Conservatives love to tell us how wrong liberals are, ok, great
so tell us your plan? how do “we right the ship?” how do we solve
the climate change problem? How do we solve homelessness?
How do we solve the income inequality problem?
You say the liberal idea is wrong, ok,
GREAT, TELL US YOUR SOLUTIONS?
Specific solutions to specific problems…
oh, yah, you don’t have any solutions… conservatives only value
is in saying no, they can’t say yes, to save their fucking lives…
I am sure that the conservatives around here will dance until they
figure out some way to pretend I didn’t ask that question or they
will somehow blame me… if conservativism is so great, what
are conservative solutions to the problems of today?
from a conservative viewpoint, it seems that
allowing diversity is a problem, so, how do we deal with
allowing people from diverse cultures to fit into America?
is diversity a solution, as liberals say or is diversity the problem,
as conservative say and why?
is achieving equality a solution as liberals say or is achieving
equality a problem, as conservatives say?
Step 1: Stop promoting sex changes.
Step 2: Stop allowing people with a penis to use a Woman’s bathroom.
Step 3: When your 2 year old son claims he is a girl, do NOT go buy a dress and tell him that he has a right to decide if he wants to be a male or female.
Step 4: Stop changing Birth Certificates.
Step 5: Stop having Rainbow parties in the streets proclaiming what kind of sexual desires you have.
K: how exactly does your solution, solve the "gay/trans problem?
what problem does your solution solve?
in other words, does your “solution” simply denies gays and trans people
the right to express themselves?.. is that your solution? simple deny
gays/trans have any rights at all?
Peter Kropotkin: how exactly does your solution, solve the "gay/trans problem?
what problem does your solution solve?
in other words, does your “solution” simply denies gays and trans people
the right to express themselves?.. is that your solution? simple deny
gays/trans have any rights at all?
M: It is not a right for a person with a penis to use a Woman’s bathroom.
It is not a right to change your Birth Certificate.
K: based on what? what problem is solved by “not being able
to change your birth certificate”… where is the problem?
M: What “gay/trans problem” are you suggesting needs fixing?
K: Actually, I don’t think there is a problem, but clearly
there are many who do consider this a problem, including yourself,
I was trying to clarify it for you… make it easier for you…
I am trying to understand why you believe this is wrong?
Peter Kropotkin: ok, so how do we solve the “gay/trans problem?”
MOTER :Step 1: Stop promoting sex changes.
Step 2: Stop allowing people with a penis to use a Woman’s bathroom.
Step 3: When your 2 year old son claims he is a girl, do NOT go buy a dress and tell him that he has a right to decide if he wants to be a male or female.
Step 4: Stop changing Birth Certificates.
Step 5: Stop having Rainbow parties in the streets proclaiming what kind of sexual desires you have.
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K: I can’t see why this is a problem… but that may lie in the fact that
I am secure in my identity… seeing men kiss, doesn’t make me
want to kiss other men… homosexuals don’t frighten me like
they seem to with Motor or others on this site…so, tell me,
why should I be afraid of or frightened by homosexuals or trans
people, as you are? Where is the problem? Why must we stop them
from being gay or trans?
Motor Daddy:
Step 3: When your 2 year old son claims he is a girl, do NOT go buy a dress and tell him that he has a right to decide if he wants to be a male or female.
K: I finally figured out why this one bothered me so much…
You are telling me how to raise my own child…taking away from
me the right to raise my child as I see fit…what business of yours
is it how I raise my child and under what conditions… what gives you
the right to tell me how to raise my own child…
Just because he is your kid doesn’t give you the right to raise him however you damn well please. Child Protective Services are there for a reason, to PROTECT children.
Good, so there is no problem, so your strawman is defeated!
Putting PEOPLE aside, regardless of what type of sex they like to have or if they cut their penis off to become a woman, there are legitimate PUBLIC concerns, such as:
Changing a Birth Certificate.
Penis in a Woman’s bathroom.
Child abuse.
Rainbow parties in the street without a permit to gather!
I’m really not well suited to defend American conservatives… but I don’t have a problem criticising stupid ideas.
These binary yay or nay values that you propose are thoughtless and ultimately false dichotomies.
The only sane discussion to be had about diversity and equality is to what degree it’s sustainable… only a fool is “for” or “against” either.
As neither equality nor diversity are functional if maximized or minimized, the question becomes a matter of degrees and moderation, where the functional goldilocks zone might be.
MOTER :Step 1: Stop promoting sex changes.
Step 2: Stop allowing people with a penis to use a Woman’s bathroom.
Step 3: When your 2 year old son claims he is a girl, do NOT go buy a dress and tell him that he has a right to decide if he wants to be a male or female.
Step 4: Stop changing Birth Certificates.
Step 5: Stop having Rainbow parties in the streets proclaiming what kind of sexual desires you have.
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K: I can’t see why this is a problem…
Motor daddy: Good, so there is no problem, so YOUR STRAWMAN IS
DEFEATED…
Peter Kropotkin: what business of yours
is it how I raise my child and under what conditions…
Motor: Just because he is your kid doesn’t give you the right to raise him however you damn well please. Child Protective Services are there for a reason, to PROTECT children.
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K: I find it interesting that unless I adhere to your beliefs, a government
agency can “protect” my children…If I were to suggest the same, getting
a government agency to protect your kids from your beliefs… you would
go on a ten-minute rampage how liberals are trying to take over your
parental rights and how they are overreaching to take away your rights…
and yet, apparently its ok if you do the same to me… wonder how that works?
actually, as I am a parent, I can raise my children any damn well I please…
and I did… I can tell you are not a parent…
Peter Kropotkin: so, tell me,
why should I be afraid of or frightened by homosexuals or trans
people, as you are?
Motor: because I never claimed to be frightened by homosexuals or trans people!
K: because conservatives are afraid of everything… liberals, love, obama,
black people, socialism, CRT, thinking, homosexuality, atheists,
peace, puppies, gender identities, gun control, blue states… just
to name a few of conservative’s fear’s…
if you aren’t afraid, then why the needs for gun to protect yourself?
You are so afraid, you want everyone to live in fear as you do…
this is why you want everyone on planet earth to have a gun…
because you can’t imagine people who aren’t afraid like you…
Well, you’re right that an average heterosexual adult won’t change their sexual orientation merely because they saw a bunch of men kissing. But given enough pressure, any heterosexual man can be turned into a homosexual. Sexual orientation isn’t something that is fixed.
How do they turn people into homosexuals?
There are two ways they can achieve that end and both can be employed at the same time. One way is to achieve it via physical processes e.g. via the water that you drink, the air that you breathe, the food that you eat, the drugs that you take, the medical treatments that you undergo, the vaccines that you take and so on. Another way to achieve it is via social and physiological processes e.g. by pushing the idea that homosexuality is something desirable, by shaming heterosexuality, by promoting certain type of fashion, by promoting certain type of art, by promoting certain kinds of social activities and so on.
Either way, adults are much more difficult to control than children are, so most of the proposed restrictions pertaining to homosexuality, I believe, are meant to protect the young.
Have you noticed how most people believe that large numbers of people should be forced to act against their will? If it were up to them, the entire world would be coerced into behaving as they think they should behave – whether it’s restricting men from beating their wives or forcing parents to send their children to schools.