Uneducated Christians believe their are alot of intelligent people. Alot of these intelligent people differ. Some of you believe one is right, the rest are wrong. We just go one person further.
In a sense, aintelligence. Not meant in a bad way. This actually seems to be somewhat tempting to believe. So many people are smart, like so many Gods are believed in. Not all these differing smart people can be true, some believe in some and not in others like Gods. An aintellgence person goes one person further and says they think their all wrong because religion is simple.
Hmmmmm.
Does not seem like a good belief but seems to be a popular belief of those who do not study into philosophy and science.
Perhaps however. Like a mary the virgin error. Intelligence somewhere has made a mistake, and from that mistake grown into a whole thought process that deny simple concepts like the bible. Perhaps. Or perhaps not. Perhaps we went wrong?
The reason why these arguments keep continuing is because there is no shared view of what words like these mean, they are very abstract words that have wide wide defintions.
The idea I presented is the debate. It’s very deep. Like trying to find out where we may have went wrong with secular knowledge if Christianity is true. Did we trust a truth that was not so? Is there something down the line we believed was a given that has lead to a whole entire scientific misunderstanding? I think this is what people like my parents believe when they tell me that Knowledge and Intelligence are practically misleading to the Christian faith. If that’s true than I don’t want Christian faith because that’s blind faith, not even the faith that’s used in scripture! But it’s almost a cop-out I don’t study and so I’ll believed blindly and in a round-a-bout way tell you obtaining knowledge and listening to college professors is that of the devil. Is the point made clear? If not use this with my opening paragraph.
I have many friends that are catholic, and I like some that the institution offers, but it isn’t any more rational christianity than many others. You have to back up “why” you think it is rational.
I think Catholicism is irrational and negative in the world from some legitimate perspectives.
For example, the catholic church teaches against using condoms in africa. This is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY bad teaching for fighting AIDS. It outrages me that some priests in funky suits can teach things to people who trust them, that can kill them, and ACTUALLY does. Complete outrage, and complete irrationality as far as saving humans lives.
Catholisism=rational or irrational depending upon how you look at it. There is no pat answer, and it is wrong to pretend there is.
Would it help if the priests did not wear funky suits? What is wrong with funky suits?
It’s not the condoms that save people as much as it’s the fornication and sodomy that kills them, and their souls that is the ethical problem.
By Catholicism being rational and positive, I’d like to point to all the great philosophers and thinkers that have been Catholic, and they uniformly hold that knowledge is possible and love is ethical.
I agree with my real name. Protestantism is valid, but it doesn’t seem to be a good home for the intellectual in the West. I myself will not advocate Catholicism as an ultimate destination, but it’s certainly a step forward.
EDIT: One thing I feel I should mention, is that the modern philosophers I read tend to be Protestants these days, so there is at least a ‘home for the intellectual’ that these people have found.
funky suits are funky suits, that was more the mode of writing, nothing else, except that sometimes people in authority wear special clothing to show superiority. Funny how jesus didn’t wear special robes . . . ? Anyway, that is not the main point, that is a tangent.
sleeping with people of the opposite sex is a biological drive, not fornication. fornication is a way to blame people for what they instictively do as mamals. Have you noticed that fornication is more of a way to control womens sexuality. In many abrahamic traditions, the women is stoned and put to death, but the man often gets off with lighter charges. I see this as purely and ethically wrong in every sense.
This is a typical problem with super-dogmatic people, the victims are blamed instead of the institutions that cause the harm. Blame the victims in africa, that is really mature. Sure uphold your religion at the cost of deaths of inocent people. I really don’t see why people love their religion over ethics, at least the way I see it.
What does it matter if great philosophers have been catholic or not? Many great athiest philosophers exist too, does that mean that athiesm is positive? This point of yours hold no water whatsoever.
Sure catholicism and many other spiritual paths can teach love and can benefit human societies and individuals profoundly, but they can also cause destruction like the africa case which you have not successfully debated.
I was raised mormon, and I saw plenty of abuse by the church, sexual and mental, and when I tried to talk to people about it, they upheld the church instead of focused on the problem. It seems like people are willing to upheld their religious institution of choice more than the health and welfare of those who suffer because of the institution.
I hope you know I am not dissing on christianity or catholicism, I am just upset at some of the actions of the catholic church which I feel seriously hurt people. The actions in light of ethics is not rational.