Nietzschean definition of nihilism.

your idea of conflicting goods is imaginary, we all need the same base essentials.

Sorry about unconscious veronica salts, entitled rich people who hog all of the essentials, like fat kids who eat 3 burgers a day because they dont give a shit about the suffering of cows. But the bare essentials are the same, goods and good.

Abortion isnt a conflicting good, life goes on either way, quality of life doesnt decline either way. The vast majority of conflict is imagined, due to your devils advocate stance of trying to argue that rich and entitled people who fuck up the planet, could potentially be the good guys and good honest people who live lightly, are potentially the bad guys. The delusion is your own, not shared with concrete reality, which says that living lightly is inherently better than buying conspicuous consumption and fucking up the planet.

I do not feel motivated to read, let alone to respond, to your posts Jerkey. This is because your posts are convoluted. You remind me of Orbie/Orb/Obe.

The phrase “noble beast” is a contradiction in terms. Nobles are not beasts and beasts are not nobles.

The type “noble beast” refers to an impure type that is a mixture of noble (Aryan) and beastly (Gentile) elements with beastly (Gentile) elements being dominant.

There is a hierarchy of forces in every phenomenon. The mere presence of noble traits in one’s conduct does not make one a noble. Rather, it is the position of these noble traits within one’s hierarchy of forces that does so. If one’s noble traits are subservient and not dominant, then we cannot really speak of nobles (Aryans), but of beasts (Gentiles) and sorcerers (Jews) who make use of inherited nobility for their own ignoble ends.

The words we use and the thoughts we think betray our origins. This applies more generally, to all of our conduct. There are three fundamental races within which we can categorize all of our behavior. These are the Aryan race (farmer archetype), the Gentile race (hunter archetype) and the Jewish race (herder archetype.)

The general populace belongs to the raceless type we call Sheeple. These are the people who can be said to have an origin in all of the fundamental races, but who, due to lack of willpower, cannot stay loyal to any of these races. Hence, they require external force to discipline themselves. These are the people who simply submit to whatever type is dominant at the time.

Other people may be racially pure or impure, but what is certain is that they strive to remain loyal to a single race – they strive to purify themselves.

Among those who strive to preserve a type, there are those types that strive to remain loyal to an ugly mixture of disparate elements. These are mongrel types.

A “noble beast”, I believe, belongs to such a type for the simple reason that it strives to preserve a mixture of two incompatible types, the type “noble” and the type “beast”. This is in contrast to pure beastly type that views nobility as a weakness that has to be eliminated, as well as to pure noble type that views barbarism as an ugliness that has to be eliminated.

There is no doubt that Nietzsche wasn’t a pure Gentile, but it is still uncertain whether he was an Aryan, a mongrel, or as some insist, a Jew.

Plenty of his ideas are Gentile in origin.

WTP, or the idea that everything strives for power, belongs to Gentiles. Both Gentiles and Jews strive for power, the only difference being that they use different means to do so. Gentiles use direct (honest) means, whereas Jews use indirect (dishonest) means. Gentiles are honest about their “will to power”, whereas Jews are dishonest about it.

Nietzsche did not oppose himself to Jews, but he did oppose himself to Judeo-Christianity and other forms of indirect forms of power. This plus the fact that he praised barbarians reveals that his general train of thought is of Gentile origin.

On the other hand, his “ontologization” of will to power is of Jewish origin. It is a consequence of his un-willingness to admit that one’s WTP is only one’s own and not necessarily that of the other. He wanted to believe that EVERYONE strives for power in order to comfort himself and make himself feel superior in relation to those who supposedly conceal their own WTP.

This is to hide the fact that people diverge in what they strive for and to blur the distinction between order and power. You will see that many Gentiles – particularly the mongrel types – insist that power and order are one and the same thing.

Whoever reads my posts knows that I refer to Jakob and Sauwelios – the philosophers of Value Ontology – as Value Ontolog-ers even though the correct term is Value Ontolog-ists. This is no accident.

The suffix -ist added to a noun denotes a person whose profession is that noun. On the other hand, the suffix -er added to a verb denotes a person who does an action indicated by that verb.

So, ontoligist is someone whose profession is ontology, whereas ontologer is someone who “ontologizes” something.

To ontologize means to turn something into ontology and that means to turn something into a fundamental principle that guides being (the word ontos is of Greek origin and it means being.)

