Took three hours of deliberation before the jury came back guilty.
It’s such a all these disreputable liberals are exploiting Angelic Obama’s electorial wake, in a very Chicago way, writing him illegally on Ballots or selling his Senate seat.
God bless Obama, I hope he pulls through knowing his first term was illegitimate. Perhaps he’ll grow from this shocker, setting things right by running for a third term, which would only be a second term, in the face of inevitable future fraud charges.
It’s change I can believe in. Hold in there Obama, don’t let getting found out make you glum.
Surely, if you’re ordering multiple people under you to commit fraud…you know…there’s these people walking around in the real world who know that fraud was involved, you know…there just walking around with this knowledge…right? What are they going to do? Keep it a secret forever? Just seems really stupid to me. Like, certain forms of fraud, even if people know, people won’t give a shit. Hiring someone under the table, whatever, only a twat would go and tell the government. But…this? Election fraud? For the president of the united states? Are you fucking kidding me? They’re just going to walk around forever without telling anyone?
Question: does this even really matter when more or less half of voters voted for him and half against him anyway, with or without fraud?
If it’s that fragile, then surely it’s not that big a deal that it swaps from rep to dem every few years - just as long as they get more or less equal time in power (whch they do).
And then you take into account tactical voting where you don’t even want the guy you’re voting for - you just don’t want the other guy.
And when so many people aren’t even voting at all because they’re honest enough to not get dragged into the whole disingenuous act of tactical voting - they admit they don’t really want either.
And when so many people don’t even know anything much or anything about what they’re voting for, they just got sucked in by the stereotypically based short-term hype about what republican and democrat is “supposed” to mean (regardless of practice), and the personality contest (where actual policies seem redundant to voters).
And when each party is fighting a losing battle anyway, and just blaming their faliure on the negative effects of the previous party.
Just be glad we’ve even got a facade of democracy.
Uhhhh… election fraud in a primary in Indiana? OK. But a primary in Indiana isn’t piss in a bucket in the larger national elections. Of course, you can take this single incident and loudly proclaim that it was the same in every primary in the U.S. Right? I hardly think that a primary in Indiana controlled the whole presidential election. While it’s good that the criminal acts were found and punishment meted out, it isn’t exactly an earth-shattering development in the 2012 elections… It’s almost on par with the birther bullshit as an exciting news item. But I knew that as soon as I saw the fux news link…
Often times it’s like none of you have ever read anything that isn’t from the MSM. At all.
Just doing that - taking in information you know isn’t fucking lies - you learn all this stuff fairly quickly and easily.
So you don’t have to say stupid shit like the above where you believe that just because someone knows something, it’s necessarily going to be on the news or just common knowledge. I can’t count how many times I’ve addressed this.
It’s wrong. Get it through you head. The world doesn’t work like that. You can have secrets with the public easily. No one is going to give a shit, ironically ebough because people like you will act like it couldn’t be true unless its on the MSM. This case it is, and Flannel is still stuck in denial lol.
It all starts with not watching that nonsense. Those who take this advice invaribaly say to themselves, 'Oh shit, that was literally mental poison"
All elections are frauds. Both Bush elections. Obama, probably Clinton. This is all so everyday obviously true.
You keep saying tht anything you choose to label MSM is lies and taking in information that isn’t lies is the way to go. And just how do you sort out what is lie and what isn’t? I don’t think you know as much as you pretend to know. The internet, magazines, ALL media sources are controlled by someone with an agenda - and telling the truth is just another lie. Once you’ve decided that you can’t trust this entity or that entity, you’re stuck with inventing shit. Everything is a conspiracy, right? Big Fucking Deal. The “fix” has been in for thousands of years and you think this is a new discovery? Get over yourself. You’ve got nothing new that hasn’t been said by thousands of people for hundreds of years. Instead of the clarion call of “It’s a false flag!” what do you propose to DO about it? Has it occurred to you that the real controllers love all the CT shit because it covers their quiet under-the-covers manipulations. You’re a performing puppet for the very people you call evil. Oh yeah, blame it on the illuminati, the Masons, the government, or anyone other group you point at with absolutely no actionable proof. The controllers don’t need a false flag. You make them up for them. I continue you believe you’re too intelligent to not see that you’re tilting at windmills. Wake the fuck up and start looking for real solutions instead of creating fantasy problems.
