Oppositional Defiant Disorder - Does ILP show symptoms?

Is ILP ODD?

  • Yes
  • No
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mentalhealth.com/icd/p22-ch05.html

ODD (not to be confused with ADHD or variants, though apparently the two sets of letters are written on the foreheads of the same children) is a condition which affects children up to 10 years of age (ILP is just over 4 years old in its present form) and is characterised by something beyond misbehaviour but before the descent into serious violence and other “more severe dissocial or aggressive acts that violate the law or the rights of others”. Back in the olden days they’d have just branded such children ‘naughty’ or perhaps diagnose demonic possession (the most likely explanation if you ask me), either way a course of beatings and leeches would usually suffice to kill the child or at least render them so weak than ODD or no ODD they wouldn’t be bothering anyone.

Does ILP displays the symptoms? I read on:
“Children with this disorder tend frequently and actively to defy adult requests or rules and deliberately to annoy other people. Usually they tend to be angry, resentful, and easily annoyed by other people whom they blame for their own mistakes or difficulties.”

I can only think of about 3 posters who don’t do this. And one of those left a few weeks ago.

“They generally have a low frustration tolerance and readily lose their temper. Typically, their defiance has a provocative quality, so that they initiate confrontations and generally exhibit excessive levels of rudeness, uncooperativeness, and resistance to authority.”

Yep, sounds about right.

“Frequently, this behaviour is most evident in interactions with adults or peers whom the child knows well, and signs of the disorder may not be evident during a clinical interview.”

Now I’ve never conducted a clinical interview with ILP as a whole but I imagine if one could and did do such a thing that one would see the described result.

“The key distinction from other types of conduct disorder is the absence of behaviour that violates the law and the basic rights of others, such as theft, cruelty, bullying, assault, and destructiveness. The definite presence of any of the above would exclude the diagnosis.”

As far as I know no-one has ever been subject to theft or assault, though one could make an argument for the others.

So the question remains, is ILP ODD?

siatd,

Then I guess that just leaves you and me? :laughing:

JT

Yes it is. It’s better than being even, though.

Oh, don’t impeach me… I couldn’t find anything better to say and this is, after all the mundane babble thread… I’m mentally exhausted, pardon my futile intervention.

I do hope to get into a better form in the days to come.

I’m stubbernly docile. :sunglasses:

But yes, ILP probably does have a bad case of “ODD”. But just look at it like this: it could be A LOT worse! I’d hate to be on a major Political Forum, or something like that. Unless it was heavily moderated, I’m sure it would be “flamethrower-required” setting. I mean, there are two hot-button issues that people tend to really get worked up about: politicals and religion.

just my 2 & 1/2 cents anywhoo… :wink:

Do you consider yourself among this group?

Oh, I wouldn’t include myself in the three. I’m guilty of this sort of thing, that’s plain for all to see. The one who left, incidentally, was Arendt. Dunamis went through his ODD periods…

I was hoping that someone would make an ODD/odd joke, and I’m glad that it was you and not just some random 12 year old ILPite. I’ve made an editorial decision, the official term for an ILP poster is ‘ILPite’. It looks and sounds cooler than the other available options.

This thread is obviously not particularly serious in intent, I just heard about the condition on the radio and given the events of recent days, weeks, months, in fact, since I’ve been here, it seemed appropriate.

As I said to JT, no, I don’t.

Well ILP does go through its flamethrower-required periods, but that’s simply an aspect of its being so open. I blame ben, who is probably ODD himself…

wow

A friend of mine who went to a school for kids with varying learning difficulties had a teacher who once claimed to have a tattoo of the letter ‘w’ on each buttock so that when she bent over it spelt —

10 bonus points towards becoming a symposia star contributor to whoever can guess the 3 letter word…

I love it! The great philosophical question know is:

How does one exactly pronouce “ILPite”?

Is it “i-el-pi-tee”, or “i-el-pite”? :smiley:

And, the youngest member I’ve come accross on these forums was like 14. 12 is a stretch. A twelve year old is not even COPPA coomplient yet! :slight_smile:

Ill (as in unwell) pite (rhymes with kite)

ILPite…

20 bonus points if anyone even comes close to laughing at this.

Gobbo, why are you so sad? Why must you play the clown with the tears painted on his face?

Just leave it alone - It isn’t making you happier, that’s pretty clear to anyone…

To be honest, you make me sad.

There it is, you win. :cry:

Arendt was very much annoyed with many people here, and several times she was quite angry as well. She simply never bothered to confront anyone about it. I think it has more to do with female submissiveness then ODD, which, by the way, can basically be construed as AntiSocial Personality Disorder in adults.

Sure, but ILP is only 4 so I thought that the child version was more appropriate…

Ok I was re-reading this and I realized I thought Siatd said he was in the group, but he didn’t.

I take back the wow comment.

My mistake.

I can’t concentrate right now… :confused:

No offence Gobbo but something must really be distracting you, I said twice that I was not in the ‘group of 3’

(just for clarification)