No, it’s Mithras/Thor, not Beowulf. Thor always at least has a horse, weapon, and crow, and same hat on. I learned that from the professors work I saw online. I first posted on the matter on UNRV under my user name Onasander.
As to whether or not Thor and Beowulf mingled, I don’t really know. I know only about Beowulf’s influence on English history and Hitler. You ask a very good question in a sense, and will have to ask you to ask me this again in a few years, I just lack archaeological evidence, as well as historical evidence, one way or another.
Its one thing to say Beowulf was based in Denmark, and the Roman Auxillaries too we’re based there… but we are talking about a few hundred year gap, and the imagery and subject matter in Beowulf doesn’t much match it. Thor does.
Viking sagas mix up details all the time, I’ve been reading them for nearly twenty years, it’s a mess for any historian to flesh out real history from the sagas, saying which is pure, which is hybrid. Modern TV historical dramas, such as the Vikings, make it a absolute pain in the ass too… it barely pays attention to what actually happened, and they randomly slap far flung names together into impossible families. I’ve given up on the Vikings after season 3. But for a lot of people, that is exactly how things went down. I gotta blame D. W. Griffith’s old black and white movie “Intolerance” for inserting counterculture identity politics into historical drama.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intolerance_(film
m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoaF8_dlqQA
Cardinal Woolsey slitting his throat in The Tudors (never fucking happened, he died of diarreah) more or less played to the militant Protestant prejudices of England, that survive to today… they ran the risk of making Woolsey look like a symphatetic Machiavellian statesmen who though flawed, served his state, so had to make him die nasty.
I’m wondering how they will handle Cromwell’s genocide if they ever make a series about him… BBC mostly plays for a Protestant crowd, but doing that stunt again might resurrect the conflict in Northern Ireland.
They do this too in Asia, it’s happened every dynasty to this day with Romance of the Three Kingdoms… the collapse of the Han Empire over a couple generations lead to a breakup of three states, but ALL lost the war for reunification, which is ironic as fuck. End result is, given the ruling dynasties that came later didn’t descend from any of those states, scholars have been allowed to be as partisan as fuck in picking their favorite factions. Each dynasty asserts a ideological preference to which faction was most justified.
Sane in Korea, Queen Seon Duk dropped some terrible, less than historic hints that Gaya Policy = South Korea.
Its really fucking horrible, but because TV shows have far more competition, they need more loyal core audience willing to literally buy their episodes… they gotta fit history into their core audience’s prejudices and misconceptions.
So half of the Vikings TV show is more of a exposition of modern Neopagan and Heathen misconceptions of how the Vikings reacted to Christianity, instead of how they actually reacted, which I think is far funnier actually. We keep diluting the historical record by engraining modern counter cultural prejudices into and over what actually occurred. Not as bad as forum member Arminius’ take on history, but someday we’ll get there. Its gonna be like the Dirisaurs and Charlie Chaplin leading the Basis against the “Un” in Idiocracy eventually.
I could also blame Nietzsche, but he at least apologized for The Birth of Tragedy. Freud didn’t for his bad historical investigations. We still have a lot of God aweful rotten Comparative Mythology works floating around. Modern works have to spend the first few chapters slamming and disavowing late 19th Century and 20th century works. I’m currently reading “The Twin Horse Gods: The Dioskouroi in Mythologies in the Ancient World”, he seems rather embarrassed by his predeccessors. I haven’t seen him mention Jung’s theory on them yet, so don’t know if he is even aware of it… he’d probably have a heart attack.
A lot of comparative mythologies have tried to make Jesus out to be every religion except Christianity… we have textual information and Biblical evidence supported by later findings regarding Roman appointment to offices, people get increasingly obsessed on retarded stuff. Like… the whole “The Flavians Invented Christianity” idea most solid evidence is Jesus Christ and Julius Caesar have the same initials… so are really the same person… they are very popular, most historians, even anti Christian ones won’t touch it.
Likewise, the Kaaba in Mecca originally being a Hindu shrine, Chinese created the civilizations in Mexico because of Jade… list goes on. You can find videos on each, people post that crap on the basis “You believe what you believe, and Ill believe what I believe”, but this is shitty and assinine. Its not a responsible approach to history, doesn’t allow peer review, doesn’t recognize conflicting facts, and asserts farther than the facts can support.
You can more or less see why I get so hard on Arminius for his Anti-German stance… any history that tries to make German history idealized in a sense other than what it was is Anti-German, as your rejecting what actually occurred for something alien. Its forcing identity politics upon history. Don’t fucking do it. Its justifiable to allude to sound history as part of your stance, your history, reason for your views, but it needs to stand on the facts.
Example… we don’t expect The Tea Party to be a clone historically of The Boston Tea Party, but if you use that name, some relation should exist ideologically, and when you use historical statements and symbols, it should hold some concrete reference, and meaningfully coincide. If not, it becomes a offensive mockery. Most manage this, a few nitwits stumble around with flags and slogans who obvious never opened a history book.
The one exception… I don’t drink, so don’t have much use for St. Patrick’s Day, but love seeing every race and nationality get hammered without a Irishman in sight. Again, no concept of history or proper religious and ethnic identity, but it amusing none the less, and the Irish seem rather accepting of the phenomena. Unless your a Irish Midget, then it’s a terrible day of people kidnapping you, shaking you down for gold.
