On the purpose of metaphysics, historically and today

Metaphysics is a broad area of philosophy which has historically ceded ground to science, but which remains very much alive regardless of numerous attempts to finally kill it off. Its purpose must be defined in terms of its territory, which is the conceptual space between two things:

1: Some kind of first principles. This was historically often defined culturally by the prevalent religious environment (such as Hinduism, Buddhism or Christianity). The more purely philosophical option is to define the first principles without reference to religion, as the ancient Greek philosophers did, and as various modern Western philosophers have done. Descartes started with his “Cogito”, Schopenhauer with a blind Will, etc…

2: The best science available. For most of Western history this meant the work of Aristotle’s “natural philosophy”. Aristotle provided his own metaphysics, and the Catholic Church spent over a millenium trying to synthesise Aristotle’s proto-science and cosmology with some rather complicated Christian metaphysical principles. After the scientific revolution this meant classical Newtonian-Maxwellian physics.

Much of the time metaphysics focuses on details – on answering specific questions (such as the nature of free will), or solving specific problems, but the greatest works of metaphysics were grand, systematic attempts to build a bridge between (1) and (2), while answering as many of the important questions and solving all of the most serious problems which needed to answered or solved in order to construct that bridge.

The period between 1900 and 1925 marked a fundamental change in the status of metaphysics. Two things happened together. First, classical physics broke. Einstein’s theories of relativity (1905 and 1915) fundamentally cracked open the idea of a naïve materialistic view of reality, and then in 1925/6 quantum mechanics shattered it entirely. Secondly, Wittgenstein wrote what turned out to be the most influential philosophy book of the 20th century, in which he claimed that metaphysics was necessarily impossible (meaningless), and that we should basically just shut up about it. This was enthusiastically promoted by the logical positivists, and the quantum physicians mostly agreed (“shut up and calculate”).

Metaphysics did not simply roll over and die, of course. But it went into a long decline, and outside philosophy departments nobody took much notice of it for a while. This began to change in the 1970s, partly because the metaphysical questions raised by quantum mechanics had stubbornly refused to go away, and partly because the hippy and new age movements started importing various versions of Eastern philosophy and inventing Westernised versions of them.

However, what very few people have even tried to do since then is the grand synthesising task that metaphysics traditionally did: to build a bridge between first principles and known science. Instead what people do is pick some particular metaphysical system, either a whole system from the past, or a partial system from the present day, and try to understand, explain and defend it. This piecemeal approach never gets us anywhere. None of the old systems are any good at the current task, because they were constructed to solve a different set of problems and answer a different set of questions. Firstly we can’t just assume some particular version of Buddhism or Christianity for first principles – not if our metaphysics is intended for consumption beyond that microcosm. It doesn’t necessarily have to be naturalistic, but it needs to be free from religious dogma of any kind. Secondly, those old systems were constructed without knowledge of modern science – especially quantum mechanics, neuroscience/cognitive science, and cosmology. Why am I picking those three? Because each of them is deep in crisis, and the crisis is inescapably metaphysical. The physicalists deny this, of course, but they generally don’t even realise that physicalism is metaphysics itself, let alone being able to understand what is wrong with it. The fact remains that science has made no progress at all on the foundational questions about consciousness – we have overwhelming jusitification for believing that brains are needed, and we know an awful lot about what brains do, but we can’t answer basic questions about why subjectivity exists at all, or how it relates to the rest of scientific knowledge. How did the first brain evolve if physicalism is incoherent? It is not just the Hard Problem either – there are several other major conceptual problems which reek of metaphysics (the Binding Problem, the Frame Problem, etc..). And in QM’s centenary, we are considerably further away from agreeing on its metaphysical interpretation than we were at the beginning. Any attempt to link these two questions is deeply controversial, because it necessarily highlights the shortcomings of physicalism, and that’s socially unacceptable in science. Additionally, all of the attempts that do exist (Penrose being the perfect example) are themselves problematic. But it is cosmology that is most interesting, because here there are a large number of different anomalies and paradoxes, they are deepening and proliferating, and nobody has got any clear idea of how they are even related to each other, let alone how they might be related to consciousness or quantum foundations.

