross has called it, self-valuing. And with this insight, the philosopher is right from his own side after all, and, more likely than anyone else, not just from his own side. The philosopher transcends his cave by realising that beyond his cave there are just countless other caves.

It means that you’re asking for particulars where I’m talking about universals. All I could give you is examples–specific instances of this general principle.

That reminds me :

[size=95]Chad: “Oliver, I would have thought that, if a moral theory entails that, say, the Emperor Palpatine (from Star Wars) is some kind of moral exemplar, then this would constitute a decisive counterexample to the theory. Is your idea that N’s moral theory is somehow impervious (even in principle) to counterexamples? Is this true generally of all moral theories on your view? Do you think it would be reasonable for an act utilitarian, for example, to simply ignore the standard counterexamples to his view?”

Oliver: “Yes, because counterexamples presuppose a given moral standard.”

Chad: "Suppose then that I said that there is exactly one thing that is morally wrong: wearing a wristwatch. How else could you refute this theory than by pointing out that it is open to obvious counterexamples?"
[liked by Dereck]

Dereck: "^This is—at least one reason—why moral nihilism is untenable^"

Oliver: "No, suppose that [i]I[/i] said that thing about wearing a wristwatch. Now give me a counterexample."

Chad: "No problem. A man rapes a woman while wearing no wristwatch. That's a case in which the proposed (absurd) analysis is clearly going to fail. For something wrong has obviously been done in this case, but the theory entails the falsehood that no wrong action has been performed."

Oliver: "Nothing wrong has been done, since the only thing that is morally wrong is wearing a wristwatch. It's fine for a man to rape a woman."[/size]
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I am well aware that your concept of power is broader than the common one. I insist, however, that one should use a precise term instead of broadening an existing term.

Power implies egoism. First, on the level of the individual; then, on the level of family; then, on the level of tribe; and finally, on the level of nation.

Order implies universalism.

Crucial difference.

Also, order is utopian and power is dystopian.

It is a very sad thing that you would call order “dead”. It is a meaningless statement that only shows your disdain for it.

Dystopian ideals are degenerate. If the universe is chaos (dystopia) it only makes sense that the ideal should be the opposite (utopia.)

You have somehow deceived yourself into thinking that the ideal is dystopia and that everything else is “nihilistic”.

Very sad.

Also, I did notice you called me a zombie on multiple occasions, but I am letting it slip this time. Do interpret it as my good will.

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You seem obsessed with distinctions of Jews and Gentiles (Christians). Why is that relevant to this discussion, and Nihilism? You haven’t covered the basics yet. We were discussing the discrepancies between reality and ideals, and how that distinction connects with nihilism.

Calling family and tribal oriented socialism/society “jewish” is a misnomer. Jews are a small part of the human population. I would call it “Family-ism”. Arbiter of Change created a thread, about a month ago, about “X-ism” where he distinguished Ego/Self-ism from Exist-ism. Basically it’s a differentiation out from self. Family is an extension of self, tribe extension of family, country and nation extension of tribe, race extension of nation, humanity extension of race-ism, etc.

Yes.

That’s interesting, but your obsession to describe and explain social phenomena in terms of “jews” is irrelevant. It’s distracting to the finer points. Think outside “jews and gentiles” as-if that were a proper distinction anyway (is it?).

Confront him, not me. Gather your courage and attack him, not others as a messenger. Satyr has ideals, as all people do, but he stresses and emphasizes reality. He admits many times that he acts as the counter-balance to jew-christian idealism (nihilism). He is the counter-weight of reality, over-emphasizing reality. Somebody has to do that, because a whole nation of idealists is dangerous and self destructive.

It sounds like you have a lot of opinions to aim at them.

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The word obsession implies indulgence. When applied to observation, it implies incorrect observations about reality that are difficult to let go of.

I am not the one who is obsessed here. The distinction between Jews and Gentiles (which is not the same as Christians) is realistic, useful and appropriate for the topic at hand.

