What is philosophy limited to?
I’m not limiting it to anything. All I am saying is that “smoking pot makes you more philosophical” does not necessarily follow from “smoking pot makes some people more productive.” Which is to say, for anyone who knows their product, some pot makes some people lethargic, some pot makes some people more productive and all pot effects all people differently.
I was suggesting that not necessarily productivity but the hallucinogenic properties as they do in general can lead one into philosophical thinking… and can allow for variant thoughts for which one gains interest and pursues philosophically… further marijuana seems to aid interpersonal communication with less anxiety in some which contributes to philosophical development of ideas…
And personally I have had some very philosophical ideas while stoned…
Saying that something does not necessarily follow implies that nonetheless their are at least some cases wherein it is reasonable or probable that it does… in that such is probable it seems inductively valid and in my opinion sound to say that weed can aid philosophical thinking, and perhaps induce it.
Hallucination is not philosophy. Thinking I can fly and subsequently leaping out of a high window, falling to my death, is not philosophy. Hence, you have the impression of being philosophical.
As per “philosophical ideas” when you are high, you cannot guarantee that these ideas would not be considered when sober, or if you could [guarantee you would not consider them if sober], then their validity is brought into question. I will not disagree if you suggest that pot can enhance creativity in some individuals, but it can only operate on a preexisting resource (the Beatles were not great because they did LSD, they were great and did LSD).
My point is that your ability to think clearly, especially when entertaining the ideas of another rather than simply orating a schizophrenic monologue with no apparent point, is somewhat diminished on average. If you can remain honest, please read a few pages from the following link next time you are nice and high, reading each sentence only once, and report to us how well you understood the concepts therein. Please only engage this experiment if you feel certain you will report accurately even if you find that you retained virtually none of the information.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7275355/Jean-Baudrillard-Simulacra-and-Simulation
You also may want to try writing ideas down when you are high and reviewing them while sober.
My personal experience tells me that I was not able to understand (or finish one sentence without drifting into day dreams) Anti-Oedipus by Deleuze and Guattari after smoking pot. I could play music with a perceived increase in creativity, but upon reviewing the recordings, I was somewhat disappointed as I had remembered playing quite a bit better than I apparently did. The same was perceived with my writing. My illustration, however, did present an increase in productivity, skill and creativity. Due to these experiences, I refrain from partaking unless offered…which is rare.
After further consideration, it occurs to me that I may just get/have gotten really good product, which is highly probable.
I did not say that hallucination is philosophy, I said that hallucinating can contribute to philosophical thinking…those are two very different proposals.
regardless of lack of guarantee that does not rule out the possibililty… you just as well cannot say that taking LSD did not lead to particular thoughts that would have otherwise not have occurred, that while they might could have thought such without, in particular individuals under particular circumstances using LSD can serve as a circumstance in which one is likely to experience thought that likely would not have occurred otherwise.
i might add that it may be silly to try to do such as it is obvious that any alteration to the mind is going to result in differences in capacity to do things that are considered normal capacities while likewise potential exponentiation other capacities… I find it highly unlikely that there are no natural substances that improve particular mental capacities and further unlikely that some of those things that do don’t also get a person high…(as “high” can simply be considered experiencing a state of mind that is different in such a manner that is interesting…) It will likely be a while till the next time I get stoned… not sure how long …more then a week though…most likely…
one must further question whether the means of understanding and connecting things under particular states of mind are not so altered when returning to our “normal” state that of course it seems silly considering we have lost the capacity to make connection in that manner.
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You also may want to try writing ideas down when you are high and reviewing them while sober.
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Do that all the time…
Of course it alters what results of taking in information such as reading or even watching a movie. It can increase imagination response or rather connection productivity with regards to stimulation and as such distract one from the intended point and yet result often in alternate ideas influenced by yet beyond what was there. Oddly in the case of learning new math weed doesn’t seem to help but in doing math already well known I remember finding myself performing more officently including making less mistakes but further (regardless of being with math) weed aids me in establishing broader and more connections for which to then latter more easily remember things specifically in the long term. And I personally find that what studies have shown as a reduction in short term memory is not a reduction so much as a lack of attention due to more frequent production of connective thoughts. In other words one is to self distracted by increase thought productivity to sometimes focus as well on particular things. Especially in cases where the things to be focused on are of a category that has less room for broadly multiple connections, and thus is less “interesting”.