So there is a massive opportunity here. The situation is screaming the need for a major paradigm shift which spans both science and metaphysics, and the task at hand is the modern version of the task metaphysics always had: to build a grand synthesis which acts a bridge between some kind of first principles (and these must be primarily philosophical rather than religious) and these three different branches of science, all of which are “metaphysically vulnerable”. What is needed is a system which takes the entire problem space into account. It must start with our best science, then closely survey the three big problem areas – then it must try to disentangle the empirical data from the physicalist assumptions which lurk in every shadow. Then it must survey the most important open metaphysical questions (why does anything exist at all? Why does it feel like we have free will? Etc…). And it must then take all of these problems and construct a new grand metaphysical system which succeeds in building a bridge between first principles and empirical data, and in doing so resolves ALL of the major outstanding problems. If it is going to stand up, it needs to make sense of quantum mechanics, cosmology and neuroscience/cognitive science, while also making sense of the fundamental philosophical questions about consciousness, causality, will and the origin of existence.

Very few people are even trying to do this. Nobody in academia is trying to do it, and not many are trying to do it outside of academia either. Instead, most people are still focusing on partial questions, specific problems and tiny details, or trying to defend historical metaphysical systems which were never designed to build the great metaphysical bridge that is needed here and now. I believe that far from being dead, metaphysics is on the verge of a golden age that will eclipse its 18th-19th century heyday.

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Descartes started with cogito and God.

Sure. It was just an example.

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I want to say also that Aristotle basically invented metaphysics. This discreet separation of the problems it proposes from the rest of philosophical inquiry, including what he called physics, did not exist before him.

There is a real question whether the very separation robs philosophical inquiry of the possibility of finding any kind of useful answers.

Aristotle did not invent metaphysics. Anaximander and Pythagoras had already done so, and Plato was more of a metaphysician that Aristotle.

However, this post is really about what metaphysics is, and why it is relevant today. Exactly which ancient Greek invented which metaphysical concept first isn’t very important with respect to what I am trying to say.

The whole history of metaphysics can act as a repository of ideas, and a series of lessons about potential mistakes to avoid, but the contemporay questions metaphysics must answer are either completely new, or new versions of old questions.

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Could you provide some examples here?

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Sure. An obvious example is the metaphysics of time. Given how fundamental it is to our understanding of reality – both physical and metaphysical – you’d think physicists would have this one nailed. Nothing could be further from the truth. All the old questions about time still apply, except now it is complicated by three different branches of science which can’t agree with themselves or with each other about the nature of time. One is Relativity – is space-time ontologically real? If so, is it fundamental or does it emerge from something deeper? If it emerges from something deeper, then how does time work at that deeper level? Another is quantum mechanics, in which time appears to be almost completely reversible – that it doesn’t matter whether time goes forwards or backwards, because the laws work either way. This sets up questions about possible retrocausality that nobody previously thought to ask. The third is cosmology, where we have a growing number of anomalies, many of which seem to involve our understanding of the early cosmos, and that demands a theory of “deep time” which currently isn’t available. What does it even mean to talk about the cosmos in the first moments after the big bang? When we observe distant objects with the JWST – some of the very earliest structures that formed after the Big Bang – what are we actually observing? Is it like a “baby photograph” of the early cosmos? Or is it a retrodicted observational surface?

Another example is the Measurement Problem in QM. How do we get from a set of quantum possibilities to a singular observed classical outcome? QM is 100 years old, and we are no closer to answering this question than we were at the beginning. The real problem is the lack of consensus, and this gets worse every time a new interpretation is invented. So there’s a meta-question here: why can’t we figure this out? Why is the situation getting more confusing instead of less?

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How fundamental is ‘time’ to human beings understanding of reality, exactly?

If, for example, ‘time’ has not been so-called "nailed’, yet, then how would anyone know if ‘time’ is fundamental to understanding reality, itself, or not?

Also, what do you mean by the ‘metaphysical’ word here, exactly?

Great point.

And, one of the reasons ‘those people’ still have not yet worked out what the ‘time’ word means or refers to, exactly, is because people believe their own ‘current’ versions are the true and right one/s, although they do not yet have the proof needed for their belief/s.

The answers to all of these types of questions can be found or provided through open and honest, logically reasoned discussions.

How could any claim of what ‘time’ does, exactly, be logically provided when what ‘time’ itself is exactly has not yet even been agreed with and accepted by people here?