In fact, it is you who are obsessed. You are obsessing over meaningless terms such as “nihilism” and meaningless phrases such as “discrepancy between the ideal and the real”.

I have already explained to you that there is no such a thing as discrepancy between the ideal and the real in negative sense of the phrase. That is, unless you understand the phrase in banal, mundane, pragmatic sense. But you have ignored this.

Why did you ignore it?

Because you are an arrogant imbecile. I have correctly identified that you are Jewish by spirit.

The word arrogance implies that you consider yourself to be better than you really are. And the word imbecile implies that you aren’t very intelligent.

Basically, whenever a foreign term, or anything foreign at all, is introduced in discussion, you flip out because it implies that you are uninformed.

And you are uninformed. As I said, you are not even Boromir, for Boromirs understand that the world is run by the Jewish mafia, whereas Gentiles such as yourself do not.

You are too full of yourself. You are utterly incapable of introducing the possibility that you’re a puppet that is controlled by the Jews.

The fact is, there is no more important distinction than that between Jews and Gentiles. What is unimportant is your obsession with Nietzsche and his apolitical convoluted terms such as “nihilism”.

The fact that you are asking me to think outside Jews and Gentiles is telling. Very obedient Goy you are.

Of course, I am predicting that, since you are utterly incapable of discussing, you will resort to usual hyper-masculine defensive posturing you resort to when you are exposed for what you are.

The ideal is not rooted in the real, I repeat. It is rooted in aesthetics, in imagination, in what is beatuiful; and this is always beyond the real.

You are stuck on the pragmatic level and cannot go beyond it.

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No, I’ve only responded briefly in this thread to your childish diatribes. No obsession in my responses, no anger, no lashing out.

Petulant insults won’t work on me, boy. I defined the definitions, real, ideal, nihilism. When a young child, such as yourself, keeps shitting in his pants in public, then everybody knows that your potty training has failed. Despite your ideals, reality exposes the truth. Some children learn faster, to use the toilet, to listen and speak, to read and write, before others. The ideal, the willpower, these exist between reality and ideal. Ideals are goals, simple, or complex. As simple as making it to a toilet in time to relieve yourself.

Or as complex as waging war and conquering a neighboring country. No judaism, no christianity involved. These extra distinctions, extra factors, reflect your own obsession and muddled mind.

Are you easily confused, boy?

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I will try to explain the psychology behind this sort of “advice” not with the hope that Wizard will understand his mistakes – most likely he won’t – but because I want others who find themselves in similar situations to understand what’s really going on without having to put too much effort in it. I want to protect innocent people from being corrupted by this sort of hyper-masculine fear-mongering psychology.

Let’s make it clear that I do want to attack Satyr, for I consider it my responsibility to retaliate for every little injustice that is done to me and others. Nonetheless, I also understand that I cannot do so directly because there is a great danger that Satyr will crush me by the sheer amount of difficulty that he makes himself to be. I would, probably, have to spend too much of my time on it, which would be too much of a distraction, and so, counter-productive. For this reason, I resort to indirect attacks.

It is true, I have to admit, I am indirectly attacking Satyr in these recent posts of mine. Still, I think I am being on-topic when I do so. I think that the mind of someone like Satyr is relevant to the topic in the sense that it helps to exemplify the psychology of Gentiles. Unlike what Wizard says, Jews and Gentiles are relevant to the topic because it is them who are nihilists and not heroic Aryans who place idealism above realism.

The number of injustices done in the world is practically countless meaning that lifetime is not enough to correct every single one of them. For this reason selection by process of prioritization is necessary. One has to rank injustices by their size and start dealing with the biggest ones first and only move onto smaller ones after the big ones are dealt with. What Satyr, Wizard, Jakob, Sauwelios and icycalm have been doing on the Internet is most likely insignificant compared to what’s going behind the scenes. If I was aware of any bigger injustices done in the world, and if I could take action to correct them, I would pay no attention to these insignificant people. Their insignificance means they can be strategically disregarded. However, since I am not, and since I have free time which I do not know how to spend in any better way than this, I can deal with them, to the extent that my free time allows me to do so.

