philosophy in film

The age of AIDS—20 years on.

Medication time. The body leads, the mind follows. Pills and cigarettes. Tired of living, scared of dying.

As much as anything this is a film about growing old. And getting sicker by the day. And being gay or straight doesn’t make that go away. We all have [or will have] our own unique vantage point here. And our own unique narrative for coping. Some will work, some will not. But it seems the most reasonable way in which to approach it is always this: “whatever works”.

But that is only until you bump into another rendition of that—one that fucks with yours.

And here money really counts. It’s like living in two different worlds: having or not having it. Or three if you count those who barely have it.

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Pierre is a 58-year-old gay man who was hustler in his youth. He is no longer considered desirable and now finds himself in the reverse position: He is the one paying for sex.

Trust me: That’s the least of it.

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=vd9fSeCXz9I

BEFORE I FORGET [Avant Que J’oublie]
Written and directed by Jacques Nolot

[b]Jacques: My great joy is to sit there and read.
Pierre: You’re lucky to like reading.
Jacques: It’s true, you lack that.
Pierre: It’s my best sleeping pill. One page and I’m asleep.

Pierre: Those are fears for queens. Like the fags who dress up as Nazis for a thrill. When I want a scare I go to the projects. That’s real.

Pierre listens to a tape: “A philosopher who talks of stupidity is always suspect. Who does he think he is? As if by talking of imbeciles, one can exclude oneself. As if stupidity is the only subject which doesn’t apply to oneself. How could stupidity be the exception to the rule it stems from? Stupidity kills novelty as surely as routine kills love. It is disappointed intelligence which cannot understand life in depth…Stupidity freezes movement, transforms new ideas into received ideas, aphorisms into proverbs, critical thinking into sentimentality…Stupidity reduces the world to Oneself, difference to identity, like a doctrinaire approach…Stupidity immunizes against the suffering of others. Stupidity doesn’t think, but it’s indispensible in the same way that men without courage shout along with the crowd. Stupidity always has the last word. It’s always right.”[/b]

And how can it not, being objective?

[b]Pierre [on phone]: I just…I just shit myself. It’s not funny. I’m depressed. I’m going home.

Pierre [to his psychiatrist]: Apart from cocks, sun and bars, not much interested me. Not even money. Though I was a hustler. If you asked Toutoune what’s happened in the past 20 years, he’d tell you Lady Diana died. AIDS and all that doesn’t matter. When I told him I was HIV positive, he said, “It’s the best gift you could give me.”…I’m afraid. I think about suicide. I can’t write. I doubt.

Pierre: In the bars your’re old at 40.

Pierre: At least I wrote. It cost me a coronary, a coma and a heart valve, but I wrote. Now I am at a loss. Toutoune will have to die. It’s terrible.
Jacques: You’ll inherit? At our age, having money is the best thing that an happen.

Pierre: Except suicide, not much interests me.
Jacques: Drop the subject.
Pierre: Why? It’s not scary. It’s part of life.
Jacques: Please!
Pierre: You’re like a shrink. Talk of suicide with a smile, and you don’t believe it. I’ve known lots of suicides who were in top form.

Pierre [on the phone reading the side effects of the AIDS “triple therapy”]: “Is likely to cause side effects” – likely do you hear me – “diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, dizziness, pancreatic inflamation, respiatory troubles, kidney failure, hair loss, anemia, faintness, skin rashes and liver ailments that could become life threatening” – wait, it’s not finished – “fever blisters, mouth sores, eye inflamation, swelling in the face, severe kidney and live disorders.”[/b]

The cure being worse than the disease syndrome.

Pierre: I’ll just kick off like this. Not with the face of an Auschwitz victum.

Now here is a woman with balls. And not the kind put on display when folks huff and puff about doing the right thing “philosophically”.

It’s surely as close as I will probably come to approaching these things “objectively”. Not that I would have had the balls myself. At least I don’t imagine I would. Atheists are, by and large, physical cowards. But who is to say. Life, after all, really is existential. You’ve got to be there to find out.

Bottom line: It’s one thing to “buck the system” in a democracy today, another thing altogether in Nazi Germany. Of course, it bolsters your convictions [and courage] significantly when you truly believe you have God on your side. That Salvation is there waiting for you on the other side. Which she did.

Means of execution: the guillotine.

Sophie Scholl at wiki:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl

IMDb

[b]This film’s opening prologue states: “This film is based on historical facts, as yet unpublished transcripts, and new interviews with witnesses.”

As the end credits roll, pictures of the real Sophie Scholl, her brother Hans and Christoph Probst are shown.

The execution scene was, ironically, shot in a morgue. “It was a shock, especially the smell,” recalls Julia Jentsch. “I’d never smelled that before. I was very uncomfortable. But the team is there, and someone eats a sandwich… It’s grotesque.”[/b]

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=XM5A4ETW_Io

SOPHIE SCHOLL: THE FINAL DAYS [Sophie Scholl - Die letzten Tage]
Directed by Marc Rothemund

[b]Mohr: …you used peaceful means.
Sophie: So why do you punish us?
Mohr: Becasue it’s the law. Without law there is no order.
Sophie: The law you’re referring to protected free speech before the Nazis came to power in 1933. Someone who speaks freely now is imprisoned or put to death. Is that order?
Mohr: What can we rely on if not the law? No matter who wrote it.
Sophie: On your conscience.
Mohr: Nonsense…What would happen if everyone separately decided what is right and wrong?

Sophie: Without Hitler and his party there’d be law and order for everyone. Everyone would be safe from arbitrary acts. Not only the yes-men.

Sophie: We have only tried to convince people with words.

Sophie: Do you realize how shocked I was to find out that the Nazis used gas and poison to dispose of mentally ill children? My mother’s friends told us. Trucks came to pick up the children at the mental hospital. The other children asked where they were going. “They’re going to heaven,” said the nurses. So the children got on the truck singing. You think I wasn’t raised right, because I felt pity for them?

Hans [to the court]: If you and Hitler weren’t afraid of our opinion, we wouldn’t be here.

Sophie [to the court]: You will soon be standing where we stand now.

Freisler: In the name of the German people, in the criminal case against Hans Fritz Scholl from Munich, Sophia Magdalena Scholl from Munich, and Christoph Hermann Probst from Aldrans, the people’s court has reached a verdict following court proceedings on 22 February, 1943: The defendants published leaflets at a time of war, calling for people to sabotage armaments, and to overthrow our people’s National Socialist way of life. They propagated defeatist ideas and visciously insulted the Fuhrer. By so doing, they aided the enemy and demoralized our troops. They are therefore sentenced to death. They lose their rights as citizens for all time. They bear the cost of the trial.
Sophie: Your terror will soon be over!
Hans: You may hang us today, but you’ll be hanged tomorrow.

Wärterin: If you want to write a farewell letter, do it quickly.
Sophie: Today? I thought everbody has 99 days.
Wärterin [shakes her head]: Better start writing.

Sophie: Please don’t worry. I’d do the same again.
Father: You did the right thing. I’m proud of you both.
Mother: My little girl.
Sophie: Mama. How bravely you stand by me.
Mother: Now you’ll never come through our door again.
Sophie: We’ll meet in eternity.
Mother: Don’t forget, Sophie. Jesus.
Sophie: Yes, mother. But you neither.

Sophie [to Mohr]: I just said goodbye to my mother and father. You’ll understand.[/b]

There are any number of folks today who’d be stumped watching this: “I don’t get it. What’s the point?”

Among other things, this:

"It is not only species of animal that die out. But whole species of feeling. And if you are wise you will never pity the past for what it did not know. But pity yourself for what it did.” John Fowles

This film either hits you in the gut or goes over your head—missing you completely. It helps to be of a certain age. It helps to have grown up in a small town.

Your first best friend. Your first true love. Your first orgasm.

Hell, your first lots of things.

And watching the film you know that everything depicted actually did take place. As noted below, the names of the people weren’t even changed.

Still, imagine if the situation were reversed and it was an adult male having this relationship with a teenage girl? He is 15.

IMDb

[b]Though author Herman Raucher admits to moving the order of certain events around and interchanging some dialogue, the movie is (according to those involved) an accurate depiction of events in Raucher’s life in the summer of 1942 on Nantucket Island; he didn’t even change anyone’s name.

Raucher was severely depressed about not hearing from Dorothy after she left him.

During an interview on The Mike Douglas Show, Herman Raucher said that after the novel and movie were released, several women wrote letters to him claiming to be Dorothy. One of the letters was indeed from the real Dorothy, who wanted to know if she had psychologically damaged Raucher, and also informed him that she had been happily remarried and was now a grandmother. It was the last time that Raucher, by that time married with children, heard from Dorothy.[/b]

SUMMER OF '42 [1971]
Directed by Robert Mulligan

[b]Hermie [narrating as an adult]: Nothing from that first day I saw her, and no one that has happened to me since, has ever been as frightening and as confusing. For no person I’ve ever known has ever done more to make me feel more sure, more insecure, more important, and less significant.

[the three friends are gawking at a medical journal about sex]
Oscy: Now listen! Before I saw these pictures, I didn’t think it was possible, either. But these are pictures, Benjie, pictures! These aren’t drawings! I’ve seen those drawings! These are pictures!

Benji: Hey Oscy, it’s that lady again.
Oscy: Ah Hermie, you’re not gonna go into another deathlike trance again, are you?

Dorothy: Oh, you drink coffee, don’t you?
Hermie: [trying to sound like an adult] … I consume a couple of cups a day.
Dorothy: Well, I have milk.
Hermie: Oh, no. I take it black.

Oscy: Lila Harrison, your record is safe!

Hermie [reading from the medical journal on sex]: What the hell is this in number four?
Oscy: That’s Latin.

Oscy: Point six, Hermie, very important.
Hermie: Foreplay.
Oscy: Right! That word keeps cropping up.

Hermie: Look, Oscy, if I follow these 12 points, she just might end up with a kid. And I can’t afford a kid at this stage in my life.

Oscy: Not even the BEST of friends go half-sies on a rubber.

Druggist: Do you know what these are for?
Hermie: Sure. You fill them up with water, and then you throw them off the roof.
Druggist: Well, I just wanted to make sure you knew what they were for.

Hermie: What number are you up to?
Oscy: Six.
Hermie: Six? Six is foreplay! You up to six?
Oscy: Yeah, but that crazy Miriam. She’s up to nine! She’s ruining my timing!

Hermie [to Dorothy after reading the telegram]: I’m sorry.

Dorothy [in a letter]: Dear Hermie: I must go home now. I’m sure you’ll understand. There’s much I have to do. I won’t try and explain what happened last night because I know that, in time, you’ll find a proper way in which to remember it. What I will do is remember you. And I pray that you be spared all senseless tragedies. I wish you good things, Hermie. Only good things. Always, Dorothy.

Hermie [narrating as an adult]: I was never to see her again. Nor was I ever to learn what became of her. We were different then. Kids were different. It took us longer to understand the things we felt. Life is made up of small comings and goings. And for everything we take with us, there is something that we leave behind. In the summer of '42, we raided the Coast Guard station four times, we saw five movies, and had nine days of rain. Benji broke his watch, Oscy gave up the harmonica, and in a very special way, I lost Hermie forever.[/b]

From the Summer of '42 to…this. And some folks wonder why other folks don’t see the world the way they do. Just try to imagine a conversation between Hermie and Fresh!

But I wasn’t there mysef so I have to take the word of others that what you are seeing is a realistic portrayal of how it was.
One thing for sure: It’s a whole differenct rendition of Searching For Bobby Fisher.

What this film does remarkably well is to juxtapose Fresh the kid [like all the other kids] and Fresh the street-wise drug runner.

And then there’s Chuckie. And poor Roscoe.

Got a 90% rating at RT:
rottentomatoes.com/m/fresh/

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[b]Marketed as a hip hop 'hood film, Fresh went relatively unnoticed by the public, but won critical acclaim. An emotional coming of age story, it offers a realistic glimpse of the dangerous life in New York City’s projects during the crack epidemic.

Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times gave the film four out of four stars and called it “a movie filled with drama and excitement, unfolding a plot of brilliant complexity”. He praised Nelson’s performance as “extraordinary” and found its plot “focused and perceptive”, praising it for its social commentary:

“Violent death is a fact of life in America today. Guns have made our cities unsafe for children. What Fresh does is bring a new perspective to those facts, in the form of both drama and thriller. This is not an action film, not a clever, superficial thriller, but a story of depth and power, in which the dangerous streets are seen through the eyes of a 12-year-old who reacts with the objectivity he has learned from chess, and the anger taught to him by his life.”[/b]

Note: some explicit language

FRESH
Written and directed by Boaz Yakin

[b]Cousin: Michael?
Fresh: What?
Cousin: Why you come home so late? You know Aunt Francis be gettin’ worried when you come home so late. It’s hard enough on her without you be worryin’ her all the time. If she gets too fed up and gives all of us up, I’m gonna kill you. ‘Cause ain’t none of us can go back to our parents…and I ain’t goin’ back to no group home, you hear me? You my cousin and all, we all cousins here…but if you ruin it for the rest of us, I’m gonna kill you.

Corky [to Fresh]: You one bad motherfucker. Only reason you ain’t the man is you still too goddamn little, but, when you get bigger, you gonna be the man.