Ontologers are similar to psychologers, but unlike psychologers who limit themselves to human mind, ontologers deal with the entirety of one’s being. Hence, they are more powerful.

The main difference between Gentiles (hunters) and Jews (herders) is that Gentiles use physical strength to enslave others whereas Jews use intellect.

In order to make this clear, I have to define the concept of slavery. It is important to note that slavery never refers to physical slavery, as in, being physically limited to act. Rather, slavery always refers to spiritual slavery, and that means to the inability to chase after one’s hopes and dreams that is caused by fear.

To enslave a man means to make him afraid to such an extent that he is no longer chasing after his hopes and dreams.

This is understandable: slavemasters need slaves i.e. people who will do what is of use to slavemasters, not what they themselves want to do.

What does fear do to a man? It detaches him from his hopes and dreams – from his ideal – and forces him to do something else. On biological level, it splits his blood flow instead of focusing it.

Gentiles use physical violence to make people afraid. Jews, on the other hand, use representations.

In both cases, a problem is created and a false solution is provided. Both herd, the only difference is that Gentiles use brute force whereas Jews use much more sophisticated methods.

Ontologers are Jews who herd other people by the means of ontologization of their own motives. By ontologizing their motives – by separating them from the spiritual realm and anchoring them in the material realm – they enslave everyone to their own motives.

The first step is to deny the existence of “free will”. With this move, the spiritual realm is completely concealed and the only realm that remains visible is the material realm. This is achieved by making people afraid of spirituality. Whoever dares to disregard the material realm (the so-called reality) is severely punished which is then (mis)interpreted as a proof that the material realm must not be transcended.

The second step is to provide a useful interpretation of the material realm. The ontologer simply abstracts his motives from himself and ascribes them to the material realm.

Whoever dares to will anything other than what the ontologer ascribed to the material realm is then told he is likely to fail – and embarassingly so. Nothing scares Goyim more than fear of failure.

Sam Harris (Jew) is working on ontologizing morality. Soon, you won’t be able to choose morality on your own without Sam trying to make sure you are aware of all the possible negative consequences that you might face. He will finish his lesson with “are you really sure you want to do this?”

Sigmund Freud (Jew) ontologized sex. He made popular the idea that if you abstain from sex you will become mentally ill.

Friedrich Nietzsche (Jew?) ontologized power. He made popular the idea that everyone strives for power and that those who do not are merely self-loathing nihilists.

Charles Darwin (Jew?) ontologized survival. He made popular the idea that whoever does not strive to survive and reproduce is “unfit”.

Jakob Milikowski (Jew) ontologized value. He made popular the idea that values are determined unconsciously and that those who determine them consciously are nihilists.

This is all interesting, isn’t it?

Magnus, I love your ability to make things clear.

Badda bing, badda boom. Aryans are farmers, sorcerers are jews. When you say it like this, it all makes sense. Which is basically the oppoisite of jerkey’s posts. Whenever I read it, it just seems so convoluted. I am not sure if he is trying to be intentionally confusing, or merely it is the product of his peculiar mind. Whenever I read his posts, I have to take it really slow. Noone else on the Genius Forums seems to be that convoluted, for example Kelly Jones, David Quinn, Kevin and Diebert are much more clear and easier to read. Even Orbie is easier to read. Whenever I read a jerkey post, I feel like I am reaching my mental limits, and that I need a mind of an alien to begin to read his works at a fast pace.

My motives when I preach against the illusion of free-will, is not to enslave, but to liberate people from mental slavery. free-will contributes to egoism and the idea of self. When you realise there is no such thing, you realise we are all part of the universal machine. Now I do not also bundle my teachings as saying spirituality must be discarded, I believe even God cannot have freewill as freewill is a logically impossible concept.

Magnus suffers from mental illness, in the same way you do Ultimate Philosophy. The problem is that either of you suffer from different types of flaws. Magnus has obsessive compulsion and his mind is wrapped by jewry, owned and controlled by jewry. Magnus is an ultimate “Goy”, a mind slave to jews. He probably was born in germany or something, as this is a condition I’ve seen from their brainwashed youth. Ultimate Philosophy, your mental illness revolves around your lack of identity and structure, not even determining if you’re male or female. You haven’t figured out yet what makes a male male, or a female female. Ultimate Philosophy, you have intellectual potential, unlike most others on this website. Your active posting and defining of terms demonstrates philosophical capability that almost none else share. However you are unfocused and still a child mind, but this is Magnus’ immature state too.