I am no Joker. I am Batman.

But let’s get back to Wizard’s advice. He says I should “gather my courage” and “directly attack Satyr”.

There are two reasons why Wizard is giving me this advice: first, because he wants to help me; and second, because he wants to harm me.

He wants to help me because he truly believes that by attacking indirectly I am causing harm to myself. He does not state it explicitly, but I believe that the harm he is speaking of is that of femininity: by attaking indirectly I become emasculated.

This betrays his fear of femininity, and in general, his fear of weakness. There is no harm at all in what I am doing. The only harm is that of social judgment: by acting in a feminine way I risk being seen as “weak” and “effete”.

In fact, it is him who harms himself for he succumbs to fear. His actions are guided not by an ideal, but by his fear of weakness. As a matter of fact, whoever promotes idea that realism is more important idealism is dominated by fear, and therefore, Jewish in spirit.

He wants to harm me because I caused him pain by implying that he is uninformed and not quite as intelligent as he thought he is. Since I made him feel inferior about himself, he decided to retaliate by making me feel inferior in return. Unfortunately, that didn’t work.

Satyr and his friends (e.g. Lyssa) will no doubt attempt to accuse me of being a coward for refusing to face them directly. This is a herding tactic that Jews use to trick other into playing their game. They call you a coward in order to turn you into a coward. Then they use this to reinforce their own delusions.

A man who refuses to do what he cannot do is not a coward. Rather, a man who has been tricked into doing what he cannot do is a coward, not the other way around.

Frodo is not a coward for refusing to confront Boromir. He is not a coward for taking the Ring and running away from Boromir. Rather, his acts are heroic because he did not give in to Boromir’s bullying. Were he to confront Boromir, he would have lost the Ring and the world would have been destroyed.

Boromir later regreted what he did – a sign that Boromir is far more noble than Satyr is. Satyr claims that there is no such a thing as regret (or at the very least, that regret is a harmful emotion.)

Another herding tactic commonly used by Jews is confusion of different concerns (a term used in computer science.) Instead of separating different concerns, they intentionally confuse them as one and the same in order to make people think that if they are X then they cannot be Y (or that they must be Z.)

For example, Satyr and his friends will take advantage of my inability to face them directly to imply that it necessarily means that I am inferior to them. If I cannot face them, I am weak, and that necessarily means that my arguments are wrong, or that I am inferior in general and can be disregarded on this ground.

They confuse moral superiority with superiority based on sheer strength. They deny that morality, and nobility in general, is more important than strength.

People like Wizard want me to refrain from voicing my opinion if I can only voice it in an indirect way. That’s how enslaved they are.

Boromirs are dangerous because they are aware but not completely so. They look as if they understand, but in reality, they do not.

They are narcissists who rely on the vanity of self-consciousness to prove to themselves, and hopefully to others, that they are not narcissists. This is very deceiving. The fact that they are self-conscious makes it look as if their introspection is genuine. But it generally isn’t and this betrays itself in subtle details that only a very sharp eye can spot.

Satyr (Constantinos Apostolakos) is a miniature version of icycalm (Antonio Zyrmpas.) Both are Greek. Maybe there is some connection. icycalm is Boromir on crack. Whereas Satyr is only a cyber-bully, icycalm, beside being a forum shitposter cyber-bully, is also a real-life bully (he’s also a criminal and he’s proud of it.)

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Nihilism is the practice of willing nihil, which means, nothing. It is the term we use to signify the absence of ideals.

There is a trend among nihilists, however, to confuse the issue by insisting that everyone has ideals. By doing so, they want to redefine the term to mean unrealistic ideals. As I already explained earlier in this thread, there are no such things as “realistic” or “unrealistic” ideals. It’s a meaningless classification invented by nihilists (Jews and Gentiles) to further their own interests. There are realistic and unrealistic means, but no realistic and unrealistic ideals. There are your own ideals and foreign ideals, but no realistic and unrealistic ideals.

