…the humming of the universe and the vibrations of time.
What Vedantists call name and form is roughly equivalent to the Kantian categories of time and space— given structures of the mind which make possible but set limits around what the mind can grasp. Consciousness generates the mind from the center of our being, yet it ultimately encompasses the finite categories by which we attempt to frame reality in language.
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I’m not Vedantist.
I am. Where do you differ with what I said? Kant was not a Vedantist either as far as I know. But, his critique of pure reason is consistent with the Vedantist epistemology as Schopenhauer proved.
The symbol of karma extends the idea of cause and effect to the moral sphere. I say “symbol” because in my understanding the boundaries are too broad and undefined to be a concept. I look at it as a heuristic to explore experimentally in thought. History shows that deep thought on the matter issues in compassionate service to living beings as it did for Buddha and Jesus.
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Well… it ain’t from no book or [manu]script, so passed down, so… personal.
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Since when you a Vedantist?
Since around April of 2022 when I experienced nondual reality as expounded in the Upanishads. There are usually shun labels, but I’m comfortable calling myself a Christian VedantIst.
Is Vedantism the only non-dual route to take/why choose a religion because of your experience/why not just be ‘it’?
Right. There are many paths to the One. No religion has a monopoly on the truth.
Some paths are incompatible with each other, though. Some with reality itself.
There is a nondual center to every major world religion. Others have found it independently of religion.
I’d say that each religion has its own ‘innate’ truths, that are not found in any books but in the minds of its inheritors.
I draw water from the wells of all religions. It’s the same water everywhere. The substance of the universe. Whoever drinks of this water never thirsts again. See John 4:14. This water wakes you up to who you are. Jesus wishes everyone to see they are as he is.
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I draw water from the wells of my ancestral faiths/religions… though I appreciate all of them, minus the extremism.
Swami Vivekananda spoke against fanaticism at the Parliament of Religions in Chicago, 1893. Such “isms” intensified during the dissolution of colonialism in the 20th century and into the present aided by digital technology. The oligarchs are ascendant over democracy at this political moment. Democratic institutions in America have reified and become corrupt. Trump is the agent of change for better or worse. Probably worse for most folks. Nevertheless, change wins the day in the phenomenal world. I’m thinking of Shelley’s “Ozymandias”.
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That says it all, after what the last 4 years of the Biden administration has been like.
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No-one in their right mind would think that the occurrences that took place during those last four years were neither normal nor respectable…
The cardinal virtues of wisdom (discerning the eternal from the ephemeral), fortitude (inner strength and courage), temperance (balance and moderation) and justice (fairness and compassion toward all) are the fruit of the Spirit. These virtues were identified by Plato and practiced and promoted by Stoic and Christian seekers alike since the first century of the Common Era. They precede and transcend politics.
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So none of those ethical notions [virtues] or politics, existed before then?
Those virtues are present at the dawn of human history. They are personified by the heroes in the earliest recorded mythologies of Egypt and India and the Middle East and indigenous societies. Ancient Hermeticism is essentially one with Vedantism and inform NeoPlatonism which in turn informed Catholicism.
At the end of the New Testament epistles the authors often exhort the reader to virtuous action. Jesus’ teachings to his disciples were like that of Adi Shankara to the sanyasa, Buddha’s to his monks or like the Cynic philosophers during the Hellenistic period including in Galilee where Jesus was from. Paul enumerates the virtues he calls the fruit of the Spirit at the end of his letters to the churches.
So I’m examining virtue ethics as a manifestation of inner strength in contrast to the ethics of social justice which depends on or seeks societal change as the primary means of realizing goods.
ewwwwwwwwwww how disgrosting is that