Nihilsim, Absurdism and Existentialism

[Cyrene]

I don’t even fully understand what the Existentialism is trying to claim, at times it seems as if to suggest personal standards to find meaning at life, b ut at the same time is somehow a reaction to rationalism/empiricism.

Is it the claim that minds manipulate their own ‘truth’?

[AbyssOfLife]

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[Cyrene]

@AbyssOfLife

@Cyrene

I don’t even fully understand what the Existentialism is trying to claim, at times it seems as if to suggest personal standards to find meaning at life, b ut at the same time is somehow a reaction to rationalism/empiricism.

Is it the claim that minds manipulate their own ‘truth’?

The simplest version would be that existence comes first, and then a Being creates their essence. The Being creates their own purpose and meaning of life, thus creates their own nature.

What existence that of the organism? What essence? What do they think essence means? (defined by thought and not biology?) What do you mean by ‘nature’ or ‘meaning’

It’s the claim that, in the absence of objective meaning and purpose, it is possible and even humanly necessary that people make their own meaning and purpose.

I don’t understand how its a reaction to empiricism/rationality then. People can define the meaning of their lives on personal standards and never decide to randomly jaunt into whimsical belief. Is that what it tries to justify?

[AbyssOfLife]

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[Cyrene]

@AbyssOfLife

To first understand you have to grasp the idea that they are very concrete in what they believe. They do not uphold abstract concepts or ideas. To ask a question in the abstract will do you no good. If you want to better understand try reading some of Dostoevsky and Tolstoy.

In their books the main character does not believe logic and reasoning gives them a truth, existence does. By this I mean, in their books the character finds the truth through the concreteness of life. Existence holds the truth and by living life the truth is revealed to them.

I understand the basic propositions to some extent, I really don’t understand how its supposed to make any real sense. Its never properly defined as to how and why these things are true.

[AbyssOfLife]

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[Cyrene]

but abstraction like that is inherent to human nature and concreteness and etc? it seems like a bunch of fuzzily defined concepts with fuzzily defined explanations.

[AbyssOfLife]

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[Max_R_Bollinger]

A definition from another is arbitrary. It is the lack of categorization that keeps one thinking.

Rejoice in what you are not.