It’s mentally retarded to make a scale out of “Gentile—Jew” without knowing what either of these types are. It’s incorrect and false to declare that “all intelligent people are jewish” as if intelligence were a negative trait. Sometimes intelligence is negative, but other times not. Intelligence is mostly a negative trait when interacting with others socially. High intelligent types despise low intelligent types, and vice versa, when it comes to socializing. Because a low intelligent person is constantly reminded, internally and privately if not outspoken, about this different level of intelligence. Quite frankly, it’s embarrassing for low intelligent types to be in the presence and company of a higher intelligence. This would even apply to domesticated animals in the presence of some highly intelligent humans. Animals are instinctive and their modus operandi revolves around territorial disputes and means to access resources and food. For low intelligent humans, this is the same MO.

Magnus is wrong because not all intelligent people are jews, as if being jewish were a requirement for intelligence? The fact that Magnus believes this, only reveals to everybody how brainwashed and pathetic he is as an individual. He is obsessed with Aryan-ism, which becomes obvious. As if Aryans, natural leaders who are not (genetically) jewish, must be unintelligent? No, even using Magnus’ terminology and his definitions, Aryans would be of higher intelligence, capable of far more than average people. Remember, I personally, propose balance. There must not be too much intelligence without ignorance, not too much brains without brawns. Aryanism would then be, the highest quality of both.

A hunter and a farmer in one. A warrior and a poet in one. An artist and a brick layer in one.

Magnus’ obsession with jews, gentiles, and aryanism is off topic from this thread. He hasn’t connected his own mental illness, his obsessed compulsion, with the thread topic. He hasn’t explained how nihilism and nietzsche fits in here.

Other people, including me, have done so. Judaism, christianity, and islam are nihilistic religions because they are life denying, not life affirming ideologies. They are built on lies and slavish compulsions. The religious followers are immoral by their abandonment toward truth, justice, love, and higher ideals. Instead the followers, the “flock”, do as they are told, and believe as they are preached to. They are mind slaves, the masses, the majority population of earth, “The Democracy”. Now whether their sects, sections of abrhamic doctrines are jewish, christian, or moslem, makes relatively little difference. You should not conflate the religious identities with political topics, like nihilism, in the way Magnus does.

Allow Magnus to be enthralled and enslaved by his own mental complexes. Do not help him. Let him remain lost. He does not want clarity. He does not want “Aryan-ism”. He does not want a higher ideal, despite all his childish thrashing about. He is just a child mind, probably with lower potential than yours.

I’ve tried to identify my core “true” self, but after reading Quinn I realise this is reification. My self is my inner mind, the only way to accurately describe it would be to make a movie detailiing every single thought I had since I was born. That is my True Self. Anything else is meaning making. Brainwashing or not, Quinns words are the absolute truth, at least in this matter.

Mathematics is maximum compression, words are medium compression. When we define our selves with words we lose some truth.
When magnus says all jews are sorcerers and aryans are farmers, he used maximum compression techniques, even worse than mathematics, but it made the truth easy to understand, like a moment of clarity, 1+1=2, mathematics. Now obviously Aryans are mix of both hunters farmers and sorcerers, and would be retarded to live ones live never engaging in witchcraft, just so one could avoid being similar to the jew. Thats when you have to look at life like an RPG game, we are all farmers hunters mages druids and sorcerers, we can all use their cards, like Hearthstone, except Jews typically have more sorcery cards and aryans typically have more mage and farmer cards.

I am unfocused and lethargic because the soup I just at had autolyzed yeast extract, disodium isonate and disodium gluonate. What meaning do you make when you say I have a child mind? What do you mean by that? And what is the exact conditions I will meet when I don’t have a child mind? What is not a child mind? And what are the exact things will I understand when I don’t have a child mind?

Focus, goals, and a specific sense of self, distinct and separated from others, is a sign of maturity. An “adult mentality”. As age occurs more and more, adults become wiser to the fact of limited time in life. Life is finite for any given, individual organism. Yet life is infinite for the “whole”, the larger specie and group. The individual, the ego dies, but the group, the “god mentality” does not. The death of one individual is common. The extinction of a species is rare.

As such, age, wisdom, and maturity will continue to increase any person’s value and awareness of time. You will be forced to choose, and your mind forced to focus, on which types of thoughts, memories, feelings, and experiences are most important to you, as you run out of time day by day, week by week, year by year, and the end approaches. Children do not even conceive of such a thing. Children are kept away from death, “evil”, “negativity”, truth, and such.