Pot should continue to be illegal because it’s better for the world to have everyone thinking like mindless drones, with literally no spiritual aspect to their lives in any part of their work-filled day. That’s how the human race will progress. By doing that.
I can’t stand it when people want to think more creatively, or what to maybe explore other areas of their minds. No one said you could do that, so why are you trying to do it? OK? Just listen to the politicians because they have your best interests at heart. It might not seem like it, but every 4 years they say so and I believe them because the thought that the government isn’t looking out of my best interests is literally insanity, and I refuse to ever, ever, entertain or engage that line of thinking.
Maybe do drugs if someone offers you (on rare occasion) but don’t ever fall into the trap of thinking that any drug, in any way, can be useful. It’s always a waste of time. Because my experience is the experience you will have. For sure. They’re all a complete waste of time. It’s basically like burning time. Igniting the days of your life. Only an idiot would do drugs.
Creativity should be the lowest priority for everyone. I believe all citizens, unless specifically told so, should always be sober. That’s how the human race will properly evolve. Drugs don’t speed up (psychological) evolution. Being sober speeds up evolution. Plus it’s just easier cause I don’t like seeing people who are too different from me. It makes me uncomfortable at a semi-consciousl level to even think that someone I’m remotely physically close anyone who might be under the influence of a drug----because even if it’s not harming anyone, it’s still mildly annoying so I think everyone should basically do exactly as I say.
Of course, I mean ‘illegal’ drugs when say this. Basically the legal drugs are OK to use, but the illegal ones are inherently bad and that can only change if the law changes. Because laws change the inherent attributes to drugs.
You better not have been the one to vote for it to be legal…Authority Figure…cause that will in appropriately proportion the poll 
So you feel it is to keep “free thinkers” at bay whereas I feel it is to funnel consumers to legal products that are currently taxable and don’t threaten tree based paper production and petroleum industries for non-fuel industrial applications…you really think politicians are worried about a bunch of hippies dropping acid in a field and producing art house films? Why is everything culture suppression and gloom/doom “the government wants to enslave/kill us all” conspiracy theory bullshit? There are real issues at stake that need to be addressed. This kind of delusive paranoid crap is why people have such a negative view about drugs.
…fool needs to learn how to have control over his trip, lest he kill the fun for all of us.
Just sayin’, my friend, you’re not getting local initiatives through by walking up to the court house and raving on and on about conspiracy theories for cultural suppression/destruction. Counter-intuitively (or maybe just intuitively), monologues like yours are simply fuel for your enemy’s fire. You prove their case to the normals.
According to your logic they could just make weed legal and tax it, and make perhaps trillions of dollars. But they don’t. You touch on a good point: Why is the earth being, pretty much on every natural front, purposefully demolished? Why do we just derpcut the rainforests like fucking cancers? And then who is now stepping in saying ‘Whoa, hold on guys, humans are the problem… don’t you see? Please submit to a full-fledged world dictatorship with these weird occult undertones.’ That’s the plan. They pretty much said it would happen this way in the Club of Rome’s ‘The Next Global Revolution’ written however long ago, and free for download. It’s all there. It always is. There are no conspiracies…
Pretty much every writer on the subject of control agree it starts in the mind. All ‘movements’ are planned, and the art which works in accordance with it are adopted by the establishment. (That’s why emo bands are popular, and why on the whole while males in the west are being turned into emasculated dweebs. The plan is androgyny for the simpleton masses. The complete destruction of the nuclear family, and all child education state-run and group-orientated.) If you don’t think controlling what art is produced, or controlling the ability to produce art in certain ways is controlled then you’re out of your mind, or have never thought about this seriously. That’s where it all starts. There are entire thinktanks dedicated to just this front alone. Then you add in GMO food, certain unknown electronic things we’ll get into later, and chemtrails, you’ve got a recipe for zombies.
Some of the people reading see jibberish. Some people see less jibberish. Someone has to say it, ultimately; the truth, no matter how fractured or whatever, comes out eventually. Imagine the world without conspiracy theorists? I mean, come on. That is literally hell.
I was thinking… what if they invented focused EMP beams? and thus could nock out specified vehicles in civilian situations and war situations if dire…?
And then people read things like this and say 'fuck, that is seriously depressing. So incomprehensibly bleak to know that everything is planned, and if I even have free will in a philosophical way, I don’t in any functional way. So which I say, ‘it’s not, really, the true nature of existence is beautiful – but until you see that clearly, vape/smoke up!’