Fresh: Mate in four.
Opponent in the park: Fuck you. Ain’t no mate in no four. Fuck you.
Fresh: Would have been four if you were smart. Mate.

Sam [Fresh’s dad]: Chess ain’t fun, boy. How many times I gotta tell you that? Don’t you listen to a word I say?
Fresh: Maybe if I seen you more.
Sam: Well, you don’t, so you’d be well served to retain some of the knowledge I’m impartin’ to you rather than giving me all your hard-ass street-attitude bullshit…Ain’t so much fun now, is it? Gettin’ to be less and less fun every second here. Uh-uh, think about it. Forget the clock for a second, Michael. What kind of player am I? Am I an offensive man or a defensive man? That’s right; I’m neither. I play my opponent. If he likes to attack, I force him to defend himself. If he’s a cautious man, I draw him into dangerous waters. See, you get so frustrated playing defensive positions you make stupid moves you’d never make if you were thinkin’. When you come here, boy, check that shit at the door.

Strung out girl: Look, maybe I better talk to Jake myself, you know?
Fresh: You know you don’t be talkin’ to Jake. You know that.
Strung out girl: Look, you tell Jake that I’ll suck his dick good, okay? You tell him I’ll suck him off real nice.
Fresh: Damn, you know Jake down with them fine bitches. Why he want that from you?
Strung out girl: All right, listen, how about you and me, baby? We get in that car, I’ll suck your sweet little dick for ten bucks.
Fresh: Get out of my face, bitch.
Strung out girl: Okay, how about I let you fuck me? Okay? I let you bang this good thing if you just ask Jake to talk to me…
Fresh [slapping her in the face]: Get out of here! Go over to Lenny. He be likin’ them no-tooth, old bitches like you!
[Jake is in the background laughing his ass off]

James: You Michael, huh? I guess you used up all the ugly in the family.

James [to Fresh]: You the little man running the street? Shit…Next thing I know niggers in diapers packing tec-9 and be trying to take over my business.

Fresh: Why you don’t go to Esteban then?
Nicole: I don’t like the way he looks at me. I don’t need no spic pimp motherfucker looking at me like no fuckin’ queen. I’m just a sorry-ass nigger whore.

Fresh: Don’t Aunt Frances think you ain’t nothing. She think you’re something.
Nichole: Aunt Frances is a fuckin’ saint. Aunt Frances loves every damn dog on the street the same as she loves me. Ain’t no shit to be loved by no fuckin’ saint.

Sam: You like that horse, don’t you? You like his crazy jumps all over the board. Think he’s your friend, hate to lose him…almost as much as you hate to lose that lady, Well, he is your friend, boy. They all are. But you’re gonna have to use him, just like you use the others. If he falls by the wayside, well, that’s just life’s little game, ain’t it? And until you come ready to play her game, you’ll never beat her at it.

Fresh: You’re losing to homeboy Shipman too.
Sam: Well, he’s a U.S. Grand Master. That’s right. He don’t go to the park. But he comes here to play me.
Fresh: He’s winning.
Sam: Yeah, yeah, I know he’s winning. But let me tell you something. Put the clock on him, put the show on speed I chew his ass right up. See that picture there? That’s Pal Benko. That there’s Bruce Pandolfini. That’s Mikael Botvinnik. And that’s Paul Keres. Played all them boys. Sometimes I won. Mostly I lost. But you put the show on speed I chew all they asses up. All them Grand Masters and them Europeans with they government subsidies and whatnot to sit on they asses and play all day… they ain’t livin’in the world. Put the clock on ‘em, put the heat on they backs, they break down. Put ‘em in the park fishin’ for dollars, and they break. That’s Bobby Fisher, Some say he’s the greatest player to ever play the game. I never played him. All them patzers sittin’ around the park waitin’ for him to go back there like Jesus. Me, I don’t give a shit. Put the clock on that motherfucker I’ll chew his ass up just like the rest of’em. Chew it right up.

Fresh: All them niggers be on Nicole all the time…
Sam: Don’t be talkin’ that trash. I don’t wanna hear that goddamn word out of your mouth!
Fresh: I’m gonna say what I want. You can’t tell me nothin’. I ain’t even seeing you.

Estaban: I got some very important shit for my man Fresh to do. Why should I take you on too?
Chuckie: I got the dope moves.
Estaban: You got what?
Chuckie: I got stupid juice, I bust the stupid move.
Estaban: Chuckie, huh? It was nice meeting you, Chuck.

Chuckie: You know what’s whack? When I’m down with the posse or home and shit and everybody be screaming and yelling and shit? It gets real lonesome. It be like crowded and noise and screaming. And suddenly, it feels like I’m the only one there.
Fresh: The more people there is, the lonelier it get.

Aunt Frances: I’m sorry, Michael. That’s the way it’s gotta be. If it were just me, I wouldn’t even consider it but I got 11 other children to mind. They all scared to walk out the door with you to school. They even scared to sleep at night case somebody’s gonna come and shoot down the doors. I spoke to Miss Patterson at the Bushwick Group Home. She says there’s gonna be an opening next month. I’m sorry about your friend, I’m sorry about all your friends but you should have known better. I’m gonna miss you, Michael.

Corky: You know what this is? Look at it! What is it?
Fresh: Look like base.
Corky: That’s right, little man. Five thousand dollars worth of pure base cocaine. You didn’t even look to see what you was carrying, did you? You’re just a little kid in way over his head, I know that. But Esteban gotta be sent a message about horning in on my business.
[picks up a chain]
Corky: I’m afraid you gonna have to be my little telegram.

Fresh: I ain’t run no base for no Esteban.
Corky: Oh no? Who was it for then, Santa Claus?
[slaps Fresh]
Corky: Who was it for?
Fresh: He gonna kill me if I say.
Corky: [Drops Fresh on the floor] I’m gonna ice you right now if you don’t!

Esteban: Where’d you come to find out about all these interesting developments?
[no response]
Esteban: Look, time is money and money is time little homey, and right now you are costing me a lot of both.
Fresh: You gonna get mad. You gonna get real mad.

Herbie: It’s over right, shit, it’s done right?
Fresh: Look done to me.

Nicole: You don’t own me. I’m nobody’s slave.
Estaban: No. You are a slave to the pudra blanca…the god of white dreams, and I am his master, me. And as long as he is mine, so are you. You are mine.

Detective Perez: You’re gonna have to move, all right? We’re gonna find someplace for you to move to.
Fresh: My sister too. It ain’t gonna be safe for her, neither. You gotta move her too.
Perez: Your sister too, She’s gonna be as safe as you are. We’ll find you somewhere together, okay?
Fresh: I don’t wanna live in no more projects.[/b]

Here’s a film so good that even when you finally do figure out you have been duped regarding what you have invested 2 hours of your life watching you’re only thought is, “I want to see it again.”

And really: Even to this day no one can be entirely sure what was true and what was made up.

Full disclosure: I have seen this film many times but I’m still not entirely sure myself I understand what the hell is going on.

In other words, it has what is considered by many to be one of the best cinematic plot twist of all time.

The devil here is in the details. But when you’re making them up as you go along the devil becomes a kind of…shape shifter?

In part this is a tale for the other 99% sitting on the couch watching it all unfold. And 99% of them are [gasp!] men.

IMDb

[b]The idea for this movie started only with the concept of a movie poster of five of guys in a lineup.

Christopher McQuarrie’s inspiration for the character of Keyser Soze was a real-life murderer by the name of John List, who murdered his family and then disappeared for 17 years.

When Redfoot flicks his cigarette into the face of McManus, it was originally intended to hit his chest, so McManus’ reaction is actually Stephen Baldwin’s real unscripted reaction that Bryan Singer decided to keep in the movie.

Christopher Walken, Tommy Lee Jones, Jeff Bridges, Charlie Sheen, James Spader, Al Pacino and Johnny Cash were all offered the part of Redfoot, the LA fence.

Neither Bryan Singer or Christopher McQuarrie realized that the film’s famous line, “the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”, was actually a quote from French poet Baudelaire.

Actor Gabriel Byrne, when asked at a film festival, “Who is Keyser Soze?” replied, “During shooting and until watching the film tonight, I thought I was!”

In an interview on The Colbert Report, Kevin Spacey revealed that Bryan Singer managed to convince every one of the major actors that they were Keyser Soze. When first screened for the company of actors, Gabriel Byrne was so stunned when he found that he wasn’t Keyser Soze that he stormed off into the parking lot and argued with Singer for a half hour.[/b]

wiki

While embraced by most viewers and critics, the film was the subject of harsh derision by some. Roger Ebert, in a review for the Chicago Sun-Times, gave the film one and a half stars out of four, considering it confusing and uninteresting. He also included the movie in his “most hated films” list.

Huh?!

THE USUAL SUSPECTS
Directed by Bryan Singer

[b]Cop: [police break into McManus’s apartment while he sleeps] Mr. McManus?
McManus: [waking] Christ, don’t you fucking guys ever sleep?

Cop: Todd Hockney?
Hockney: Who wants to know?
Cop: New York Police Department.
[Hockney drops his screwdriver, sighs and reaches under the body of the car]
Cop: Shit! Freeze! Hold it!
[Hockney actually pulls out a red cloth with which he uses to wipe his face]
Hockney: You sure you brought enough guys?

Interrogation Cop: I can put you in Queens on the night of the hijacking.
Hockney: Really? I live in Queens. Did you put that together yourself, Einstein? What, do you got a team of monkeys working around the clock on this?

Keaton: I’m a businessman now.
Interrogation Cop: Yeah? What’s that, the restaurant business? No. From now on, you’re in the gettin’-fucked-by-us business.

Fenster: If they treat me like a criminal, I’ll end up a criminal.
Hockney: You are a criminal.

[after being strip-searched]
Fenster: Man, I had a finger up my asshole tonight.
Hockney: Is it Friday already?

Verbal: [referring to Rabin] That guy is tense. Tension is a killer. I used to be in a barbershop quartet in Skokie, Illinois. The baritone was this guy named Kip Diskin, big fat guy, I mean, like, orca fat. He was so stressed in the morning…

Hockney: Wanna dance?

Verbal: The DA gave me immunity.
Kujan: Not from me. You get no immunity from me, you piece of shit. Every criminal I have put in prison, every cop that owes me a favor, every creep and scumbag that walks the streets for a living will know the name of Verbal Kint. Now you talk to me, or that precious immunity they seem so fit to grant you won’t be worth the paper the contract put out on your life is printed on.

Keaton: Hey, uh…friend of mine in New York tells me that you know, that you knew Spook Hollis.
Redfoot: The way I hear it, you did time with old Spook. Good man, wasn’t he? I used to run dope for him. Too bad he got shivved.
Keaton: Yeah…I shivved him. Better you hear it from me now than from somebody else later.
Redfoot: I appreciate that. But just out of curiosity, was it business or personal?
Keaton: A bit of both.

Verbal: A man can convince anyone he’s somebody else, but never himself.

Verbal: Keaton was a cop. To a cop the explanation is never that complicated. It’s always simple. There’s no mystery to the street, no arch criminal behind it all. If you got a dead body and you think his brother did it, you’re gonna find out you’re right.

Verbal: Then Soze showed those men of will what will really was. He shoots his own family. He tells them he would rather see his family dead than live another day without them. He lets the last Hungarian go. He waits until his wife and kids are in the ground and then he goes after the rest of the mob. He kills their kids, he kills their wives, he kills their parents and their parents’ friends. He burns down the houses they live in and the stores they work in, he kills people that owe them money. And like that he was gone. Underground. Nobody has ever seen him since. He becomes a myth, a spook story that criminals tell their kids at night. “Rat on your pop, and Keyser Soze will get you.” And no-one ever really believes.
Kujan: Do you believe in him, Verbal.
Verbal: Keaton always said, “I don’t believe in God, but I’m afraid of him.” Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze.

Keaton: McManus. What the fuck is going on?
McManus: The strangest thing…

Verbal: How do you shoot the devil in the back? What if you miss?

Kujan: Keaton was Keyser Söze!
Verbal: No!
Kujan: The kind of man who can wrangle the wills of men like Hawkney and McManus. The kind of man who could engineer a police line-up, for all these years of contacts in NYPD. The kind of man who could kill Edie Finneran…She was found yesterday in a hotel in Pennsylvania, shot twice in the head.

Verbal: But why me? Why not Fenster or McManus or Hockney? Why me? I’m stupid, I’m a cripple. Why me?
Kujan: Because you’re a cripple Verbal, because you’re stupid. Because you’re weaker than them.

Verbal: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

Verbal: And then like that…he is gone.[/b]

35 years later and it’s come down to this:

“We’re mad as hell, and we’re going to elect Mitt Romney!”
“We’re glad as hell and we’re going to reelect Barack Obama!”

Christ…

This film comes about as close as we are ever likely to in exposing how “the system” really works. In particular, how the corporate media functions to perpetuate it. But even this is just a fairy tale. Done basically as a satire. Can you imagine any of it really happening. About as close as we come to a “systemic critique” these days is…Bill Moyers?

We don’t even have The Wire anymore. Or anything like it.

You don’t watch Network so much as read it. It’s got more ideas packed into its 2 hours than you’re likely to find in all the crap Hollywood produces today over the course of an entire year. Even if you don’t buy the narrative you sure as hell can’t deny the fact it’s a powerful one. And as fully relevant today as it was then. If not more so.

Oh, and keep a disctionary near at hand. You might need it.

