Im sorry to make yet another thread about this, but just cant get it out of my head…
Its common knowledge that human beings communicate in two different ways. Verbally or non-verbally (body language). I like to see it as digital or analog communication. I have learned passed the years that you can never hide your body language. Our subconscious behaviour always tell the truth within our communication. Actually if you think about it, our subconsciousness record much more than our conscious being, that makes up the world around us. I believe we share that subconsciousness. We share the truth in our surroundings, but our ego gets in the way. Thats were conscience, shame comes in. Our mind not only know what is right to do in every decision, it knows what you did and why you did it, and even to a certain degree the consequences of your actions.
There is one objective truth. We are living in it. The universe as a whole is the objective truth, with all its atoms and quarks, at this moment. And its finite. I am my own god, and I judge my self allways. Actually the future is brigth. I can make my goals. There is an objective truth in the ability to reach my goals. Within limits off course. My goals i mean. I cant wish for a pink elephant outside my door, obviously. But i do create gravity on my surroundings. And drawn to other bigger gravity fields.
…you’re ignoring how body language corresponds to emotions, and different people have different emotions. Even physically speaking, people’s internal physical structures (e.g. genes, hormones, neurology) which generate emotions are not equal.
It sounds like you believe in fate as if those born embarrassed are obligated to serve others born embarrassing despite no previously necessary psychological relationship.
Also, it’s very easy to hide your body language. You just don’t judge whoever you’re looking at. People are not worthy of your judgment by default, and they don’t deserve to be held guilty before proven innocent.
Off course they correspond to emotions, and off course different people react different to different things. That doesnt matter. I just said the concious subject doesnt always represent the objective unconsciousness. When in control of your body language (analog) you tend to exaggerate the meaning behind your digital communication. Problem is, your body always communicate the true meaning behind your communication. Never heard the expression “the eyes are the window to the soul”? You can learn to lie with your body aswell, but then its on purpose. I know its a bit far out to go from the objectiv truth of communication to a universal objectiv truth, but when you think of it, what is not communication? Even lack of communication is communication. An universal objectiv truth doesnt necessarily require fate, as in predetermine future. But the future is only going to happen if it happen, rigth? The cause and effect needed to get to your goal is predetermined only if you look back at it. Because me and you and everything around us can have interfering goals it becomes difficult to spot the next cause and not even will the same casue create the same effect… but still. There was a path in the end, which makes a path now. I believe you become as you think you are. Embarrassed or not, i believe people tend to look for their own perception to match their belief of the surroundings. Not always their own reality, but the one the majority of the implicated believes in when it comes to truth. Its also nice to notice that our biophysics reacts the same way regardless if the communication is true or false, as long you think its true/ false.
Morpho: I am having trouble with you saying "there is only one objective truth". I believe there are countless objective truths, and some we will never know, because of the limitations of our own subjective experience.
If I am living in another country, culture, the objective truth may be very different. In a sense I see your point that we live in one world, as object of our inquiry, but we can not apprehend this world apart from a subjective apprehension of it, even if the similarities are very close. We are differentiated, unique individuals, despite, appearant homogeneity from outide-in. Uniformity is very relative, re: to membership, point of view, and the function of the member.
There is no absolute objectivity, as there is no absolute subjectivity. Its a continuum, between the analog and digital, probably ty the use of both systems. The body language may have some level of correspondence to the information it tries to convey, however modicums of deception via presentation of the self also comes from the saying "all world's a stage". Meaning, we act in a continuous movement with inherent signals as to how we would like to present ourselves. Some of the body language, may appear truthful by conscious design, and sometimes we use body language insincerely, even without our conscious knowledge of why we are acting in that way.
An example of this is when someone shouts "fire" and everybody starts to run, without actually seen the fire. We really don't Know why our body language seems to indicate panic, on basis of here-say. There is no necessary connection between direct sensation, and someone's opinion and expression as to the cause of that sensation. We can correspond body language to truth-value as commonly shared, but the correspondence is not "objectively understood. It is only implied.
Yes there is many objective truths out there, but there have to be a finite number. Im not having trouble with the concept of infinite, i just dont think we can achieve that within our finite universe. The objective truth. I believe in hierarchies between powers. Power is truth. Cycles if you want. Some are vibrating in the same hierarchy level. Objective truth is right now in past. If you kick a stone, you can measure its trajectory and landing place, by calculating force, angle etc. If you kick a human being, there is no way to tell whats going to happen. Off course if you look back after 10 min you can tell what happened and you could say there was a predetermined path. An objective truth. Everyone involved would have its subjective point of view to the incident. Even the stone.
Out in the real world there’s such thing called “deception” some are good at acting, thus they can act a fake action that we can call deceptive, very naive and ignorent people will fall for such things because in their fantasy world there are only truth and objective truth.
It’s very tragic how many are easily fooled, sceemed and frauded.