Wizard insists that everyone has ideals, including Gentiles such as himself and Satyr. This is only to confuse the issue further. It’s like Erik insisting that everyone possesses empathy in order to blur the distinction between moral people and immoral people.

It is not that they are wrong, you see, they are right, and precisely because they are right they are extremely dangerous. The problem is that they misunderstand what it means to have no ideals. This is the problem. Their understanding is too literal.

Basically, the way they interpret “having no ideals” is as, literally, having no ideals, which can easily be demonstrated to be false. But this is not what people mean when they use the phrase.

They do not understand the concept of hierarchy. The individual is characterized by a hierarchy of “forces”. What one means by “lack of ideal” is not “lack of ideal in the hierarchy” but “lack of ideal on the top of the hierarchy”.

To have no ideals means to not be guided by ideals. That’s what is really meant.

Nihilists are not guided by ideals. They have ideals, but they are not guided by them, not in the sense that their ideals are at the top of their hierarchy. Rather, they are guided by fear.

Nihilists are people who are dominated by fear.

Within this camp – the camp of Jews and Gentiles – there are those who react to fear by confronting it and those who run away from it into fantasies. The former are called “realists” and the latter “idealists”.

They are completely stuck within this narrow domain of reality. They are stuck in Plato’s cave. Whoever exists outside of their limited horizon is necessarily misinterpreted as something within it.

An Aryan is thus misinterpreted as an idealistic slave.

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This is how Google defines the word “ideal”:

This means that “making it to a toilet in time to relieve yourself” is something that is regarded as perfect.

The word perfect, however, is vague enough to leave room for different interpretations. I bet you will find nothing strange about the claim that “making it to a toilet in time to relieve yourself” is a thing that is regarded as perfect. But that is only because you are too mechanical.

Ideals refer to aesthetics. There is nothing aesthetically pleasant about “making it to a toilet in time to relieve yourself”. It’s not something that motivates and inspires people into action. There is no beauty in it. No one ever died in order to “make it to a toilet in time to relieve himself”.

Don’t you feel embarassed at yourself for not being able to discern the distinction between ideals and goals?

Your defensive posturing which manifests as calling my posts “childish diatrabes” and myself as a “child” and a “young boy”, accusations which Gentiles such as you do not realize to be compliments from the Aryan point of view, have no other purpose than to deny the possibility of your ignorance.

You need to get off your high horse.

The choice of ideal is an aesthetic one, not a rational one. Gentiles such as you who prioritze reason (Satyr too prioritizes reason) do not understand this.

Reason is a means. An instrument. Not an end.

You choose something that is beautiful and you do your best to contribute to its realization.

Ideals transcend the individual. Goals do not. Goals are very individualistic. But ideals apply to life in general.

Your “ideals” are individualistic, and so, they are no ideals at all, but mere goals that you achieve for your selfish ends. This is why realism is extremely important to you. You simply have to achieve something.

An obese man does not have to become fit. The ideal of fitness transcends his individuality. Instead, he can use any means he has to contribute to the realization of his ideal. Instead of focusing on himself, by making himself fit, he can focus on others, on children, to make sure that they do not become obese.

Do you understand this, Wizard?

I believe that you do not because you are too much of an egoist.

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Nihilism means a break between reality and ideals. It means living in the land of ideals, solipsism. It means a child’s mentality, stuck in imagination, fearing and recoiling from reality. Some of us have discussed it at length. Reality requires courage to address, to “live within”. Idealism does not. Idealism is a salve, a salvation, a fairy tale realm that modern day morons use to escape misery and suffering, usually caused by their own stupidity and cowardice. It’s not a matter of lacking ideals, or denouncing great ideals, but instead reconnecting reality with ideals. That is the point of KT forum. Re-connection.

Nihilists seek to further disconnect, and remain dualistic, about reality and ideals.

Your head is filled with useless political and religious garbage, “gentiles and jews”, who, gives, a, fuck??? You sound confused and trying to lash out against demons inside your head, like a child imagining monsters in the night.

