# Nothing Escapes...
**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428
**Category:** Non-Philosophical Chat
**Created:** [June 1, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428 "2008-06-01T23:25:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@realunoriginal](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/realunoriginal)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/1 "2008-06-01T23:25:29Z")
Nothing escapes The Age of Reason.
[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap\_on\_go\_pr\_wh/bush\_mcclellan\_book](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_mcclellan_book)
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> I think the president should have stood by his word…
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### Author:  [@Eclipse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Eclipse)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/2 "2008-06-02T00:19:05Z")
I’m really glad McClellan wrote this book. I pray it actually does SOMETHING. Of course Bush himself can stand up in front of the country, and directly say “I am a liar, and you should listen to nothing I say. You should not agree with the actions of my administration.”, and still nothing would change.
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### Author:  [@realunoriginal](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/realunoriginal)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/3 "2008-06-02T00:29:43Z")
> [@Eclipse](#):
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> I’m really glad McClellan wrote this book. I pray it actually does SOMETHING. Of course Bush himself can stand up in front of the country, and directly say “I am a liar, and you should listen to nothing I say. You should not agree with the actions of my administration.”, and still nothing would change.
Everything has an effect on reality. I know for a fact his “reason” will do something.
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### Author:  [@Eclipse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Eclipse)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/4 "2008-06-02T01:25:32Z")
I think the book unfortunately is part of the plan to get McCain elected. Bush’s term is almost over, McClellan writes this book FINALLY bashing Bush’s war plan, now McCain will come along and say he has a much better plan, all the idiots in America believe him and so on.
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### Author:  [@realunoriginal](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/realunoriginal)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/5 "2008-06-02T01:32:13Z")
> [@Eclipse](#):
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> I think the book unfortunately is part of the plan to get McCain elected. Bush’s term is almost over, McClellan writes this book FINALLY bashing Bush’s war plan, now McCain will come along and say he has a much better plan, all the idiots in America believe him and so on.
Rupert Murdoch already said he wants Obama to win, so Obama will in fact, win.
There is no such thing as an American Democracy; it fell some time ago–I’m not sure when yet.
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### Author:  [@Eclipse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Eclipse)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/6 "2008-06-02T02:36:31Z")
There sure as hell is an illusion of democracy, but I highly doubt the votes mean jack shit. Fucking mass media…
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### Author:  [@realunoriginal](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/realunoriginal)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/7 "2008-06-02T02:39:56Z")
> [@Eclipse](#):
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> There sure as hell is an illusion of democracy, but I highly doubt the votes mean jack shit. Fucking mass media…
People are directly controlled by information Erlir. There’s a physical formula for it.
Whoever controls the information, controls the votes, directly.
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### Author:  [@Eclipse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Eclipse)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/8 "2008-06-02T21:47:27Z")
It’s a ring of loads of money being passed around.
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### Author:  [@Joker](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Joker)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/9 "2008-06-02T22:09:17Z")
What he wrote is old news that has already passed under the bridge.
Nobody cares and noone is going to do anything about it. It’s business as usual. Nothing more.
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### Author:  [@realunoriginal](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/realunoriginal)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/10 "2008-06-02T22:22:07Z")
> [@Joker](#):
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> What he wrote is old news that has already passed under the bridge.
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> Nobody cares and noone is going to do anything about it. It’s business as usual. Nothing more.
That’s true–the status quo is maintained–but there are reasons at work that are going to undermine things from the inside-out.
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### Author:  [@Eclipse](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Eclipse)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/11 "2008-06-03T00:47:28Z")
> [@realunoriginal](#):
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> > [@Joker](#):
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> > What he wrote is old news that has already passed under the bridge.
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> > Nobody cares and noone is going to do anything about it. It’s business as usual. Nothing more.
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> That’s true–the status quo is maintained–but there are reasons at work that are going to undermine things from the inside-out.
I hope so. Might it be the Upright Citizens Brigade?!
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### Author:  [@realunoriginal](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/realunoriginal)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/nothing-escapes/21428/12 "2008-06-03T00:59:03Z")
> [@Eclipse](#):
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> I hope so. Might it be the Upright Citizens Brigade?!
Anything’s possible.