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[b]The director and the screenwriter claimed that the film was not meant to be a satire but a reflection of what was really happening.

Beatrice Straight is only on screen for five minutes and forty seconds, making hers the briefest performance ever to win an Oscar.

Walter Cronkite and John Chancellor were approached for the Howard Beale role, but neither was interested. However, Cronkite’s daughter Kathy Cronkite agreed to play left-wing radical Mary Ann Gifford and her character is loosely based on Patricia Hearst.

Sidney Lumet claimed that he wanted to cast Vanessa Redgrave in the film, but Paddy Chayefsky didn’t want her. Lumet argued that he thought she was the greatest English-speaking actress in the world, while Chayefsky, a proud Jew and supporter of Israel, objected on the basis of her support of the PLO. Lumet, himself a Jew, said “Paddy, that’s blacklisting!” to which Chayefsky replied, “Not when a Jew does it to a Gentile.”[/b]

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[b]Part of the inspiration for Chayefsky’s script came from the on-air suicide of television news reporter Christine Chubbuck in Sarasota, Florida two years earlier. The anchorwoman was suffering from depression and battles with her editors, and unable to keep going, she shot herself on camera as stunned viewers watched on July 15, 1974. Chayefsky used the incident to set up his film’s focal point. As he would say later in an interview, “Television will do anything for a rating… anything!”

Not all reviews were positive: Pauline Kael in The New Yorker, in a review subtitled “Hot Air”, criticized the film’s abundance of long, preachy speeches; Chayefsky’s self-righteous contempt for not only television itself but also television viewers; and the fact that almost everyone in the movie, particularly Robert Duvall, has a screaming rant: “The cast of this messianic farce takes turns yelling at us soulless masses.”[/b]

NETWORK
Directed by Sidney Lumet

[b]Howard: No, no. I’m gonna blow my brains out right on the air, right in the middle of the 7 O’clock news.
Max: You’ll get a hell of a rating, I’ll guarantee you that. 50 share easy.

Max: We could make a series of it. “Suicide of the Week.” Aw, hell, why limit ourselves? “Execution of the Week.”
Howard: “Terrorist of the Week.”
Max: I love it. Suicides, assassinations, mad bombers, Mafia hitmen, automobile smash-ups: “The Death Hour.” A great Sunday night show for the whole family. It’d wipe that fuckin’ Disney right off the air.

Howard: I would like, at this point, to announce that I will be retiring from this programme in two weeks’ time because of poor ratings. Since this show was the only thing I had going for me in my life, I have decided to kill myself. I’m going to blow my brains out, right on this programme, a week from today. So tune in next Tuesday. That should give the public-relations people a week to promote the show. We ought to get a hell of a rating out of that. A 50 share, easy.

Diana: Look, we’ve got a bunch of hobgoblin radicals called the Ecumenical Liberation Army who go around taking home movies of themselves robbing banks. Now, maybe they’ll take movies of themselves kidnapping heiresses, hijacking 747s, bombing bridges, assassinating ambassadors. We’d open each week’s segment with their authentic footage, hire a couple of writers to write a story behind that footage, and we’ve got ourselves a series.

Diana: Look, I sent you all a concept analysis report yesterday. Did any of you read it?
[Aides stare blankly at her]
Diana: Well, in a nutshell, it said: “The American people are turning sullen. They’ve been clobbered on all sides by Vietnam, Watergate, the inflation, the depression; they’ve turned off, shot up, and they’ve fucked themselves limp, and nothing helps.” So, this concept analysis report concludes, “The American people want somebody to articulate their rage for them.” I’ve been telling you people since I took this job six months ago that I want angry shows. I don’t want conventional programming on this network. I want counterculture, I want anti-establishment. I don’t want to play butch boss with you people, but when I took over this department, it had the worst programming record in television history. This network hasn’t one show in the top twenty. This network is an industry joke, and we’d better start putting together one winner for next September. I want a show developed based on the activities of a terrorist group, “Joseph Stalin and His Merry Band of Bolsheviks,” I want ideas from you people. This is what you’re paid for. And by the way, the next time I send an audience research report around, you’d all better read it, or I’ll sack the fucking lot of you. Is that clear?

Howard: Good evening. Today is Wednesday, September the 24th, and this is my last broadcast. Yesterday I announced on this program that I was going to commit public suicide, admittedly an act of madness. Well, I’ll tell you what happened: I just ran out of bullshit. Am I still on the air? I really don’t know any other way to say it other than I just ran out of bullshit. Bullshit is all the reasons we give for living. And if we can’t think up any reasons of our own, we always have the God bullshit. We don’t know why we’re going through all this pointless pain, humiliation, decays, so there better be someone somewhere who does know. That’s the God bullshit. And then, there’s the noble man bullshit; that man is a noble creature that can order his own world; who needs God? Well, if there’s anybody out there that can look around this demented slaughterhouse of a world we live in and tell me that man is a noble creature, believe me: That man is full of bullshit. I don’t have anything going for me. I haven’t got any kids. And I was married for thirty-three years of shrill, shrieking fraud. So I don’t have any bullshit left. I just ran out of it, you see.

Diana: [flipping through the newspaper] You know, Barbara, the Arabs have decided to jack up the price of oil another 20%… uh, the CIA has been caught opening Senator Humphrey’s mail… there’s a civil war in Angola… another one in Beirut… the, uh, New York City’s still facing default… they finally caught up with Patricia Hearst… and the whole front page of the “Daily News” is Howard Beale.

Diana [to Max]: I watched your 6 o’clock news today; it’s straight tabloid. You had a minute and a half of that lady riding a bike naked in Central Park; on the other hand, you had less than a minute of hard national and international news. It was all sex, scandal, brutal crime, sports, children with incurable diseases, and lost puppies. So, I don’t think I’ll listen to any protestations of high standards of journalism when you’re right down on the streets soliciting audiences like the rest of us. Look, all I’m saying is if you’re going to hustle, at least do it right.

Diana: By tomorrow, he’ll have a 50 share, maybe even a 60. Howard Beale is processed instant God, and right now, it looks like he may just go over bigger than Mary Tyler Moore.

Frank: I got a hit, Schumacher, and Ruddy doesn’t count any more. He hoped I’d fail with this Beale show, but I didn"t. It’s a big fat big-titted hit and I don’t have to waffle around with Ruddy any more. If he wants to take me up before the CCA, let him. Think Ruddy is stupid enough to go to the board and say “I’m taking our one hit show off the air”? Come November I’ll be there at the annual CCA management review meeting and I’ll announce projected earnings for this network for the first time in five years. Believe me, Mr Jensen’s gonna be rocking back and forth in his little chair, and he’s gonna say “That’s very good, Frank. Keep it up.” So don’t have any illusions about who’s running this network now!

Howard: I don’t have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It’s a depression. Everybody’s out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel’s worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there’s nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there’s no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV’s while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that’s the way it’s supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They’re crazy. It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don’t go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, ‘Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won’t say anything. Just leave us alone.’ Well, I’m not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot - I don’t want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn’t know what to tell you to write. I don’t know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad. You’ve got to say, ‘I’m a HUMAN BEING, God damn it! My life has VALUE!’ So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, ‘I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!’ I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - ‘I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take this anymore!’ Things have got to change. But first, you’ve gotta get mad!.. You’ve got to say, ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!’ Then we’ll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: “I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”

Narrator: By October the Howard Beale show had settled in on a 42 share, more than equalling all the other network news shows combined. In the Nielsen ratings it was listed as the fourth-highest-rated show of the month, surpassed only by “The Six Million Dollar Man”, “All in the Family” and “Phyllis”.

Diana: Hi. I’m Diana Christensen, a racist lackey of the imperialist ruling circles.
Laureen: I’m Laureen Hobbs, a badass commie nigger.
Diana: Sounds like the basis of a firm friendship.

Diana: I’m interested in doing a weekly dramatic series based on the Ecumenical Liberation Army. The way I see the series is: Each week we open with an authentic act of political terrorism taken on the spot, in the actual moment. Then we go to the drama behind the opening film footage. That’s your job, Ms. Hobbs. You’ve got to get the Ecumenicals to bring in that film footage for us. The network can’t deal with them directly; they are, after all, wanted criminals.

Laureen: The Ecumenical Liberation Army is an ultra-left sect creating political confusión with wildcat violence and pseudo-insurrectionary acts, which the Communist Party does not endorse. The American masses are not yet ready for open revolt. We would not want to produce a show celebrating historically deviational terrorism.
Diana: I’m offering an hour a week into which you can stick any propaganda you want.
Laureen: The Ecumenicals are an undisciplined ultra-left gang whose leader is an eccentric to say the least. He calls himself the Great Ahmed Khan and wears a hussar’s shako.
Diana: Ms Hobbs, we’re talking about 30 to 50 million people a shot. Better than handing out Mimeographed pamphlets on ghetto street corners.

Laureen: Well Ahmed, you ain’t gonna believe this. They gonna make a TV star out of you. Just like Archie Bunker. You gonna be a household word.
Great Ahmed Kahn: What the fuck are you talking about?

Howard: [arms outstretched to the heavens] Edward George Ruddy died today! Edward George Ruddy was the Chairman of the Board of the Union Broadcasting Systems, and he died at eleven o’clock this morning of a heart condition, and woe is us! We’re in a lot of trouble! So. A rich little man with white hair died. What has that got to do with the price of rice, right? And why is that woe to us? Because you people, and sixty-two million other Americans, are listening to me right now. Because less than three percent of you people read books! Because less than fifteen percent of you read newspapers! Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, an entire generation that never knew anything that didn’t come out of this tube! This tube is the Gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers. This tube is the most awesome God-damned force in the whole godless world, and woe is us if it ever falls in to the hands of the wrong people, and that’s why woe is us that Edward George Ruddy died. Because this company is now in the hands of CCA - the Communication Corporation of America. There’s a new Chairman of the Board, a man called Frank Hackett, sitting in Mr. Ruddy’s office on the twentieth floor. And when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome God-damned propoganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this network?!

Howard: [ascending the stage] So, you listen to me. Listen to me: Television is not the truth! Television is a God-damned amusement park! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, storytellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, side-show freaks, lion tamers, and football players. We’re in the boredom-killing business! So if you want the truth…Go to God! Go to your gurus! Go to yourselves! Because that’s the only place you’re ever going to find any real truth. But, man, you’re never going to get any truth from us. We’ll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell. We’ll tell you that, uh, Kojak always gets the killer, or that nobody ever gets cancer at Archie Bunker’s house, and no matter how much trouble the hero is in, don’t worry, just look at your watch; at the end of the hour he’s going to win. We’ll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in illusions, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds…We’re all you know. You’re beginning to believe the illusions we’re spinning here. You’re beginning to think that the tube is reality, and that your own lives are unreal. You do whatever the tube tells you! You dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even think like the tube! This is mass madness, you maniacs! In God’s name, you people are the real thing! We are the illusion! So turn off your television sets. Turn them off now. Turn them off right now. Turn them off and leave them off! Turn them off right in the middle of the sentence I’m speaking to you now! TURN THEM OFF…[/b]

Thank god the Internet has come to the rescue! :wink:

[b]Louise: Then get out, go anywhere you want, go to a hotel, go live with her, and don’t come back. Because, after 25 years of building a home and raising a family and all the senseless pain that we have inflicted on each other, I’m damned if I’m going to stand here and have you tell me you’re in love with somebody else. Because this isn’t a convention weekend with your secretary, is it? Or - or some broad that you picked up after three belts of booze. This is your great winter romance, isn’t it? Your last roar of passion before you settle into your emeritus years. Is that what’s left for me? Is that my share? She gets the winter passion, and I get the dotage? What am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to sit at home knitting and purling while you slink back like some penitent drunk? I’m your wife, damn it. And, if you can’t work up a winter passion for me, the least I require is respect and allegiance. I hurt. Don’t you understand that? I hurt badly.

Narrator: “The Mao Tse-tung Hour” went on air March . It received a 47 share. The network promptly committed to 15 shows, with an option for 10 more. There were the usual contractual difficulties.
Suit #1: “…equal to per cent, except that such percentages shall be per cent for -minute or longer televisión programmes.”
Suit#2: Have we settled that sublicensing thing? We want a clear definition here. “Gross proceeds should consist of all funds the sublicensee receives, not merely the net amount remitted after payment to sublicensee or distributor.”
Suit #3: We’re not standing for overhead charges as a cost prior to distribution.
Laureen: Don’t fuck with my distribution costs! I’m making a lousy 215 per segment. I already deficit 25 grand a week with Metro. I pay William Morris ten per cent. I give this turkey ten thou per segment, five to her. Helen, don’t start no shit about a piece again. I pay Metro 20 per cent for all foreign and Canadian distribution, after recoupment. The Communist Party’s not gonna see a nickel until syndication.
Suit #2: Come on, Laureen, the party’s in for 7500 a week production expenses.
Laureen: I’m not givin" this pseudo-insurrectionary sectarian a piece of my show, I ain’t gining him script approval and I sure as shit ain’t cuttin" him in on my distribution charges.
Mary Ann: You fuckin" fascist! Did you see the film we made of the San Marino jail break-out, showing the rising up of a prisoner-class infrastructure?
Laureen: You can blow the prisoner-class infrastructure out your ass. I’m not knocking down my goddamn distribution charges!
Ahmed [firing a revolver]: Man, give her the fuckin" overhead clause. How did I get here? Who’s gonna believe this? Let’s get back to page subsidiary rights. Let’s get back to page 22. Five, small “a”—subsidiary rights
Suit #1" “As used herein, ‘subsidiary rights’ means any and all rights…”

Howard [on the air]:You listen to me, and listen carefully, because this is your goddamn life I’m talking about today. When one company wants to take over another company they buy a controlling share of the stock, but first they have to tell the government. That’s how CCA took over the company that owns this network. But now somebody is buying up CCA. Somebody called the Western Worid Funding Corporation. They filed the notice this morning. Well, just who in the hell is the Western Worid Funding Corporation? It is a consortium of banks and insurance companies who are not buying CCA for themselves but as agents for somebody else. Who is the somebody else? They won’t tell! They won’t tell you, or the Senate, they won’t tell the SEC, the FCC, they won’t tell the Justice Department… I will tell you who they’re buying CCA for. They’re buying it for the Saudi-Arabian Investment Corporation. They are buying it for the Arabs!