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I think to have an idea is fully different from having an ideal. Ideals are there only to deny reality, like idols. it is always connected with decadence. Plato’s ideal state. Actually a will to rest for a while, or forever. A sign of tiredness.

Nietzsche openly rejected ideals, with one exception: Thus spoke Zarathustra should be a counter-ideal to the priestly ascetic ideal. So, it was meant for the tired people who would eventually change sides. Like N said once “who do I hate most? the socialist rabble who don’t let the worker live in his small world”. So I understand TSZ, as a call for this small-world-workers to change sides … a book for all.

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This is a subtle but important distinction and one that is also demonstrably true

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Nietzsche argues againt submitting to foreign ideals. Once you understand that submission implies lack of ideals, since to submit one must be dominated by fear, you will understand that these people are no genuine idealists at all.

You still fail to make a distinction between idealism and idealistic expectations.

It is realists and the so-called “idealists” who are dominated by fear, not genuine idealists. You do not understand this because you are stuck within the dichotomy of realistic slaves vs idealistic slaves. This is because you yourself are a slave.

The idea that ideals should be “re-connected” to reality is invented by nihilists.

Nihilism does not seek to remain dualistic about reality and ideals. Rather, it seeks to become monistic about it. This is done by equalizing the real with the ideal such that the ideal is no longer anything other than what is permitted by natural selection, or by insisting that the real is already ideal or that it will become ideal on its own.

You are clueless.

Courage lies beyond realism, not within it. What you call courage is in actuality cowardly courage.

Courage means resisting actions in order to remain true to your ideals (which, according to Aryan mythology, are deeply rooted in one’s past.)

Your “courage” which is in actuality cowardly courage means submitting to every little fact.

This is a herding tactic that I explained earlier. Jews present facts to people in order to herd them. Goys think they are being realistic for observing so much, for accumulating so much knowledge, and for going through so much pain, but in reality, they are being herded – their courage is of cowardly kind.

The courageous person is not “realistic”. Jews and other slaves are “realistic”. They are the ones calculating every single move before acting.

This is not to say that idealists are not realistic. It is to say that idealists do not submit to every fact that is presented to them. Instead, they control the entire process, and have no problem with being uninformed. You, unfortunately, being dominated by fear cannot understand this.

The fact that realistic nihilists are greedy about knowledge means that in comparison, idealists are less realistic.

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People like Oh Fortunae, who are full of youthful enthusiasm, should leave KTS and head over to Aryanism.net and join their team.

It is pointless to waste one’s youthful enthusiasm on someone as lethargic as Satyr. Satyr is no leader, even though technically he is a leader. He is no leader in the sense that he is a terrible leader, but he is a leader in the sense that he attracts people who follow him. He will deny the responsibility by claiming that he never wanted to be a leader in the first place, but that’s only to prove what a Gentile he is. If people follow you, you are a leader, and whatever they do as a consequence of trying to emulate your behavior will be your responsibility. Noone cares whether you want to lead or not.

Satyr suffocates enthusiasm, because he fears enthusiasm, and the more time you spend with him, the more likely it is for you to become yet another Boromir.

He promotes Jewish values – egoism on multiple levels – disparaging youthful enthusiasm as “a need for father figure.”

He wants you to have no idols.

He will use Nietzsche against people who idolize Nietzsche, insisting that Nietzsche demanded that they do not idolize him.

This is, of course, ridiculous. Whether Nietzsche said it or not is irrelevant.

He would enter into petty contests with folks like Jakob and Sauwelios for the sole purpose of satisfying his own ego. The fact that he attacks them for wrong reasons is a proof that he is not interested in anything other than defending his own concealed (because publicly he will deny them) feelings of superiority.