Jesus was a great philosopher of his time, he said only children enter in the kingdom of heaven, and most rich people do not go to heaven as some part of some cameltoe thing. The power of a childmind should not be understimated.

Definining goals, self, purpose, etc. that is all meaning making. It does not help find truth it is untruth, and most of the goals humans make are idiotic. Now a handful of people benefit from this, but they are not beginners minds.

It is never the concept of “free will” that enslaves people. The fact that people think so only goes to prove how enslaved they are.

Nothing more splendid than a slave who thinks he has freed himself from slavery.

People are utterly incapable of understanding the nature of their problems. They never, ever find real solutions. Instead, they simply switch from one false solution to another.

And so is this fad that the concept of “free will” enslaves a false solution.

You have to understand that most herders are unconscious of their herding.

There is no talking to Wizard. He’s a self-absorbed ego-dominated imbecile who thinks what he thinks simply because he got used to thinking that way. He’s so rigid you might as well starting talking to dogs.

If you want to know how degenerate he is, just take a peek at his numerous topics where he declares that he’s going to take his “philosophy” off the public forums and restrict it to those few who deserve it.

You can’t make this stuff. He really believes he’s some philosopher, and not only a philosopher, but also a GREAT philosopher who will be remembered after he dies. This is how pathetic he is.

And this moron with completely unrealistic expectations is going to teach me about the problem of unrealistic expectations.

As I said, you can’t make this stuff up.

People can talk to me. But they’ve learned not to bring me false premises and dishonesty. If somebody is honest about philosophy, about learning, and about exploring existence, then they come to me as a potential ally and friend, never as an enemy. However most people are not this way. Most people are cowards, or simply stupid. They either fear the great unknown, or are simply unable to navigate it. Those with more promise, more potential, seek me and my type out naturally. We are a type who never shies away from confronting the greatest mysteries of life.

For example, define reality, and define your ideals, your goals, as discussed already in this thread. If your ideals are brought back down to reality, grounded, then they become revealed. What great ideals do you have? Are they realistic? If they are not, then is it not nihilistic to dwell inside a dream world solipsist bubble, a childish utopia inside your head?

Magnus shied away from this, possibly because his idealism is at stake on this point. He doesn’t want his childish innocence and purity punctured, and then penetrated repeatedly. He doesn’t want to get mind fucked, just yet?

But that’s the real risk of philosophy, isn’t it? There’s something actually at risk, when being honest with philosophy, when laying your ideas and thoughts out in the open for others to judge, to accept or reject.

Magnus, what inside your mind is worth accepting, by another? Seriously.

1001 and Magnus:

The convolution in fact is rather simple, if taken more than at it’s face value, it begets no simple compression, of forces at hand. No wonder, because
the forces are no simple ontological trysts, they are based on foreward looking or backward looking life processes.

So far, hope, so good. I am merely interpreting the above posted objections. What are effects of
compression or, decompression? Since ego was
brought in, in a way, that has not been introduced in a backward looking method, the decompression, in psychological terms-de compensation, seeks validity
in discerning identifiable traits.

The point is, that since the ego is a foreward looking , goal oriented, mystique laden product of post tribal
behavior come idea, whose power consists of the
origin of tragedy, (tragedy in the sense of this method of identifying ,by compression of opposing forces), the will as a representation is primarily
based on social forces, and not in any discernment of nobility, either of the savage, or the entitled.
The convolution arises from similarly from this anomalie, and not through individual representation.
This begets the very strength of the will, this anomaly between it and its representation, whereby the will is distilled, as if seeking a goal, a resolution, of the kind that only more and more ‘compression’
can afford. There will be a point in this de-
compensation, where, the slave is not really unwilling to follow, but simply breaks away, out of fear.(of not following knowingly). He prefers to travel on well worn paths.

MA, I don’t know where did you pick up your latest theories and definitions, but Jews are an agricultural nation, just as Nietzsche admits in the Antichrist and which is also acknowledged by Vollgraff in his division of the nations. Aryans as farmer type? This is so ridiculous.
Didn’t Shudras do all the farming in India?

Magnus Anderson said they were herders, so it follows that they were farmers, since herding is part of farming.

Jews were farmers in Babylon. In the second century BC they were traders.
3 generations back the ancestors of MA could be only farmers.