Howard [on the air]: We all know that the Arabs control $16 billion in this country. They own a chunk of Fifth Avenue, downtown pieces of Boston. A part of the port of New Orleans. An industrial park in Salt Lake City. They own big hunks of the Atlanta Hilton. The Arizona Land and Cattle Company. The Security National Bank in California. Bank of the Commonwealth in Detroit. They control Aramco, so that puts them into Exxon, Texaco and Mobil oil. They’re all over! New Jersey, Louisville, St Louis, Missouri. And that’s only what we know about. There’s a lot more we don’t know about, because all those Arab petrol dollars are washed through Switzerland, Canada and the biggest banks in this country. For example, what we don’t know about is this CCA deal. And all the other CCA deals. Right now the Arabs have screwed us out of enough American dollars to come right back and, with our own money, buy General Motors, IBM, ITT, AT& T, DuPont, US Steel and 20 other American companies. Hell, they already own half of England! So, listen to me. Listen to me, goddammit. The Arabs are simply buying us. There’s only one thing that can stop them - you. You! So I want you to get up now. I want you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the phone. I want you to get up from your chairs, go to the phone, get in your cars, drive into the Western Unión offices in town. I want you to send a telegram to the White House. By midnight tonight, I want a million telegrams in the White House. I want them wading knee-deep in telegrams at the White House. I want you to get up right now and write a telegram to President Ford saying “I’m as mad as hell and I’m not gonna take this any more.” “I don’t want the banks selling my country to the Arabs.” “I want the CCA deal stopped now.” “I want the CCA deal stopped now.” Come on! I want the CCA deal stopped now. I want the CCA deal stopped now. I want the CCA deal stopped now. I want the CCA deal stopped now…

Frank: Mr. Jensen is unhappy with Howard Beale and wants him discontinued.
Diana: He may be unhappy, but he isn’t stupid enough to withdraw the number one show on television out of pique.
Frank: Two billion dollars is not pique! That’s the Wrath of God! And the Wrath of God wants Howard Beale fired.

Jensen: You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won’t have it! Is that clear? You think you’ve merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. THAT is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU… WILL… ATONE! Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that… perfect world… in which there’s no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.
Howard: Why me?
Jensen: Because you’re on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.
Howard: I have seen the face of God.
Jensen: You just might be right, Mr. Beale.

Narrator: That evening Beale went on air to preach Jensen’s corporate cosmology.
Howard: Last night I got up here and asked you to stand up and fight for your heritage, and you did, and it was beautiful. Six million telegrams were sent to the White House. The Arab takeover of CCA has been stopped. The people spoke, the people won. It was a radiant eruption of democracy. But I think that was it, fellas. That sort of thing is not likely to happen again, because at the bottom of all our terrified souls we know that democracy is a dying giant, a sick, sick, dying, decayed political concept writhing in its final pain. I don’t mean that the United States is finished as a worid power. It is the richest, most powerful, most advanced country in the worid. I don’t mean the communists are gonna take over. They’re deader than we are. What is finished is the idea that this great country is dedicated to the freedom and flourishing of every individual in it. It’s the individual that’s finished. It’s the single, solitary human being that’s finished. It’s every single one of you out there that’s finished. Because this is no longer a nation of independent individuals. It’s a nation of some -odd million transistorised, deodorised, whiter-than-white, steel-belted bodies, totally unnecessary as human beings and as replaceable as piston rods. Well, the time has come to say is dehumanisation such a bad word? Whether it’s good or bad, that’s what is so. The whole worid is becoming humanoid - creatures that look human but aren"t. The whole world. We’re the most advanced country so we’ll get there first. The whole world’s people are becoming mass-produced, programmed, numbered and…

Narrator: It was a perfectly admissible argument that Howard Beale advanced in the days that followed. It was, however, also a very depressing one. Nobody particularly cared to hear his life was utterly valueless. By the end of the first week in June, “The Howard Beale Show” had dropped one point in the rating and its trend of shares dipped under 48 for the first time since last November.

Max: I feel lousy about the pain that I’ve caused my wife and kids. I feel guilty and conscience-stricken, and all of those things you think sentimental, but which my generation calls simple human decency. And I miss my home, because I’m beginning to get scared shitless, because all of a sudden it’s closer to the end than the beginning, and death is suddenly a perceptible thing to me, with definable features.

Narrator: By July “The Howard Beale Show” was down 11 points. Hysteria swept through the network.
Laureen: He’s plague, he’s smallpox, he’s typhoid. I don’t want to follow his goddamn show. I want out of that 8 o’clock spot. I’ve got enough troubles without Howard Beale as a lead-in. You guys scheduled me up against “Tony Orlando and Dawn,” NBC’s got “Little House on the Prairie,” ABC’s got “The Bionic Woman”. You’ve gotta do something. You’ve gotta do something about Howard Beale. Get him off the air. Get him off. Do something. DO ANYTHING.

Diana: Let’s stop kidding ourselves. Full-fledged messiahs don’t come in bunches.

Max: You need me. You need me badly. Because I’m your last contact with human reality. I love you. And that painful, decaying love is the only thing between you and the shrieking nothingness you live the rest of the day.
Diana: [hesitatingly] Then, don’t leave me.
Max: It’s too late, Diana. There’s nothing left in you that I can live with. You’re one of Howard’s humanoids. If I stay with you, I’ll be destroyed. Like Howard Beale was destroyed. Like Laureen Hobbs was destroyed. Like everything you and the institution of television touch is destroyed. You’re television incarnate, Diana: Indifferent to suffering; insensitive to joy. All of life is reduced to the common rubble of banality. War, murder, death are all the same to you as bottles of beer. And the daily business of life is a corrupt comedy. You even shatter the sensations of time and space into split seconds and instant replays. You’re madness, Diana. Virulent madness. And everything you touch dies with you. But not me. Not as long as I can feel pleasure, and pain… and love.
[Kisses her]
Max: And it’s a happy ending: Wayward husband comes to his senses, returns to his wife, with whom he has established a long and sustaining love. Heartless young woman left alone in her arctic desolation. Music up with a swell; final commercial. And here are a few scenes from next week’s show.
[Picks up his suitcases and leaves]

Frank: Mr Jensen wants Howard Beale on the air, and he wants him kept on. I would describe his position on this as inflexible.
Suit: Where does that put us, Diana?
Diana: That puts us in the shithouse, that’s where that puts us. Do you want me to go through this?
Frank: : Yes.
Diana: The Beale show Q score is down to. Most of this loss occurred in the child and teen and categories, which were our key core markets. It’s the AR department’s judgement, and mine, that if we get rid of Beale we should maintain a respectable share in the high 20s, possibly with a comparable Q level. The other segments of the show - Sybil, Jim Webbing, the Vox Populi - have all developed their own audiences. Our AR report showed that it is Howard Beale that is the destructive force here. Minimally, we’re talking about a ten-point differential in shares. I think Joe ought to spell it out for us. Joe?
Jow: A 28 share is $80,000 minutes. I think we can sell complete positions on the whole. We’re getting into the pre-Christmas gift sellers. The agencies are coming back to me with $4 CPMs. If that’s any indication, we’re talking $40 to 45 million loss in annual revenues.
Suit: And you would describe Mr Jensen’s position on Beale as inflexible?
Frank: Intractable and adamantine.
Nelson: So what do we do about this Beale son of a bitch?
Frank: I suppose we’ll have to kill him.

Diana: I think I can get the Mao Tse-tung people to kill Beale for us as one of their shows. In fact, it’ll make a hell of a kick-off show for the season. We’re facing heavy opposition on the other networks and “The Mao Tse-tung Hour” could use a sensational opener. It could be done right on camera, in the studio. We ought to get a fantastic look-in audience with the assassination of Howard Beale as our opening show.
Nelson: Well, if Beale dies, what would our continuing obligation to the Beale Corporation be?
Suit: I know our contract with Beale contains a buyout clause triggered by his death or incapacity.
Frank: There must be a formula for computation of the purchase price.
Suit: Offhand, I think it was based on a multiple of 1975 earnings with the base period in 1975. I think it was 50% of salary plus 25% of the first year’s profit multiplied by the unexpired portion of the contract. I don’t think the show has any substantial syndication value, would you say Diana?
Diana: Syndication profits are minimal.
Nelson: We’re talking about a capital crime here. The network can’t be implicated.
Suit: I hope you don’t have any hidden tape machines in this office, Frank.
Frank: Well, the issue is shall we kill Howard Beale or not? I’d like to hear some more opinions on that.
Diana: I don’t see we have any option. Let’s kill the son of a bitch.

Narrator: This was the story of Howard Beale: The first known instance of a man who was killed because he had lousy ratings.[/b]

When things go bad – really bad – you have to fall back on something.

Dennis Lim, from the DVD booklet:

Shin-ae buys into easy doctrines while suffering the temporary insanity that is grief [her son was abducted and killed], but the Christian community and its comforts are also a help in her darkest moments. Put simply, Secret Sunshine shows how religion uses us and how we use religion. A film about the lies we tell ourselves in order to live, it suggests that there is no bigger lie than religion—but also acknowledges that sometimes lies are necessary.

Also:

As she sits across from the man who killed her son, the film delivers its bitterest irony and sickest joke. The expression on the man mirrors her own: the fixed blank smile of the born-again. The murderer of her son has found religion too and he is positively glowing with it. The scene exposes the faulty, brittle logic of the forgiveness and redemption doctrine…and the shifting landscape of her face registers incredulity, betrayal and resentment. Her absolution is moot. God has beaten her to it…

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=m5Ziy_QuSK8

SECRET SUNSHINE [Milyang] 2007
Written and directed by Chang-dong Lee

[b]Pharmacist: I sell medicine here, but it won’t cure your real pain. Only God’s love can do that. I’m not pushing you to join our faith. But a revival service will be held at a new church downtown. A prayer meeting for the wounded soul. Just what you need.
Shin-ae: Let’s say…let’s say God does exist and his love is great.
Parmacist: God does exist. And His love is boundless, limitless.
Shin-ae: Then how could he let Jun die so cruelly? He was an innocent child.
Pharmacist: Mrs. Lee, you must understand that God’s will is everywhere, in everything. How can I explain this, God’s will is present even in that beam of sunlight. Everything happens by God’s will.
Shin-ae: What do you think is here? It’s just sunlight. Nothing else.

Shin-Ae: I never understood the meaning of “born again.” But now I really do. When I first met Deaconess Kim she said there is more in the world than we can see. There are also things we cannot see. When I heard those words, I didn’t take them seriously. But now I know in my heart they are true. I’ve been feeling an agonizing pressure in my heart. Now it’s gone. I have gained peace. I now truly believe that whatever happens comes to pass by God’s will.[/b]

Here, there and everywhere, the same banality about God. But why not? What? Else? Is? There?
Disintegration, perhaps? Madness?

Shin-ae: On the way here, I made a decision. I’m going to visit the prison this weekend.
Prayer group member: The prison? Why?
Shin-ae: Someone I know is inside. The man who killed my son.
Prayer group member: Why do you want to see him?
Shin-ae: To forgive him. He gave me so much pain. But God tells us to love and forgive our enemies.

This is complete bullshit to me. But she has something and I have nothing. That’s a fact. But then she has nothing again.

Shin-ae [in prison facing the man who murdered her son]: The reason I’ve come here is to spread God’s grace and love. I never knew such things. I couldn’t believe in God. I couldn’t see Him so I didn’t believe. But through my Jun I learned of God’s love. I found peace and a new life.

So has the murderer. Watch her face. This is superb acting. You’d swear she wasn’t acting at all.

[b]Shin-ae [at prayer group]: If he’s been absolved, how can I forgive him again? How dare God absolve him before I’ve forgiven him myself? I am in so much pain and yet he says he is absloved, and has gained peace. How could God do that to me? Why? WHY?!! Please leave, all of you.

Shin-ae [looking up to the Heavens]: Are You looking? Do You see?[/b]

Coming of age with a stutter. Not only that but one attached at the hip to the horrors of a hopelessly introverted personality. It’s painful to watch at times. Especially on the debating team.

Is this a love story? It is if you hate love sories.

Hal surmises that understanding life and love shouldn’t be like “rocket science”. But rocket science is like a game of tic tac toe in comparison. After all, rocket science is far more about either/or than neither/nor.

Unless, of course, you’re an objectivist.