For example, he would attack Sauwelios on the grounds that he still idolizes Nietzsche, implying that a man in his 30’s or 40’s should be ashamed for still having idols. This also implies that it would be better for him to give up on idolizing people than to still idolize, which is, of course, wrong. A man in his early 50’s with no ideals whatsoever (i.e. Satyr) is inferior to a man in his 30’s who has retained that youthful enthusiasm that motivates him to seek idols.

In short, he is prone to engaging in petty contests over who is “superior” to whom, without any regard for how meaningful these contests are (they are completely meaningless, the only point being to defend one’s feelings of superiority.)

We need to form Aryanism.net team that will oppose KTS team. I propose new name for them: KT Gentiles. They are Know Thyself Gentiles who are dominated by the fear of not knowing themselves. This is the fear of being psychoanalyzed by other people. This is why they spend their entire lives on trying to “know themselves”. In their spare time, they psychoanalyze others by “writing fictions” as Jakob says (triggering fears into others by projecting their own fears onto them – fear-mongering.)

Trixie was right. They are “meaning making”.

We will welcome anyone in our team provided that they agree with our values. We will also welcome Boromirs such as Arbiter of Change provided that they admit to their mistakes. Even people like Erik will be welcomed provided that they can demonstrate they can free themselves from unnecessary hyper-masculine baggage. This will be very useful against KT Gentiles.

We have to help people free themselves from the domination of fear, and consequently, help them get rid of all the unnecessary pretensions that have plagued them.

We must emphasize: there is no shame in being mistaken. There is no shame in admitting to being inconsistent, contradictory, pretentious and youthful in your spirit. To the contrary! It is those who refuse to admit to making mistakes, being inconsistent, contradictory, pretentious, in short, those who are old in spirit, it is those who should be ashamed of themselves.

If this propaganda war is to take off, we will have to make use of those who are not on our side but who can nonetheless spot the flaws in KT Gentiles. Since we are youthful and simple in spirit, fighting on our own won’t work. We need numbers. And what better way to do so than to expose that even Jews and Gentiles can spot the mistakes of KT Gentiles?

We will take what people like Jakob, Sauwelios, JSS, iambiguous and many others say against KT Gentiles, use those statements that are correct and them show them to KT Gentiles who refuse to see their truthfulness. If necessary, we will even explain how they are correct by removing any trivial mistakes.

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Jew-Christians and Nihilists, listen to this simplicity now.

A “realistic ideal” is one that reconnects the idea, with reality. If the goal, the dream, the ideal is realistic then it is more probable than one that is unrealistic.

Like jumping off a cliff, believing you can fly, is improbable and will result in your falling death. Nihilism is self-negating, self-hating, and self-defeating this way.

Now, your inferior brains will want to obfuscate and confuse this simplicity. Because nihilism depends on breaking and separating the real and the ideal into two distinct realms. Dualists. Dualism. This is what most of you are. You refuse to reunify reality and idealism. You refuse to reconnect them. Instead you live in the human zoo, civilization, the matrix, your solipsistic bubble dream-worlds that need to be popped. You are asleep, for your whole lives, mental slaves. Because you only live in the fantasy, child’s realm. Your mental and spiritual developments are stunted, retarded. Spiritually retarded.

This is why the majority of humans are fools, and remain fools, never becoming wiser. Never becoming wise. Never truly “doing” philosophy. Your attempts at philosophy are childish at best.

Plato’s theory of forum, and “ideal realm”, was not nihilistic. It was not a disconnect from reality, like Nihilists and jew-christians propose.

Geometry is one of the first orders of natural sciences, from the Pythagorean cult. Mathematics, when it was invented (by my European ancestors, pagans), represents even today the unification between the physical world of objects and their “perfect forms” as finite shapes.

This is just a drop of wisdom from my beaker, from my deep wellspring.

You fools are all wrong. Completely wrong. Begin to learn. Quit being dishonest with yourselves.

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You are denying the fact that I have already covered what you are saying and that several – and I really mean several not just few – posts ago, thus, it is you, not me, who is denying reality.

You are a sad little self-referential creature.

You are a broken record that is repeating its nihilistic tune over and over and over again without ever trying to adapt to what I am saying.

