Personality tested MM

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 1:36am

Sure we do… we just have far fewer friends than most… in fact probably only one or two, or three at a push, but they always do something that makes an INTJ end the friendship.

Sleep well buddy. Later yeah!

The_Golden_Turd · November 25, 2016, 1:39am

No, fuck friends. And your a party booze hound.

A_Shieldmaiden · November 25, 2016, 1:46am

Aint that the truth.

What’s with this woman?

The_Golden_Turd · November 25, 2016, 1:49am

Stick up her butt. You know how it is with the British.

How are your plants growing ShieldMaiden?

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 1:51am

Why don’t you use your intuition and tell me…

A_Shieldmaiden · November 25, 2016, 1:54am

You are so wrong, wrong, wrong. HA!

How can one explain. Just asking that question seems pathetic.

You are either or not.

TF is right,

A_Shieldmaiden · November 25, 2016, 1:56am

Why the desperate need?..to be.

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 2:02am

Desperate need or merely having fun? the average human will always choose the one that suits them and will make them feel better about themselves.

Why the need for you to come into the conversation on a negative note?

A_Shieldmaiden · November 25, 2016, 2:18am

Huh?

You want me to agree with your outlandish assertions?

Choose?

I don’t view them as negative, they are positive.

The_Golden_Turd · November 25, 2016, 2:24am

Obviously, such a person is not swayed by emotional status. Most people accept the opinions and pronouncements of established authorities. The INTJ does not. He tries to look beyond the ‘experts’ and discover the real facts. He uses logic to evaluate his beliefs, thank you very much.
This viewpoint gives the INTJ an unusual view of reality. Unlike others, he does not fixate upon specific Mercy experiences. As far he is concerned, what really matters is the Perceiver facts that lie behind those experiences. One positive result is external flexibility. He knows that the situations of life can change, and he is equipped to adapt when they do.
Unfortunately, this seemingly ‘rational’ approach of the typical INTJ is full of hypocrisy. This is because, like Spock of Star Trek, the logical INTJ has a ‘human mother.’ Remember that Mercy strategy is the first to develop in a child. All other mental programming grows from this emotional core. Because the INTJ was also a young child at one time, this emotional foundation lives in him as well. Therefore, when the INTJ suppresses external Feeling and focuses upon external Thinking, he is showing others the logical periphery of his mind while at the same time pretending that the emotional core does not exist.
How can one know that this emotional foundation is there? Because the INTJ is a private person who is easily hurt. If he had no subjective emotional core, then he would not need to keep his personal life hidden. But, he is very sensitive to rejection from those with whom he has emotional ties. This shows that his mind really is integrated around personal feelings.
I speak here from personal experience, for, as far as I can tell, I began life as an INTJ. In fact, I suggest that most INTJs are either Perceiver or Contributor persons. Why? Because these two styles both have conscious access to Perceiver thought and they can both see how vulnerable Perceiver confidence is to Mercy pressure. Thus, it is natural for these two styles to emphasize what is conscious, and then defend it by suppressing subjective feeling.
So, am I a typical INTJ hypocrite? Not any more. For years I have struggled to escape from the emotional suppression practiced by the INTJ by integrating facts with feeling. To the extent that I have succeeded in bridging T/F through personal transformation, to that extent I have emerged from the fundamental hypocrisy of the INTJ.[UUUUUUU]
Moving further, hidden within the T/F separation of the typical INTJ is a P/J split. This is because the mental operation of the INTJ depends upon the subjective core that he suppresses. Remember that Perceiver facts cannot ever exist as independententities. Rather, they are connections between Mercy memories. Facts are gathered as Perceiver strategy looks through its ‘window’ into Mercy thought and notices similarities and differences in the ever-flowing stream of Mercy experiences.[VVVVVVV] But what determines which experiences flow by Perceiver thought? Exhorter strategy. Exhorter mode is naturally attracted to experiences with strong emotions. These fill Mercy thought and are then categorized by Perceiver thinking.
Therefore, the attention of the INTJ is driven by the very subjective core that he is suppressing. Subconsciously, in Mercy and Exhorter thought, his mind is continually being attracted to emotional situations in his environment. The INTJ responds by suppressing the feelings and working out the facts. In order to Judge the external world, his mind must always contain a subconscious, suppressed fragment which operates in MBTI® Perceiving.

We will often act without regard to positive reinforcement. We regularly will plow through, if not seek unfortunate situations and will shake off conditioned responses. Neither the pleasure nor the pain controls us, but we are fully aware of the torment.

Recall, both times I went homeless, it was voluntary in search of something more important. How long could you last in a self created torment? Could you do it out of necessity, knowing you had no choice if you were going to solve some more fundamental issues larger than yourself?

And yes, we are harsh and negative, the eternal optimist always is.

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 2:31am

SM… May I suggest that you read any relevant posts and threads before getting all confrontational on a person.

The_Golden_Turd · November 25, 2016, 2:36am

She is using her intuition, like you told her to.

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 2:42am

I shall leave you… to your views… on me.

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 2:57am

…or just throwing her weight around by entering the discussion in such a bullish manner… no need.

The_Golden_Turd · November 25, 2016, 6:11am

Was clearly a need, you were attacking us.

If a bunch of white people start picking on a brown person where you live, what do other brown people do? They rush to their collective defence. Some for vaginas, distressed vaginas come together to defend one another. Same goes for INTJs, it is a tight brotherhood. Bros before Hoes.

A_Shieldmaiden · November 25, 2016, 6:28am

WTF… so you pointedly leave SM out. HA! How crass you are.

Fortunately I have no desire to be a member of the sisterhood.

Do we? We are on a Philosophy Forum are we not?

Do you ever listen to yourself. Yeww

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 11:54am

…proof that you are 100% on the wind up.

This ain’t suburban London in the 70s you know, and as a pre-teen back then something I never witnessed or had to endure… my circle then being family, RC school, church, and neighbors/playing in our local park. Due to the sheer size and good-looking charms of my dad everyone was our best friend.

People here come to anyone’s aid… regardless of colour, and I and others have done so many a time on the high street where I live… all regardless of colour. Something the US needs to work on.

I am not good with other females (apart from my mum and sisters… they ain’t got a choice ) so other females just don’t come to my aid and instead they stick together and work against me. Poor me huh.

INTJs don’t band together to bully others, and we are comfortable in the silent company of the other… we do not create uneccessary noise or attention-seek, but you would know that wouldn’t you.

MagsJ · November 25, 2016, 12:07pm

…and yet there is nothing philosophical about your exchanges to me, but only negativity and attack. Do you think it appropriate to talk to some in that manner?

The_Golden_Turd · November 25, 2016, 3:13pm

That is such a ESFJ thing to say.

Ultimate_Philosophy · November 25, 2016, 3:42pm

Agreed. We bully alone, people who need a group to bully are fags, circle-jerkers and cowards. They are a bunch of pathetic imps.

Groups are for conducting business. The point of bullying is to bully alone, you need to be able to stand your ground.