And welcome to the world of debating. It’s a world in which it is assumed that both sides are right if you have the better argument. Which either side can, of course, have.

wiki

Blitz believed that Hal’s stuttering was a metaphor for his lack of mastery of life and love: “He can’t control this thing that ought to be so simple … And so much of his life is like that.” Journalist Mark Baumer highlighted the juxtaposition of Hal with the fast-talking debaters, who are at opposite ends of the spectrum with their speech but are both struggling with communication and expression. Blitz said that “Even when [the children] can speak incredibly fast and are packing their sentences with tons of SAT words, they still don’t know exactly what they’re talking about. There is still a question about whether their content of what they’re talking about matches up with what they’re feeling or trying to express. Whether it’s the kid who’s talking a million miles an hour, but saying nothing or the kid who isn’t able to get out any word at all they’re both at the mercy of not knowing how to express what’s inside them.”

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=8u7aUbRyMX0

ROCKET SCIENCE
Written and directed by Jeffrey Blitz

[b]Narrator: And so it goes. The high school debate, like the war that rips through your city and ravages everything in its path; Kids wielding words like weapons and brandishing ideas like axes. Nothing else mattered in that final round. There was no world beyond it.

Narrator: That year’s National Debate topic was farming subsidies. And if you don’t know how farming subsidies could inspire all this commotion then you don’t know life and there’s nothing to be said about it. Suitcases end marriages and farming subsidies launch cataclysms.

Ginny: Coach Lumbly, with the pilgrim hat, she teaches Patterns of Adult Living. On her third husband, name of Wallace Lumbly, Wallace the third. That’s a particular pattern she doesn’t lecture us on in class. Well, she came up to me after a presentation on egalitarianism and said that although my argumentative skills were at the fetal stage she sensed, somehow she intuited, my potential and invited me onto the team and, so, two years later, here I am doing the same with you. Recruiting. Ferreting out the debating talent from the masses. That’s you. I’ve ferreted you.

Ginny: …deformed people are the best debaters. Maybe it’s because they have a deep resource of anger. It serves them well.

Ginny: Have you ever felt like you can burn the world down?
Hal: Every day.

Ginny: Write down these template arguments against abstinence: One, supporting it violates the barrier between church and state; Two, it’s an enforcement of a dated, sexist agenda; Three, sexual freedom is the basis of human freedom; Four, it separates us from Western cultures, Europe in particular, when we should be drawing closer to our international allies; Five, psychologists say that repressed sexual functions can create adult neuroses; Six, abstinence programs actually increase risky sexual behavior among teens; Seven, it creates barriers between free- love-generation parents and their more conservative children; Eight, and finally, we oppose abstinence because the world might end and then basically everyone we know dies a virgin.[/b]

Then the other side does the same thing for sexual abstinence. Then the objectivists weigh in on the most RATIONAL argument.

[b]Student in library: Descartes. Man, oh man. [looking over at Hal] Hey, would you be interested in joining my club? The Junior Philosophers.
Hal: Oh, uh, well, I uh…l…my plate is kind of full.
Student in library: I know what you’re thinking. We read everything, but no Hegel, if that’s your concern.

Ginny [to Hal]: Do you know what I sounded like the first speech I gave when I was your age? Ben told me I sounded like a Bob Dole impersonator.

Hal [to Ginny’s mom at the door]: You, could…will you just tell her that…that I’m done and over with the masturbation defense? Tell her that, will you? Just assure her that I’m…that I’m…that I’m…that I’m done with masturbation and I’m ready to show her.
Ginny’s mom [closing the door]: You take care now.

Hal: I spent the last seven minutes of my round-one speech trying…trying to say the resolution.
Speech teacher: Oh, man.
Hal: Yeah.
Speech teacher: Well, there’s that video I gave you, “Singing Instead of Talking.”
Hal: Yeah, did, uh…did rat poison and a straw come with that video?

Lunch Lady: We’re out of pizza. Sloppy Joes are all that’s left They’re not really bad though if you’ve never had really good ones before.

Debate coach: Do you know Mento Buin, who doesn’t speak more than six words of English? Or Evie Spedarsky, who has such pronounced Irritable Bowel Syndrome that she’s being studied by a team at Princeton?
Hal: No.
Debate coach: What about Elvis Hunsinger, the boy who pees himself in gym class?
Hal: Well, everybody knows…Elvis.
Debate coach: Ginny tried to recruit them all. Never crossed my mind that this could be some scheme of hers, but, when you think about it looks pretty pat.

Hal [seeing the Ryersons approach]: There’s a cello in your house now.

Girl: So how far did you get with her?
Hal: Does…does it count as second base when it’s groping through the shirt?
Girl: Maybe in public school.

Ben: Man, it’s a blessing to be squarely and dearly out of the goddamn suburbs. Suck the marrow right from you, the suburbs will. And it takes years in the big city to inject the life back into you…literal years.

Ben: It’s all so pointless. That’s the realization I came to at States last year. Life is nothing but repetition, the same thing over and over. Somebody might give you a trophy and that’s supposed to mean you’re making progress but there’s no such thing. The fights you fight today are the fights you fight untill you die.

Hal: It’s…well, it’s love. Well, if it’s not that, then…then it’s the need for…for revenge when…when love goes bad. It’s one of those two, love or revenge, I’m not really sure which one. But it’s one of those two that made me throw a cello through somebody’s window.

Ben: Throw me the cello!

Narrator: Eventually all of this would pass, and the memory of it would give way to embellishment and fantasy and…outright distortion. Until it was hard for Hal Hefner to remember what he was really like back then, when he still carried in his head the sound a of a made-up perfect voice. A voice that could speak its heart. A voice he used wish he had, until the day he stopped wishing he sounded like anyone else and just started talking as he was.

Hal: You know, love shouldn’t be…shouldn’t…it really shouldn’t be like rocket, uh…shouldn’t be rocket, um…Sometimes, I don’t know, I guess I just wonder when it all starts to make sense, you know?
Dad: All what?
Hal: All this. You know, everything.
Dad: Oh. Well, I guess there comes a point, you see, when you reach a certain age and you’re in Jersey, or someplace just like it, and you stop trying to figure it all out.[/b]

Are there really prisons like this? Apparently there are in Argentina. Prisons in which the children are incarceratecd along with their mothers. In American prisons the policies vary from state to state: nwlc.org/resource/mothers-be … re-failing

And, as with all other such value judgments, there will be good arguments for allowing it and good arguments against allowing. It is always contextual…and revolving around each particular woman. The world of conflicting goods. The world the objectivists pretend does not exist.

But my own gut reaction is: No. But what can I possibly know about it? And it’s not like the kids know any other life. They have nothing to compare it with. Unless gthey have access to televisions. I didn’t see any. Though some do leave the prison for periods of time to be with relatives. And then, at four, they are required to leave the prison and live with the relatives permanently.

And they do have access to the necessities of life. I’m sure there are many children in the most impoverished of circumstances [outside the prison] that do not. It’s sad that some of these kids are probably better off in the prison with their mothers.

This movie was filmed in actual prisons…and many of the characters are actual prisoners.

As for the ending, you either will or will not see it coming. I missed it by a mile.

There isn’t even a wiki article for this film. That’s a first.

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=BVxj1-a5jbQ

LION’S DEN [Leonera]
Directed by Pablo Trapero

[b]Julia: Why are you here?
Marta: 'Cause I’m poor. And a fucking fool. That’s all. You’re rich aren’t you? If you’ve got money everything will be easier for us.

Prisoner: Make your baby shut up, you bitch!
Prisoner: Feed him!
Prisoner: Shut him up!
Prisoner: Make that brat shut the fuck up!

Prison guard: Lift up your shirt. Spread your arms. Pull your shirt down. Open your mouth. Pull down your pants. Crouch. Pull open your panties. Get up…Now the kid.
Julia: Don’t touch him.
Prison guard: Then you can’t come in. Pull up his shirt. Pull down his pants.
Julia: Don’t touch him.
Prison guard: I have to examine him. Pull down his diapers.[/b]

Then inevitably the day comes: They take the kid away.

Prisoner: Don’t take her away from me! Lucia is all I’ve got! Don’t take her away from me! She’s my baby! Don’t take her!

She’s screaming all this after she slit her wrist.

[b]Julia: Whare’s Tomas?
Mother: At home.
Lawyer: It’s better this way. For your file. Just for a few days he is with your mom.
Julia: Bring Tomas to me.
Mother: At the start, it was good for him to be with you, but he’s got to get out.
Julia: Mother, bring me Tomas. I beg you. Go get him.
Mother: He shouldn’t be here.
Julia: You have no right to decide. Go get Tomas!
Mother: He’s your son, but he’s not yours.
Julia: He’s mine, my son!
Mother: Deep inside you know I’m right. He can’t be locked up. I decide. You understand?
Julia: Fucking bitch! I’ll kill you! Bring him or I’ll kill you!

Julia [to warden]: You have a family. My son is all I have![/b]

The irony is that in rioting to get Tomas back to his mother the prisoners show just how dangerous it can be for kids in prison.

If it were not for my ever expanding cynicism films like this would be almost unbearable to watch. But once you recognize the utter futility of going in any direction far removed from the Bilderberg world we live in, you abandon the road to revolution once and for all.

Instead, you root for the occasional outbreaks of resistance: Days of Rage…OWS…antiausterity protests.

In other words, thank god there are still folks not like me out there. Still, from my vantage point [the only one I’ve got] it just makes sense to be cynical.

And, come on, really: Are their days of plenty numbered? And this is more a snapshot of the folly [and the futility] of personal idealism.

Oh, and the part about one comrade stealing the other comrade’s lover.

wiki

[b]The original German title, Die fetten Jahre sind vorbei translates literally as “the fat years are over”.

A. O. Scott of The New York Times called it a “A slyly effective thriller and of a deft comedy of romantic confusion. Whatever its shortcomings as a consideration of globalization and its discontents, The Edukators succeeds brilliantly in telling the story of a man who falls in love with his best buddy’s girlfriend and doesn’t know what to do about it.”[/b]

See what we are up against? But then what does A. O. Scott’s employer know about “globalization”? Aside from embracing the “liberal” rendition of it?

Like this one:

Jonathan Romney of The Independent also favoured the film: “Hans Weingartner’s digitally-shot The Edukators wonders whether the old political idealism can be revived, but its gentle, trendily pallid vision of youthful ferment is strictly non-threatening - the Revolution with a Jamie Cullum haircut.”

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=UyT8bEa4XYA

Look for Sophie Scholl.

Oh, and the ending is sublime. Not to worry. I won’t spoil it for you.

THE EDUKATORS [Die Fetten Jahre Sind Vorbei] 2004
Written and directed by Hans Weingartner

Rich woman: We ordered Williams pear brandy.
Jule: That’s pear brandy.
Rich woman: But never in these glasses! These are liqueur glasses.
Jule: So?
Rich woman: Can’t beverages be served in their proper glasses?! I simply cannot drink from this glass.

And from things like this, no doubt, the expression, “KILL THE RICH!” was born.

[b]Jule: 94,500
Jan: Euros?
Jule: Yes.
Jan: What did you do, burn down a factory?
Jule: If only. A year ago on the highway I was in my old Golf. Ahead of me, was this executive driving his Mercedes S-Class. He brakes. I don’t. His car is totaled. My registration had expired. I hadn’t paid my insurance. That fucking Mercedes cost 100,000 euros. But now I’m down to 94,500.
Jan: You work your butt off so that big shot can drive a Mercedes? For executives like him, that car is petty cash.
Jule: But it was my fault. He was in the right.
Jan: In the right? Is that justice?

Jan: Who says you were wrong? The cops? The prosecutors, the news rags? Fucking petty bourgeois ethics! Decency, honesty, family values…all hammered into us. First in school, then on TV. For what? So guys like that can buy expensive cars! To hell with those morals! Ruining a young woman’s life is immoral.

Jan: The first step is recognizing injustice. The second step: action.

Jule: I calculated how much of my life I am giving to that guy. Just for fun. About 8 years.

Jule: You know what? Fuck the deposit!

Written on Wall: Every heart is a revolutionary cell.

Jan: You go to all those protests against exploitation and oppression but you’re still some rich bastard’s slave.

Jan: What was considered subversive back then you can now buy in shops. Che Guevara T-shirts or anarchy stickers.
Jule: That’s why there aren’t any more youth movements. Everyone has the feeling it’s all been done before. Others tried and failed. Why should it work for us?
Jan: For all revolutions, one thing is clear…even if some didn’t work, the most important thing is that the best ideas survived. The same goes for personal revolts. What turns out good, what survives in you that makes you stronger.

Jule [on the roof of a building looking down]: What do you think? How many people down there are thinking about a revolution?
Jan: In this moment, not many. At this hour they are watching television. Europeans spend 4 hours a day in front of the boob tube. Four hours!

Jule: The problem is I can’t find anything I really want to believe in.

Jan: You never wondered why Peter and I stay out all night?
Jule: To put up posters.[/b]

Nope.

Jan: Don’t you feel guilty? Ruining a girl’s life for a car worth petty cash to you? Why?
Hardenberg: All right. I should have paid more attention to who was involved. I was stressed out. I’m sorry.
Jule: You amass things. Big expensive things. So why do you always want more?
Hardenberg: We live in a democracy. I don’t have to justify why I own certain things. I paid for them.
Jan: Wrong! We live in a capitalist dictatorship. You stole everything you possess.
Hardenberg: I can afford more because I work more. I had the right ideas at the right time. Besides, I’m not the only one. Everyone gets the same chances.