You misunderstood what I wrote. Calm down, keep talking like this and you’ll end up banned.
I think that you think that what I said means “This isn’t true.” You jumped the gun. Slow down, slow down brother, before you become a giant phallus slow down.
What I was saying was, not “Because we haven’t heard of it, it isn’t true.” Nothing I said had anything to do with the truth value of it at all. Read it again. In fact, to the contrary, my post was coming from the ASSUMPTION that it IS TRUE. If it is true, the guy who ordered them to do it was quite foolish, expecting people to keep this information a secret. That’s what I was talking about, hence me mentioning that particular guy in the very first sentence.
If you have two interpretations to choose from, you should slow down before you make a post like this. Slow down and really try to understand what’s being said.
I love how finding out that someone broke a law in politics is supposed to be some kind of charge.
No one gets to be a politician without breaking a whole lot of laws my man.
There’s a real naivety here sometimes that just blows my mind.
Bush was a cocaine user. Clinton smoked weed and ran mortgage scams. Obama is a Kenyan manchurian candidate.
It’s like a bunch of idealistic kids who still thing there’s such a thing as wholesome and clean in politics. Wait…there never was. Jimmy Carter was probably taking kickbacks.
lol what does that mean? Anyway… OK. I’m slowing down, going line by line.
This confirms I was maybe going too fast, but still right in what I said initially. I just don’t get this type of thinking. Look around man, you can do whatever you want. People don’t fucking care. I just talked to someone today who didn’t know who Donald Rumsfeld is. This was a smart, knowledgeable person for the most part. It was different eight years ago when I first came here, but by now I just don’t think it matters. You can lie by telling the truth.
For instance, FOX news used to show 9/11 arguments, (and looking back this was to make it seem like anyone taking that discussion was republican, so that when Obama got in it wouldn’t be cool to talk about it) but they would allow the person to come on there and give their argument. They would have to get blasted by O’Reilly or something to do it, but they would allow it. Even then, it has to be not only on mainstream television, but it has to be something that all the anchors are screaming down your throat in “agreement” over, sometimes 20 minutes early.
It’s not so much that people are that trusting of government; it’s that people are in such a self-indulgent haze that the only message that gets through to them is the government sponsored media one. The one that makes the most noise. It’s really sort of incredible, but I stopped being amazed by this a while ago. This whole 'well, someone would have talked" nonsense has no grounding that I can see.
Suppose I was like, “Yeah, man, when I was 14 I was taken to a government training facility for psychics. If I wanted to, I could probably prove it in court. It was illegal, and it might end up on FOX news.” - You would be like, “Oh, that’s nice.” Even though Presidential election fraud and psychic phenomena is pretty up there in terms of what would have, at some point in the recent past, constituted something that the general public would want to hear about instead of the things that people tend to prefer now.
No one gives a shit. Now that TPTB seem to WANT people to know everything is corrupt, and people still don’t care, my time here is done. And it syncs up nicely to my post count.
All hail the decimal number system. Just another layer of wool pulled over your well-socialised eyes, the kind of thing of which you claim to be aware - but clearly play into in such cases as these.
I doubt FOX lies much more than CNN or any other major news source. The statement “I’m surprised so many people believe X news source” is just a matter of politics – liberals will say FOX, conservatives will say CNN. If you step out of your clique, us-vs-them mindset for a bit, we can all recognize that it’s pretty damn hard to find a completely trustworthy news source period, Fox, CNN or otherwise.