Which also sets up further questions about things that no one here had previously thought to ask. But, this is just the nature of human beings continually learning, understanding, and coming to know more and anew always.

One reason why so many anomalies exist here, and the actual Truth takes so long to come to be known, is that people express their presumptions and beliefs as though they are what actually exist/ed, as you exampled just now.

you said and wrote the words “early cosmos”, as though there was an early cosmos.

Also, and by the way, what will be understood is the actual Truth does not demand any such thing as a theory of “deep time”.

What ‘time’ is, exactly, which fits in with the G.U.T.O.E explains why no theory is needed here.

It just means to talk about the Universe, a few moments after a ‘bang’ happened.

Things or events that happened and occurred.

Why do you say, “early cosmos”, as though it actually existed?

Would it not be best to find out and learn and understand what actually existed first, before starting to wonder what some imagined existence could be like or could have looked like?

Very, very simply and easily.

Firstly, by not imagining that there is some actual separation, inconsistency, contradiction, nor difference.

Some people are not; that is for certain.

And this is exactly why I have continually suggested to not assume nor guess anything.

After all, the actual irrefutable Truth of Reality is here, before all of us, for us to look at and observe It exactly as It is.

All these theories, interpretations, hypotheses, or assumptions, which are all essentially just guesses, have been continually leading people astray and completely and utterly astray.

I, again, will suggest being Truly open, always, which means not believing nor disbelieving absolutely anything at all.

Also, why there is a lack of consensus is because there is a lack of seeking out clarification and obtaining clarity. As I have shown and proved throughout these philosophy forums. Also, people speak and write without even knowing what they are meaning, exactly.

If people want to KNOW the answers to questions like above here then they need to ask their questions as specifically as can be. And, once people KNOW ‘the meaning’ of the words they are asking the questions that they ask, then the more specific the question, the more specific ‘the answer’ is, which will come to light.

The answer, and the solution, is in ‘the answer’ to your question here.

The reason WHY it is taking human beings so long to figure out the problems and answer questions like above is that they do not yet know the answer to the question;

‘How can we find out ‘the answer’ that will solve all of our problems and answer all of our questions?’

Once ‘that answer’ was found, which also holds ‘the solution’ to finding, HOW to answer and solve ALL of the meaningful questions and problems in Life, then that is when they started being answered, properly and Correctly, once and for ALL.

Because people are holding onto their beliefs and presumptions more. People have come to want to be true and right, instead of wanting to find out what is actually True and Right, to and by ALL.

But, once you also learn, understand, and know HOW to see through ALL of the distorted beliefs and confusion, finding and knowing ‘the answers’ in Life happens almost immediately.

To: Anew1

OK.. I am not sure what you are alluding to in terms of an answer, so it is up to you to explain more if you want to.

How can we find out ‘the answer’ that will solve all of our problems and answer all of our questions?’

My answer: we will not find it until we are willing to consider the whole problem space together, as a single giant problem, instead of countless little problems (well, some of them are enormous even on their own – free will, for example). We need our right hemispheres involved, not just endless dissection of details by the left. We will not solve the hard problem of consciousness by thinking only about consciousness, and we won’t solve the measurement problem by only thinking about QM. And somehow all those different problems in cosmology are related to each other – or at least most of the big ones are.

What is required is a new metaphysical structure which takes all these different problems, and then describes a new model of reality in which they cease to be problems. Not 30 different solutions to 30 different problems, but ONE solution to all 30, at least at the foundational levels of metaphysics and science. The current situation has all of the hallmarks of an utterly broken paradigm, and that paradigm is not just physicalism. It’s a multi-dimensional stalemate with physicalism on one side and an array of anti-physicalisms on another (including idealism, panpsychism and dualism), and postmodern anti-realists deliberately making the situation even more confusing with intentional epistemic anarchy.

And yes, if we’re talking about the sociology and psychology, a major part of this problem is that even though we have epistemic anarchy, large numbers of people are nevertheless absolutely certain that their current worldview is the right one. They aren’t willing to honestly assess the reasons why it can’t command a consensus. They think everybody else should just agree with their personal decision about which of these inadequate models is the least bad. Least bad isn’t good enough. The correct answer must have sufficient explanatory power to blow the old menu away. That is how paradigm shifts actually work.