So, who wins this argument? But please: Everyone gets the same chances?

Jule: In Southeast Asia, many people work 13, 14 hours a day. But they don’t have villas. They earn 30 euros a month. They might have good ideas too. But they can’t even pay for a bus ticket to the next town.
Hardenberg: Sorry, I wasn’t born in Southeast Asia.
Jule: But you can still help make life bearable there. The First World could cancel the Third World’s debts. That’s only 0.01% of our GNP!
Hardenberg: That would collapse the world’s financial system.
Jule: You want them poor. That way you can control them. Make them sell their raw goods at dirt cheap prices.

And around and around it goes: reasonable arguments predicated entirely on a different set of assumptions.

[b]Hardenberg: I admit that some of what you say is true, but I’m the wrong person to be blamed for. Yes, I’ve been playing the game but I didn’t make up the rules.
Peter: It’s not who invented the gun, man. It’s who pulls the trigger.

Peter: You two got something going? [awkward silence] Kiss my ass. This is your shit, I’m out of here.
Jule: Peter, Im sorry.
Peter: Sorry for what.
Jule: It just happened. I fell in love.
Peter: Good then I can go.[/b]

And it was their shit. The irony being that he risked his future too to help them. They fucked him. Just like the reactionaries do.

Jule: We screwed up. Kidkapping Hardenberg was wrong. We did it to save our own asses, not the world.

Maybe. But that doesn’t stop the way the world is.

Writing on Wall: “Some People Never Change.”

Of Lillian Hellman, Mary McCarthy once famously said, "every word she writes is a lie, including “and” and “the”.

How does that fit in here? I don’t know. I know very little of this literary rift. But even if it is applicable to Julia it matters little. It could have been. And almost certainly came close to being true for…how many?

wiki

In 1983, New York psychiatrist Muriel Gardiner claimed that she was the basis for the title character in Julia and that she had never known Hellman. Hellman denied that the character was based on Gardiner. Because the events Hellman described matched Gardiner’s account of her life and Gardiner’s family was closely tied to Hellman’s attorney, some believe that Hellman appropriated Gardiner’s story without attribution.

Here is more for anyone interested:
nytimes.com/1983/04/29/books … versy.html

Anyway, as though establishing the truth about this is anywhere near as important as embracing all those who resisted the fascists and the nazis. Here we are all left to wonder: What would I have had the courage to do?

There are two stories unfolding: the one over here and the one over there. And we live in a world that tears some to pieces trying to strike the right balance between the personal and the political. Knowing we can never really know where that balance should be. Here the film seems way out of whack given the context: fuck here given there.

One chooses to be political [sensitive to injustice in the world], one chooses not to be. Let’s track down the reasons why. Especially in distinguishbing those who march towards it and those who simply stumble into it.

A footnote: One of the highlights of being a failed writer [unlike the folks here] is the moment you realize that you are. It’s an enormous weight lifted and then flung out into the void.

wiki

Although Lillian Hellman claimed the story was based on true events that occurred early in her life, the filmmakers later learned that most of it was fictionalized. Director Fred Zinnemann would later comment, “Lillian Hellman in her own mind owned half the Spanish Civil War, while Hemingway owned the other half. She would portray herself in situations that were not true. An extremely talented, brilliant writer, but she was a phony character, I’m sorry to say. My relations with her were very guarded and ended in pure hatred.”

IMDb

During the casting process, both Jane Fonda and Vanessa Redgrave’s names were mentioned as possible stars for the film. The producers initially vetoed both actresses on the advice of the publicity department, fearing that the absolute worst option would be to cast Fonda and Redgrave, both of whom were known for their outspoken political beliefs, in a film together. In the end, of course, both actresses were cast and the film went on to great critical and box office success.

Julia was Meryl Streep’s film debut.

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=U_u7Hvj14s0

Julia [1977]
Directed by Fred Zinnemann

[b]Lillian: I’m not scrappy. Don’t call me scrappy. You make me sound like the neighborhood bulldog.
Dashiell: You are the neighborhood bulldog, Lilly! 'Cept you got some cockeyed dream about being a cocker spaniel.

Lillian: I can’t work here.
Dashiell: Then don’t work here. It’s not as if you’ve written anything before, you know. Nobody’ll miss you. It’s a perfect time to change jobs.

Dottie: Way down deep he’s very superficial.

Julia: They took me to see Cairo. They told me how beautiful Cairo would be, bit it wasn’t. I said to my grandfather, “Look at these people. They’re hungry. They’re sick. Why don’t we do something?” And he said, “Don’t look at them.” I said, “But they’re sick.” He said, “I didn’t make them sick.”

Julia: Where my mother lives now the servants live under the ground. 18 people in three rooms, no windows, one bathroom. It’s wrong. It’s wrong, Lily.

Lillian: There are women who reach a perfect time of life, when the face will never be as good, the body as graceful or powerful. It had happened that year to Julia.

Lillian: What are you reading now?
Julia: Darwin, Engels, Hegel, Einstein.
Lillian: You understand Einstein?
Julia: Sure.

Dashiell [after reading Lillian’s play]: You wanted to be a serious writer. That’s what I liked. That’s what we worked for. I don’t know what happened but you better tear this up. It’s not that it’s bad, it’s just not good enough. Not for you.

Dashiell: It’s the best play anyone has written in a long time.
Lillian: Are you sure.
Dashiell: I’m positive.
Lillian: But are you sure?

Lillian: I like being famous. You know what happens when I go shopping for groceries now? I’m famous. I buy mayonnaise and I’m famous. I have letters from people in Idaho.

Dashiell: It’s only fame, Lily. It’s just a paint job. If you want a sable coat, buy one. Just remember, it doesn’t have anything to do with writing.

Julia [in a letter to Lillian]: This is my friend, Johann. He will tell you what I need, but I tell you don’t push yourself. If you can’t, you can’t. No dishonor.

Johann: Julia said I must remind you for her that you are afraid of being afraid and so you will do what sometimes you cannot do. That could be dangerous to you—and to us. So please, try not to be heroic.
Lillian: I assure you, I would never try to be heroic.

Johann: But please, madame, if you cannot do it, do not do it.
Lillian: Please stop saying that.

Julia: Are you as angry now as you used to be?
Lillian: Mm-hmm. Yes. I try not to be, but there you are.
Julia: I like your anger.
Lillian: You’re the only one who does then.
Julia: Don’t you let anybody talk you out of it.[/b]

Poetry, rape, suicide, compensation, justice. Admittedly, I’m in over my head here. This is a complex film that will be understood in different ways by different people.

Here is one particular reaction:
movie-place.blogspot.com/2011/02 … eview.html

From the writer and director of Secret Sunshine above. Only [for many] even better. This is one of those few and far between films at Rotten Tomatoes that got a 100% rating on more than 50 reviews. 59 in fact.

When people start to talk about poetry [especially in noting what constitutes “good” poetry] I tend to zone out. I don’t doubt they know [or think they know] what they are talking about…it just never, ever sinks in. Same with stuff like art and music and beauty.

Create something and I will react to it. But don’t talk about the creation as the critic. That still sounds mostly like bullshit to me. On the other hand, I surely don’t mind folks trying to explain their own reactions.

And this is really more poetry for beginners, I suppose.

Note: Whenever you watch a film from another country you always have to take into account any possible gaps in the cutures. Recognizing that only the objectivists are clever enough to close them.

wiki

The idea for the film had its origin in a true case where a small town schoolgirl had been raped by a gang of teenage boys. When Lee Chang-dong heard about the incident it made an impact on him, although he was never interested in basing a film on the actual events. Later, during a visit in Japan, Lee saw a television program in his hotel room. The program edited entirely from relaxing shots of nature, “a peaceful river, birds flying, fishermen on the sea – with soft new age music in the background”, and a vision for a possible feature film started to form: “suddenly, it reminded me of that horrible incident, and the word ‘poetry’ and the image of a 60-year old woman came up in my mind.”

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=fo2dfY317-k

POETRY [Shi] 2010
Written and directed by Chang-dong Lee

[b]Mija: I do have a poet’s vein. I like flowers and say odd things.

Poetry Teacher: To write poetry you must see well. The most inportant thing in life is seeing.

Poetry Teacher: How many times have you seen an apple? A thousand? Ten thousand? A million? Wrong! You’ve never seen an apple before. Not even once. Up till now, you haven’t seen an apple for real. To really know what an apple is… to be interested in it, to understand it, to converse with it is really seeing it, Gazing at it for a while and observing its shadow… feeling its every curve, turning it around, taking a bite out of it, imagining the sunlight absorbed in it… That is really seeing it. If you really see something.

Poetry Teacher: You should prepare paper and a pencil, and wait for the moment to come. Empty white paper…A world of pure potential, a world before creation…This is the perfect moment for a poet. Hold your pencil over that pure paper…

Mija: Apples are better for eating than looking at.

Man [at meeting of parents]: Recently, a girl at our boy’s school killed herself. Her name was Park Heejin. She kept a diary stating that six male students were raping her for months until her death.[/b]

You can see the two narratives here are about to meet [or collide] somewhere in the middle.

[b]Parent # 1: In order to console the victum’s family…
Parent #2: So the point is, the compensation money.
Parent #1: That’s right.
Parent #2: Regarding the money, we should reach an argreement. I discussed this with the school and 30 million won would be the proper amount.

Woman Reading Poem: To write poetry is to remember mother’s hands, joint swollen, washing the white rice at cold dawn during winter solstice. To write poetry is to wake alone deep in the night weeping. It is to build a solid cornerstone, to raise a pillar in your broken heart. It is to calm the bare corner of the window, shaking all night, with all your might. It is to empty out without hesitation the rancid water that keeps rising. It is to create a forest of empty void.

Mija: We’re here to love poetry (referring to Mr. Park). To love poetry is to seek beauty, right? But he’s always talking dirty like that. It’s like he’s insulting poetry.

Kim Yongtak: Anyway, in an era when poetry is dying away, I am so thankful and happy that there are people like you…who love poetry.
Woman: Why do you say that poetry is dying away?
Kim Yongtak: But it is, unfortunately. The day will come when people no longer read or write poetry anymore
Hwang Myungseung [himself a poet]: Poetry deserves to die![/b]

A stranger in town. The new marshall. Mysterious, of course. With a past. Which will soon be nothing compared to the present.

One of those narratives that can go completely over the head of folks who never grew up or lived in small towns. Like I did. Man, you are either in or you are out. The right way? The wrong way? There’s only their way.

But sooner or later things have a tendency toward change.

You’ve never seen a movie like this before. No matter how many times you have.

Mojn.

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This film has been compared, in concept, to two films by the Coen brothers: Blood Simple (1985) and No Country for Old Men (2007).

Look for the dueling drunkards.

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=qsslA308XV8

TERRIBLY HAPPY [Frygtelig Lykkelig] 2008
Written and directed by Henrik Ruben Genz

[b]Police chief: Mojn. That’s what we say here. It means both hello and good-bye.

Doctor: I actually came here to give you the cat. It belonged to the old marshall and I’ve been looking after it until you came. Otherwise its going into the bog.

Robert: He just up and left his shop?
Ingelise: No, he disappeared.
Robert: Disappeared?
Ingelise: The way people disappear here. I’d better not say anymore. Mojn.

Jorgen: You don’t understand our ways even though Moos tried to teach you. Right, Knud.
[slaps Knud – a child – hard across the face twice]
Robert: What the hell are you doing?
Jorgen: Giving you a hand.
Robert: Don’t ever do that again.

Ingelise: You don’t get jack shit. This is all there is. Cows, mud and rubber boots.

Ingelise: Some people say there is something wrong with you. You got posted here as a punishment.
Robert: Don’t go there.

Robert: I haven’t seen my daughter in months.
Ingelise: Why not?
Robert: Funny. She thinks I’m in Australia.
Ingelise: Is that funny? Why are you in Australia?
Robert: It was the country furthest away.

Ingelise: Why are you here, Robert?
Robert: I did something terrible.

Doctor: Forget Ingelise. I’ve barked up that tree too.

Robert: Is it true Jorgen isn’t Dorthe’s father?
Doctor: Whoa, where’d you hear that from?
Robert: I’m the police.
Doctor: Well, he’s fathered at least seven of the runts running around town.
Robert: Seven?
Doctor: I’m the doctor.

Townsman: You’re meddling in matters you don’t understand.

Robert [in bar]: Who says Jorgen killed Ingelise? And at the end of the day, who really killed Ingelise? When Dorthe took the baby carriage for a stroll, her mother was being beaten. You all knew that. What did you do?..You swilled your beer and let them carry on. That’s the way it worked around here. Everyone knows everything, but no one does anything. And now that little girl’s mother is dead.

Dorthe [to Robert]: I saw you.

Jorgen [holding up a button]: You were there. You’ve got two options. Either you call Tonder Police or you and I take a trip to the bog and get it over with.
Robert [aiming his gun at him]: You forgot one.

Doctor: Come on Robert, we know everything.

Politimeister: You’re our man now.

Dorthe: Mojn
Robert: Mojn[/b]

He’s their man.

I like movies that take me into a world I know little about. How successful is this one? I don’t know. But surely I know more about it now than I did before.

