Parapsychology: Prove it!

The most prominent shreds of empirical evidence in the phenomena for UNDETERMINED KNOWLEDGE. Criteria . . .

(a) Example that is documented by any organization receiving government funding. Reference file number (preferred, not mandatory).

(b) Match statistical probability (done by anyone with a degree in math will do. Full name of mathematician.) with documentation of events in regard to what a person claimed or an event that happened.

(c) Any piece of conjecture where someone sought an alternative explaination in a public venue (again documented by some organization receiving government funding), and the extent of their argument’s weight.

If you can’t do that, please throw out all books on parapsychology and psychic and “remote viewing” and “intuition” and “picking up vibrations” and all the other annoying information-corrupting digital pollutant fanatic fuelling dark-age rehash scrap of purely ridiculous bunk that you can possibly find. Thanks.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 9057492486

The link is a documentary on the remote viewers which the CIA used during the cold war.

I wouldn’t take it seriously though… the CIA and US gov’t usually stick to things which have only been discussed and examined in the public venue.

pears don’t have intelligence…

-Imp

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  1. Google Daniel Dunglas Home or look him up in Encyclopedia Britannica .
  2. Pears don’t have intelligence? Check out Dr. Jagadis Chunder Bose on Wikipedia. Where does one draw the line?
  3. How does one prove experiential knowledge?

There are too many unanswered questions for anyone who would support absolute denial of parapsychological experiences. Only a fool can claim “this is all there is”.

Yeah, but only a wise guy can say “this is all there is, not all that can be.”

S.S,
Well said! =D>

Is this how you always go about gaining knowledge of a given thing, or is this just your special criteria for parapsychology?

I was about to pass on something I thought was quite interesting, then I thought, ‘why bother?’

I couldn’t even ‘prove’ to you what I had for breakfast today if I had to supply all the records and witnesses you demand here.

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For those that need evidence, there is none better than what is right in front of your eyes.

A

Spirit beings sabatoged government psi-ops later on, because psionics is too powerful to be abused by the corrupt US government, and I’m glad that they got sabatoged, also.

What proof do any of us have that we exist?

Holds up antimetaphysical cross “Be gone with you, nonphysicality! Parapsychology, not metaphysics!”

Okay, sorry. Seriously (sort of)- Shinton, it is indeed my special criteria for parapsychology. But I don’t think it’s far from the ideal criteria for just about any evidence.

Dear fans of parapsychology, please don’t consider me hostile. It’s not so bad. But the New Age movement implores me to prod at it in debate wheather it is a new field or an epidemic. Taataa.

Well, I think so therefore I am. Thats usually good enough for me.

I think there’s a difference between observing and thinking. It doesn’t take a Descartes to observe, but to think about being? Oh, that’s not any ol’ “I am”, that’s a philosopher.

Then what is observation? From what internal reality are you drawing your external perceptions of the world?

Meh, the gift of language allows us to see from someone else’s view at least to a degree and that’s enough for me to go by the observation of people as well as the rest of my surroundings and in that I know I am not the only “I am” because of the amount of “I ams” I observe. Not only are there other people to observe but objects too that do not think but it does not make them what they are by not being a who they are.

As I read this paragraph I make myself slightly confused. Nevertheless, I think I got it. :confused:

Degrees of knowing conditions–

  1. experience of what is physical
  2. experience of physical evolving into mental
  3. experience of mental evolving into ?
    With these givens, I experience existence prior to my concepts of what existence entails. I am before I can think!!! I am being and becoming with a need for belonging.
    Sorry if this smacks of metaphysics. In experiential reality it is just plain, simple material existence with its propensity to evolve.
    Parapsychology, if experienced, needs proofs only if all of our current religious, philosophic or scientific ideas need proof. Science has set the precedent for empirical verification. It cannot prove its own direction. There is room in our evolving for so many things that can only find empirical verification at later stages of our mental development. The proof problem is that few can verify, given its restrictive criteria for assessments, our own existence.