nihilism

Greenfuse:

So, your post professed some beliefs of yours.
The intrinsic self syndrome.
which then heads to--------->

Nope. Not in regard to such things as moral and political value judgments, God and religion, conflicting goods, etc. Instead, I make the distinction here between those things in the either/or world that seem applicable to all of us objectively – the laws of nature, mathematics, the empirical world, logic etc. – and those things that devolve instead into what can become fiercely contested “one of us” [the good guys] vs. “one of them” [the bad guys] mentality. Indeed, for some here that includes only those who are of the right color or ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation.

Oh yeah:

What’s crucial from my own frame of mind here is 1] the assumption that we live in a free will world 2] the assumption that there is no God and 3] the assumption that anything that any of us profess to believe about any ot this is inherently embedded in The Gap, in Rummy’s Rule and in the Benjamin Button Syndrome.

None of which I can demonstrate myself.

On the other hand, any number of moral objectivists among us predicate their own assessments on the assumption that they are indeed wholly in sync with this deep down inside them Intrinsic Self – the Real Me – that enables them to grasp The Right Thing To Do. Mostly through Gods and Goddesses or theoretical constructs, or assumptions about genes and memes.

There are objectivists who do change their minds. Me, for example, over and over and over again. I don’t argue myself that there is no God, or no moral obligations, or no “best of all possible worlds” political ideology, or no “most rational” assessment of nature vs. nurture. I merely ask those who “here and now” embody one or another One True Path to Enlightenment – and immortality and salvation? – to bring their own philosophical/theoretical/spiritual assumptions down to Earth and in regard to a moral conflagration of note, explore our respective moral philosophies given particular contexts.

My “aim” here revolves around what I construe to be my “win/win” frame of mind. On the one hand, I can never rule out the possibility that someone might succeed in enabling me to yank myself up out of the philosophical hole I have my “self” down into here:

On the other hand, I might be able to convince them it really is entirely reasonable to think about the human condition in a No God world as “I” do, from a fractured and fragmented moral respective and embedded in an essentially meaningless universe that ends for each of us one by one in oblivion.