Vincent. It’s not so much being like him that draws some in but in not being themselves. They see his life, they see their own. Some choice.

What this is mostly about is the male ego. In particular one willing to take a dive. There are men who just can’t bring themselves to do it. Even when lots and lots of money is dangled in front of them. Why? Because the winning is private and the losing is public.

And then the irony here is that when he finally does do it, it crushes the ego of the other guy!

And all this over shooting stupid little balls on a table into stupid little holes.

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Many top American pool players of the 1980s had speaking roles, including Steve Mizerak, Grady Mathews, and Keith McCready, and there were many cameo appearances, including Jimmy Mataya, Howard Vickery, Mark Jarvis and Louie Roberts. Mike Sigel was technical director, and he and Ewa Mataya Laurance served as technical consultants and shot-performers on the film. A young Forest Whitaker makes an extended appearance as a pool hustler as well.

Look for Iggy Pop.

Both Siskel and Ebert gave the film a thumbs down. But the RT rating was 92% on 37 reviews.

THE COLOR OF MONEY
Directed by Martin Scorsese

[b]Opening Voiceover: Nine-ball is rotation pool, the balls are pocketed in numbered order. The only ball that means anything, that wins it, is the 9. Now, the player can shoot eight trick shots in a row, blow the 9, and lose. On the other hand, the player can get the 9 in on the break, if the balls spread right, and win. Which is to say, that luck plays a part in nine-ball. But for some players, luck itself is an art.

Vincent: Come on, one more game.
Julian: I’m bust.
Vincent: So let’s just play play.
Julian: What?
Vincent: Play for play. No money.
Julian: Play play?
Vincent: Show me what you got. Julian, I just want your best game. I think the money’s throwing you off today. How about I win, no money. You win, I’ll throw you 20. No?

Carmen: You want to play him?
Eddie: Me? Sure.
Carmen: 20 a rack.
Eddie: No. 500 a rack.
Carmen: Oh, you serious?
Eddie: I never kid about money.

Eddie: You don’t know what you’re doing, do you?
Carmen: What do you mean?
Eddie: Well, you just blew 500 bucks. That kid, he has both arms in traction he beats anybody in the room.
Carmen: Yeah, he could.
Edie: So I’ll offer it to you again. I’ll play him for 500 bucks. You still don’t know what to say, do you? Maybe I’m hustling you, maybe I’m not. You don’t know, but you should know. If you know that, you know when to say no.
Carmen: What should I say?
Eddie: You should say no. Why? Because it’s too much money and I’m an unknown. He should be the unknown. That would be nice. That would be beautiful.

Eddie: You’re some piece of work…You’re also a natural character.
Vincent: [to Carmen] You see? I been tellin’ her that. I got natural character.
Eddie: That’s not what I said, kid. I said you are a natural character; you’re an incredible flake.
[Vincent’s smile fades; Eddie continues]
Eddie: But that’s a gift. Some guys spend half their lives trying to invent something like that. You walk into a pool room with that go-go-go, the guys’ll be killing each other, trying to get to you. You got that…But I’ll tell you something, kiddo. You couldn’t find Big Time if you had a road map.

Eddie: He’s got the flake down cold…but can he flake on and flake off? I don’t know whether that can be taught. He’s got to learn how to be himself, but on purpose.

Eddie: You’re hooked on Carmen, aren’t you?
Vincent: Yeah.
Eddie: Crazy about her?
Vincent: You’re getting a little personal here. What?
Eddie: You’re losing her, kiddo.
Vincent: What do you mean?
Eddie: She don’t get the allure of this place.

Vincent: Good thing I didn’t bring the Balabushka, huh?

Eddie: This ain’t pool. This is for bangers. Straight pool is pool. This is like hand-ball, or cribbage, or something. Straight pool, you gotta be a real surgeon to get 'em, you know? It’s all finesse. Now, every thing is nine-ball, 'cause it’s fast, good for T.V., good for a lot of break shots…Oh, well. What the hell. Checkers sells more than chess.

Eddie: How much did you take off Moselle? I heard a hundred…
Vincent: One Fifty!
Eddie: [sarcastically] A hundred and fifty?
Vincent: That’s right, a hundred and fifty.
Eddie: You walk into a shoe store with a hundred and fifty bucks, you come out with one shoe! We were working on five thousand!

Eddie: You remind me that money won is twice as sweet as money earned.

Eddie: You gotta have two things to win. You gotta have brains and you gotta have balls. Now, you got too much of one and not enough of the other.

Vincent: I’ll really try, you know? Let’s go for it. But you know, Eddie, I mean, uh…it’s just tough for me to lay down. You know, it’s just, uh…I get in there, and it’s just tough. It’s just, uh, it’s just tough to lay down…but i’ll try. Okay?

Eddie: I’ll run it by you another way. If you’d have kicked ass in any place but Chalkies Atlantic City would be dead for us. The guys never leave the street. Otherwise, it would be all around.

Grady: It’s like a nightmare, isn’t it? It just keeps getting worse and worse, doesn’t it?

Grady: Don’t choke now. It’s not that hard a shot.

Carmen: How you doing?
Vincent: Hmm? Carmen, I’m playing here now.
Carmen: I know. Vincent, you win one more game and you’re gonna be humping your fist for a long time.

Eddie: Are you a hustler, Amos?
Amos: Come on, Eddie, man. Luck.
Eddie: Are you a hustler?
Amos: Hey, you don’t want to pay me? Keep it. Forget it. I don’t want no bad feelings. When the big guy loses. I lost, I paid. I don’t…
Eddie: Are you a hustler, Amos?
Amos: What? You want to quit?
Eddie: Fuck you, kid. Double it again.

Amos [to Eddie]: Hey, I want to ask you something, an’ I want you to be real honest. Do you think I need to lose some weight?

Eddie [to himself]: How could I get suckered like that? You got to work hard. That takes a real gift to show your ass like that. Everything in a stack. Everything–just probably a little too much booze…a little too cocky… right amount of jerk…to miss all those fuckin’ signals.

Eddie [looking down at an envelope filled with cash]: What’s that?
Vincent: That’s for you. That’s your cut.
Eddie: Cut of what?
Vincent: For the game.
Eddie: What game?
Vincent: Our game. I dumped. Got a front to lay $4,000 on you. Then I dumped. I dogged about four shots. Eddie, you know, you are a very, very good player. I feel shitty about getting booted but there’s other tournaments, right?
Eddie: Right. You dumped, huh?
Vincent: Carmen didn’t want to go for it but I told her you of all people would appreciate it. There’s $8,000 there. After I beat Grady Seasons, the odds were a joke.
Carmen: Two brothers and a stranger.
Vincent: It was beautiful. It was fuckin’ beautiful. When I banked the 5. When I saw the table I knew it was going to be the 5. To be able to just miss the pocket by a hair…I mean, the audience…“oh!” It was… It was… I… $8,000 in there.

Vincent: You got brass, man. I’ll give you that. You want my best game? You couldn’t deal with my best game.

Vincent: Eddie, what will you do when I kick your ass?
Eddie: Pick myself up and let you kick me again.
Vincent: Oh, yeah?
Eddie: Yeah. Just don’t put the money in the bank, kid. If I don’t whip you now I’ll whip you next month in Houston. If not, a month after that in New Orleans.
Vincent: Yeah, what makes you so sure?
Eddie: Hey, I’m back.[/b]

The male ego! The male battle! But at least with pool [give or take the occasional dump] there is a clear winner and a clear loser.

Phil Ochs: Love me, love me, love me, I’m a liberal.

Here is a narrative bursting at the seams – oozing – with self-righteous indignation. Those fucking conservatives! Thank God the Rachel Maddows are out there exposing them!

And, sure, up to a point I’m oozing to. But I have no illusions about the gap between the liberal idealism on display here and the reality of a Bill Clinton or a Barack Obama. Or an MSNBC. At least not with respect to preserving crony capitalism at home and abroad.

But it is certainly true the conservatives here are skewered. The word “scumbag” leaps to mind.

What is particularly surreal however is the manner in which Laine the atheist is approached. Come on, can any candidate – let alone one nominated for the vice presidency – openly defend it? Let alone be one!!

And, in the end, the film jumps the shark by having it both ways. It wants to insist folks have the right to their own private sexual lives while at the same time making it clear they would never really do the nasty things the reactionaries accuse them of.

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President Barack Obama cited President Evans as his favorite fictional president in an interview during the 2008 presidential campaign.

That doesn’t surprise me.

THE CONTENDER
Written and directed by Rod Lurie

[b]Kermit: During the confirmation period, I want you out of sight.
Laine’s husband: Pardon me?
Kermit: A wife there behind her husband is perceived as supportive. A husband following around behind his wife is perceived as a puppeteer.

Runyon: I take it you have a predisposition. About the confirmation, I mean.
Webster: No. Actually, I’m 100% objective.
Runyon: Mmm. Do you have a dictionary, Mr. Webster?
Webster: Yeah.
Runyon: Take a magic marker, cross out the word “objectivity”. Your constituents want you for your opinions, your philosophy, for you subjectivity.

Laine’s husband: The senator got a little wild when she was 19. What is the big deal?
Kermit: Let me explain the big deal to you. The people of this nation can stomach quite a bit. But the one thing they can’t stomach is the image of a vice president with a mouthful of cock.

Kermit: We’ll just have to make this all not worthwhile for Mr. Runyon. What have you got on the distinguished gentleman from Illinois?
Staffer: Some pretty good stuff. - S.E.C. investigation, 1985.
Kermit: You got stocks? I want something EMBARRASSING! Something sexual! Little boys, midgets, that sort of thing! Cows!
Laine: Come on, Kermit. If we do that, we are no better than he is.
Kermit: We are no better than he is!

Runyon: Greatness is the orphan of urgency, Laine. Greatness only emerges when we need it most…in time of war or calamity. I can’t ask somebody to be a Kennedy or a Lincoln. They were MEN created by their times. What I…What I can ask for is the promise of greatness. And that, Madam Senator you don’t have.
Laine: Well, then I just wouldn’t be using sex as leverage if I were you, Sheldon. Because, you know, there’s one thing you don’t want. It’s a woman with her finger on the button who isn’t getting laid.

Runyan: Clausewitz said that war is the natural extension of politics. But politics is also the extension of war. They are one and the same.

Laine: No, not my personal life. It’s just nobody’s business.
Webster: That’s not what the people will tell you: the people will tell you it is their business…that you’re setting standards of morality for their children. Especially their girls.
Laine: Have you ever heard of Isaac Lamm?
Webster: Isaac Lamm? No.
Laine: He was the first one to come before HUAC…the House Un-American Activities Committee. He was also the first one to name names, first to cooperate with the government. The dominoes fell from there. Careers crushed, families destroyed. Just imagine, Mr. Webster, if Mr. Lamm had just said, “Fuck you,” to the committee. I magine how much harder he would’ve made it for them.

Laine: I just can’t respond to the committee’s lightly veiled accusations…because it’s not okay for them to be made.
Webster: Or maybe you can’t respond because the answers you have to give are too embarrassing.
Laine: You know what? You’re young. That’s okay. That’s okay. You’re young. I’m gonna choose to be amused by your naivete, give you the benefit of the doubt. I’m gonna spell it out for you even more clearly. If I were a man, nobody would care… how many sexual partners I had in college. And if it’s not relevant for a man, it’s not relevant for a woman.

Laine: I’m not sure that I get the point of all this.
Kermit: You said under oath that you never committed adultery. You perjured yourself.
Laine: I didn’t commit adultery.
Kermit: You were fucking Will when he was married.
Laine: Even the most loose defiinition of committing adultery would not include that.
President: God damn it, she’s right. You’re right. In order for it to be committing adultery, she’d have to be married at the time. Your husband may have been an adulterer. You’re not. Fine. What you are is a sex-crazed, home-wrecking machine. The female Warren Beatty.

Laine: [closing remarks at Congressional confirmation hearing] … And, Mr. Chairman, I stand for the separation of Church and State, and the reason that I stand for that is the same reason that I believe our forefathers did. It is not there to protect religion from the grasp of government but to protect our government from the grasp of religious fanaticism. Now, I may be an atheist, but that does not mean I do not go to church. I do go to church. The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves, that gave women the right to vote, that gave us every freedom that we hold dear. My church is this very Chapel of Democracy that we sit in together, and I do not need God to tell me what are my moral absolutes. I need my heart, my brain, and this church.[/b]

Would that it could be so.

[b]Runyon: We’re both sticking to our guns. The difference is, mine are loaded.

Runyon: There’s a reason they call me “Honest Shell”.
President: Irony, Shelly.

Runyon: I don’t mind confessing, I am at a total fucking loss.
President: Shelly, Jack paid that woman to go off the fucking bridge. He paid her to save her.

President [to Hathaway]: Who doesn’t want a shortcut to greatness.

President: You know, Laine…you could’ve looked those pricks in the eye and told them the truth. Under oath. Told them they were full of shit. And barring that, you could’ve at least told me.
Laine: But see, it really wasn’t any of your business either, and it still isn’t.[/b]

Here is earth. Up there is Heaven. Down there is Hell. Using Jacob’s Ladder you ascend or descend from here to there. But since this is all happening in your head the permutations are incalculable. Especially if you throw in calamities like Vietnam, PTSS and experimental drugs. In particular, Agent Orange of the brain.