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Just so you become aware, the answer has already been found.

And, for every answer there is a solution, and solutions have formulas. There is now a formula that leads to World Peace for everyone.

Both have been solved already.

Again, already solved.

Again, the answer to the question, “How can we find the answer and solution to all of our problems and questions?” has already been found, solved, and answered.

Again, already done.

Already done. The answer to the above question holds ‘the One solution’, which you are talking about and referring to here, exactly.

There are NO actual “sides” in Life.

It does.

True.

There is not much point is claiming problems have been solved if you aren’t willing to explain the solution. It leads people to suspect that they probably won’t agree with the proposed solution.

You think world peace is possible? I think a TOE is possible, but world peace is likely to remain elusive forever.

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you are probably not yet aware, but I wait for those who are curious.

If you would like any answers or solutions, then as I suggest previously, the more specific the question, the more specific the answer can and will be.

Again, the solution is in ‘the answer’ to the question, ‘How can we find the answers to all of our problems in Life?’

Now, if anyone would like to know the answer and/or solution, then they will ask the necessary questions to obtain enough clarification and clarity. I have learned that there is NO use in saying and writing things if ‘the readers’ are not really that interested and curious to learn more or anew.

Also, why did you believe that ‘I’ am not willing to explain the solution?

See how quickly people presume things, and jump to conclusions. Again, this is one of the reasons WHY people are taking so long to ‘bridge the divide’ and ‘catch up’.

you have made jumped to a conclusion, based off of your own made up, unverified assumption.

your assumption - “I am not willing to explain the solution”. From which,

you concluded - “leads people to suspect that they probably won’t agree with the proposed solution”.

Which, in and of itself, is another assumption.

If, however, you first sought out clarity regarding your first assumption, then you would not have kept moving further astray and also getting more confused. Which is what was actually happening and occuring more among people in the days when this is being written.

Yes.

you are free to ‘assume’ this.

By the way, the G.U.T.O.E. has also already been achieved.

The knowledge of HOW World Peace is achievable and HOW ‘we’ will be moving towards it shortly is, by the way, written in conjunction with the G.U.T.O.E.

For anyone who is interested and curious as to ‘the solution’ of HOW people can find ‘the answers’ to all of so-called ‘Life’s problems’, and ‘Life’s mysteries’, by “themselves” and almost immediately, and KNOW that they have the True and Right answers, then, and as always, let ‘us’ have a Truly open and honest, logically reasoned peaceful discussion.

Sorry, but this smells far too much like theology to me. Just an intuition, I could be wrong.

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@Geoff

Welcome to the forum here.

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Hello. I have actually been here before…18 years ago. I have no memory of it, although I remember that time in my life very well. I have been on quite a philosophical journey since then. It has taken me until now to get my position straightened out!

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All of those three wrote about things, parts of which would fall into Aristotle’s category “metaphysics.”

But you seem to be making these claims on the basis of Wikipedia entries. Like the Descartes omisson, fairly major.

Anyway, good luck with it. Maybe ask the autogenerated software system in your computer!

@Geoff

It has taken me quite a few decades as well to figure things out philosophically.

Much time, patience, and lots of thinking is necessary shaping our worldviews overtime.

Welcome to the forum here, I really like your posts thus far. When I get some more time I will respond.

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In my case it took four attempts to write a book – about the intersection of the science/mysticism conflict in the West, and the collapse of civilisation and the need to construct an ecocivilisation. Each time I failed I learned something new about why the problem was so hard to solve. That book eventually came out a year ago, but even then the new cosmological-metaphysical model was incomplete. But it was because I finally went public with it, and got various feedback, that I made the breakthrough that allowed me to complete it (I was looking for a physical trigger for wavefunction collapse, when my own ontology suggested a purely informational/logical cause is more appropriate). So, 17 years to write a book, and then it is out of date 12 months later. I now have another book out, just about the metaphysics/cosmology/epistemology, without all the politically divisive collapse and ecocivilisation stuff. Now I need to rewrite the ecocivilisation book…a fifth time.

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@Geoff

I also talk about the collapse of civilization or society a lot as well. Although keep in mind I am a Marxist and overall socialistic state communist.

A modern Marxist and communist with visions of post-modern political reforms.

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