You are speaking of mundane, pragmatic matters. There is absolutely nothing deep about what you’re saying, nothing philosophical at all, you are just a sad lonely asocial soul stuck in the philosophical autism, un-willing to lift his head out of the sand and look at the big picture.

Unlike you, who has convinced himself of being a philosopher-king, I have no philosophical pretensions. In fact, I am not even doing any philosophy, this is not philosophy, this is politics.

You might think this gives you an edge, but in reality, it really only means that you are lost, stuck in matters that are of extremely low importance.

Philosophy comes after politics and it is never – it never becomes – more important than politics.

The moment someone exposes you for what you are you freak out into denial manifesting itself outwardly as hyper-masculine shit-talking defensive posturing.

You are a very well known for this.

I still remember that exchange you had with Carpophorus. It still gives me good laughs.

“Women are an entirely different species . . .”
– Wizard

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Boy,

Philosophy predicates politics. Nature is a war of all against all. Artifice is peace, utopian idealism, which you openly advocate throughout this thread. Your utopian, christian idealism, has no grounding, thus making your ideals improbable, approaching impossibility. On top of this, you lack the willpower, the strength, the courage, the conviction, to render ideals back down to reality. To make an ideal real.

This is the key to Will to Power. Embrace Nietzsche, boy, heed the call.

Just remember this.

A female can reproduce herself, give birth to herself (mother to daughter). But a male, cannot. A father does not give birth to his own son. Thus all males must depend upon females to reproduce and recreate yourself, as a male.

This is why Man, as male, is distinct, separated, more distant from nature, more “Artificial” than women. This is why people innately re-connect females and women with “Nature”. It’s not a fluke nor a coincidence.

Gender is not equal, nor should it be. You agree, don’t you? Admit it.

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How was Plato not nihilistic? If his Sun was truth, then there is no way for you to change anything claiming that if could be better. How could you know something if sun is truth?

If you say “aristocracy is truth”, like Nietzsche in his GM I, then it is an idea, but no ideal. How can aristocracy be an ideal? Ideal is never something that exists or did exist. It’s the land of Oz.

Ideal, the need to rest longer from reality.

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To Magnus Anderson:

You give Satyr far too much credence. It appears that he has been successful in getting inside your head, which by the way is his ultimate aim and the moment you are ensnared he is flooded with disdain for you allowing this.

It appears you have fear of him, which may have been created from some perceived loss of face (ego). You don’t need an army to overcome Satyr.

You move on without him.

“Tell your heart that the fear of suffering is worse than the suffering itself. And no heart has ever suffered when it goes in search of its dream”.

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You are not helping the cause, Maiden, you are making it worse, you are making it worse because you are implying that retaliation is an unnecessary thing, which it isn’t. To the contrary, it’s very necessary.

In the grand scheme of things, retaliating to Satyr and other Internet Boromirs is of lesser importance, that is true, but since I have time, as I’ve already explained, I can do it.

My fear is a genuine fear – he is corrupting youth. He is turning everyone into yet another Boromir.

This isn’t a consequence of some perceived loss of face. I have lost no face. There is no such a perception on my part. Nor is that true in reality. See, you’re insulting me without even knowing that you’re doing it.

And this isn’t only about Satyr. This is about Boromirs in general.

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You are not so clear on one aspect of this. If your departure from the Forum was as benign as you indicate, your feelings are not running parallel with this.

I have no intention of insulting you, I greatly admire your individuality, but there is no place for this on KT.

The only people who will stay there are the malleable ones, who need to follow and there are people who choose this.

To satisfy Satyr’s narcissistic vampire NEEDS, is to acknowledge the belief he is powerful and even if you do not, he will still believe you think it. Nothing positive will come out of that. Why? Because in battle there is no honour for them to defend and they fight dirty.

As far as I am concerned, I have to feel at least that my enemy is worthy of my respect before I enter into battle, a battle he NEEDS and salivates for.

Irrespective of what I have written, I will respect your decision.