And [of course] you’ve got to believe all this shit in the first place. Though some no doubt wish to hell they could figure out how.

Jacob’s on the subway reading Albert Camus’s The Stranger. Inauspicious beginnings.

Death, demons and dispositions. Purgatory. The part in the middle after the part in the middle. Is this better than nothing at all?

I spent a year in Vietnam myself. Nothing like this though.

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[b]According to writer Bruce Joel Rubin, the script was heavily inspired by the Bardo Thodol (The Tibetan Book of the Dead), the biblical story of Jacob’s ladder and Robert Enrico’s Oscar-winning short film An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge, based on the 1890 Ambrose Bierce short story ‘An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge’ dealing with a man’s experience of his life from a traumatic experience until his death.

The closing legend of the film mentions the testing of a drug named BZ in Vietnam. BZ is NATO code for a hallucinogen called 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, which was rumored to have been administered to US troops during the Vietnam War in an attempt to increase their combat abilities.[/b]

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BZ (or Agent Buzz) is NATO code for a hallucinogen called 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate, which was rumored to have been administered to US troops during the Vietnam War in an attempt to increase their combat effectiveness. The Pentagon has always denied the rumor, and those who condemn the story as a complete fabrication have pointed out that BZ would be an unusual drug to administer in an attempt to increase combat efficiency, insofar as BZ is an incapacitating agent, not a stimulant. Such arguments point out that common effects of the drug include a diminished sense of awareness, visual impairment, disorientation, ataxia, slurred speech, irritability, inability to maintain concentration and loss of memory. Other effects, however, would suggest that BZ could very well have been used as a stimulant for combat soldiers. These include delusions, hallucinations, an inability to tell right from wrong, poor judgment, illogical rage and insatiable aggression.

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Jacob is told that the horrific events he experienced on his final day in Vietnam were the product of an experimental drug called “The Ladder”, which was used on troops without their knowledge. Jacob is told this by Michael, who is later seen treating his wounds in a Medevac helicopter. He is told that the drug was named for its ability to cause “a fast trip straight down the ladder, right to the primal fear, right to the base anger.” At the end of the film, a message is displayed mentioning the testing of a drug named BZ, NATO code for a deliriant and hallucinogen known as 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate that was rumored to have been administered to U.S. troops by the government in a secret attempt to increase their fighting power. The effects of BZ, however, are different from the effects of the drug depicted in Jacob’s Ladder. The film’s director Adrian Lyne himself noted that “nothing … suggests that the drug BZ—a super-hallucinogen that has a tendency to elicit maniac behavior—was used on U.S. troops.”

JACOB’S LADDER
Directed by Adrian Lyne

[b]Woman [reading Jacob’s palm]: You have a very strange line, hon. No, it’s not funny. See, according to this, you’re already dead.

Jacob: What a dream I was having. I was living with another woman. You know who it was?
Wife: I don’t want to know.
Jacob: Jezebel from the post office. You remember her. You met her at the Christmas Party that time. I was living with her. God, what a nightmare.

Jacob: Am I…Am I home?
Jezebel: Yeah. You’re right here. Home. Doctor says you’re lucky your brains didn’t boil. What a night, Jake, huh? You were screaming and kicking…and you kept saying, “Sarah, close the window,” over and over. And talking to your kids, even the dead one.
Jacob: Am I dead?
Jezebel: Oh, no. No. You’re right here.

Jezebel [screaming at Jacob]: ANYBODY IN THERE?! ANYBODY HOME?!
Jacob: Who are you?
Jezebel: Fuck you! Two weeks of this shit! I’ve had enough. Go ahead and rot if you want.

Paul: Something’s wrong, Jake. I don’t know what it is, but I can’t talk to anybody about it. I mean, I figured I could talk to you. You always used to listen, you know…I’m going to hell. That’s as straight as I can put it. That’s as straight as I can put it. And don’t tell me that I’m crazy 'cause I know I’m not. They’re coming after me. Who is? They’ve been following me. They’re coming out of the walls. I can’t trust anybody. But I got to talk to somebody. I got to talk to somebody, or I’m going to fly out of my fucking mind!

Paul: What happened? What happened that night? Why won’t they tell us?

Geary: You need a doctor.
Jacob: The Army did something to me. I got to prove it.
Geary: There’s nothing I can do, all right? Just leave me alone.
Jacob: Something’s going on here. You’re not telling me something. What’s wrong with you?
Geary: I’ll tell you what’s wrong. I don’t know you from Adam. You walk in with some bizarre-o story and demand I check it out. I did. I don’t know what you take me for, but you’ve used me.
Jacob: Used you?
Geary: I checked with the Army. You never even went to Vietnam.
Jacob: What’s that supposed to mean?
Geary: You and your friends are wacko! You were all discharged on psychological grounds after some war games in Thailand.

Doctor: Does he have any identification?
2nd doctor: No wallet, nothing.
Jacob: He stole it.
Doctor: Who did?
Jacob: Santa Claus.

Jacob: Jezzie…Get me out of here.
Doctor: Where do you want to go?
Jacob: Home.
Doctor: Home? This is your home. You’re dead.
Jacob: Dead? No. I just hurt my back, I’m not dead.
Doctor: What are you, then?
Jacob: I’m alive.
Doctor: Then what are you doing here?
Jacob: I don’t know.
[crying]
Jacob: This isn’t happening.
Doctor: What is happening?
Jacob: Get me out of here.
Doctor: There is no out of here. You’ve been killed, don’t you remember?

Louis: Well, you’ve done it to yourself this time, haven’t you?
Jacob: Am I dying, Louie?
Louis: From a slipped disk? That’ll be a first.

Louis: Meister Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: “The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won’t let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they’re not punishing you,” he said. “They’re freeing your soul. So, if you’re frightened of dying and you’re holding on, you’ll see devils tearing your life away. But if you’ve made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.” It’s just a matter of how you look at it.[/b]

I keep telling folks that, don’t I?

[b]Michael: I’d only been in jail 13 hours, I thought 'Nam couldn’t be any worse.
Jacob Singer: Shows how little you knew.
Michael: Yeah, really.

Michael: I’m working in a top-secret lab synthesizing mind-altering drugs. Not the street stuff. They had us isolating special properties-- the dark side. They wanted a drug that increased aggressive tendencies. They were scared. They were worried. They figured you guys were too soft, not fighting up to your potential. They wanted something to stir you up, make you mad, you know, tap into your anger. And we did it. Most powerful thing I ever saw. Even a bad trip, and believe me, I’ve had my share, do not compare to the fury of the Ladder.
Jacob: The Ladder? Yeah. That’s what they called it. A fast trip straight down the Ladder-- right to the primal fear, right to the base anger.[/b]

Ridiculous, isn’t it? Two words: Dick and Cheney. Anything can be rationalized to sustain the military industrial complex. Or, rather, to sustain, as the government and the corporate media put it, “national security”.

Or, instead, was the whole thing just a fucking NDE!!!

How much do I love this movie? Well, when I watch it [over and over again] I always imagine someone next to me who is seeing it for the first time.

But:

Rule #1: Don’t ask, “What’s it mean?”
Rule #2: See rule #1.

Still, if you must know, try this:

[b]David Lynch’s 10 Clues to Unlocking This Thriller:

Pay particular attention in the beginning of the film: at least two clues are revealed before the credits.

Notice appearances of the red lampshade.

Can you hear the title of the film that Adam Kesher is auditioning actresses for? Is it mentioned again?

An accident is a terrible event… notice the location of the accident.

Who gives a key, and why?

Notice the robe, the ashtray, the coffee cup.

What is felt, realized and gathered at the club Silencio?

Did talent alone help Camilla?

Notice the occurrences surrounding the man behind Winkies.

Where is Aunt Ruth?[/b]

Or this:

imdb.com/title/tt0166924/faq#.2.1.1

Me? I go this route:

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A. O. Scott of The New York Times writes that while some might consider the plot an “offense against narrative order … the film is an intoxicating liberation from sense, with moments of feeling all the more powerful for seeming to emerge from the murky night world of the unconscious.”

Sounds about right.

The film is dedicated to Jennifer Syme, a young actress whose story is startlingly similar to that of the character of Betty - but who in fact died after the bulk of the film was completed.

More on this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Syme

As Rita and Betty get into a cab on their way to Club Silencio, a piece of paper is visible on a pole that says, “Hollywood is HELL!”

Another clue? Or another red herring?

MULHOLLAND DRIVE
Written and directed by David Lynch

[b]Rita: What are you doing? We don’t stop here.

Luigi: This is the girl!
Adam: Hey, that girl is not in my film!
Vincenzo: It’s no longer your film.

Betty: I wonder where you were going.
Rita: Mulholland drive.
Betty: Mulholland drive?
Rita: That’s where I was going…Mulholland Drive.

Betty: Come on, it’ll be just like in the movies. We’ll pretend to be someone else.

Gene Clean: That ain’t no way to treat your wife, buddy, I don’t care what she’s done.

Betty: It’s strange calling yourself.

Cynthia: Do you know somebody called “the Cowboy”?
Adam: The Cowboy?
Cynthia: Yeah, the Cowboy. This guy, the Cowboy, wants to see you. Jason said he thought it’d be a good idea.
Adam: Oh, Jason thought it’d be a good idea for me to see the Cowboy. Well, should I wear my ten-gallon hat and my six-shooters?
What’s going on Cynthia?
Cynthia: It’s been a very strange day.
Adam: And getting stranger.

Cowboy: A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?
Adam: Sure.
Cowboy: Now… did you answer cause you thought that’s what I wanted to hear, or did you think about what I said and answer cause you truly believe that to be right?
Adam: I agree with what you said, truthfully.
Cowboy: What’d I say?
Adam: Uh… that a man’s attitude determines, to a large extent, how his life will be.
Cowboy: So since you agree, you must be someone who does not care about the good life.

Cowboy: Now, you will see me one more time if you do good. You will see me two more times if you do bad.

Betty: I guess you’re not Diane Selwyn.

Betty: Have you ever done this before?
Rita: I don’t know! Have you?
Betty: I want to with you…
[they kiss]
Betty: I’m in love with you…I’m in love with you.

Rita: Silencio. Silencio. Silencio. No hay banda. No hay banda. No hay orquestra. Silencio. Silencio. Silencio. Silencio. Silencio…

Betty: What’s it open?

Lady in the balcony: Silencio.[/b]

So: How close or how far is this from “The horror! The horror”.

Jesus’ Son:

I knew what was going to happen when they picked me up.

You got a good face, but you can’t sing for shit.

FH: There are some people out there who would like to know a thing or two about you. Would you describe yourself for those people?
Bill: I don’t know…I’m like a fat piece of shit, I guess.
FH: He’s overweight.
Bill: I’ve been shot twice though.
FH: Twice?
Bill: Yeah, once by each wife. Total of 3 bullets, making 4 holes, 3 in, 1 out.
FH: And you’re still alive?
Bill: Are you kidding?
FH: No.
Bill: Well, that is too bad, because it makes you sound awful stupid asking if I’m alive, 'cause obviously I am.
FH: Well, maybe I mean alive in a deeper sense. You could be talking, but still not be alive in a deeper sense.
Bill: Well, there’s no deeper shit than the kind we’re in right now, I’ll tell you that.

Her: do I make you nervous?

Him: No… Yeah, maybe a little.

when dennis leary’s character died from the same heroin that Billy Crudup’s character lived through, because of the woman that saved him, it showed the difference between those who are loved, and those who have no one.

What does this movie actually have to do with anything? Hell, if that was relevant almost none of them would get made. It does say something about the culture, though. But if, “the cure is worse than the disease” was ever relevant, it’s relevant here.

People it seems – men in particular – must stop being plastic. They need to stiffen their spines and take on “the system”. And then replace it with, say, mayhem. Only a little less psychotically.

Still, as far as I’m concerned, any film that eviserates our comsumer pop culture like this one does is worth watching. Again and again if necessary. Also, it’s contempt for corporate culture.

And who needs the science behind dialectical materialism when you’ve got Project Mayhem? On the other hand, Project Mayhem is the reason Jon Hein invented the expression, “jumped the shark”.

And then there’s Marla Singer. Even without balls she’s scary. As for all the other women, well, they don’t really exist. This is a Movie For Men.

As for the plot twist, what difference does it make to the narrative? It either speaks to you or it doesn’t. And there are lots of alternatives to the macho-maniacal world of fight club. Not that they actually exist of course. At least not much beyond OWS.

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[b]The original “pillow talk”-scene had Marla saying “I want to have your abortion”. When this was objected to by Fox 2000 Pictures President of Production Laura Ziskin, David Fincher said he would change it on the proviso that the new line couldn’t be cut. Ziskin agreed and Fincher wrote the replacement line, “I haven’t been fucked like that since grade school”. When Ziskin saw the new line, she was even more outraged and asked for the original line to be put back, but, as per their deal, Fincher refused.

Author Chuck Palahniuk first came up with the idea for the novel after being beaten up on a camping trip when he complained to some nearby campers about the noise of their radio. When he returned to work, he was fascinated to find that nobody would mention or acknowledge his injuries, instead saying such commonplace things as “How was your weekend?” Palahniuk concluded that the reason people reacted this way was because if they asked him what had happened, a degree of personal interaction would be necessary, and his workmates simply didn’t care enough to connect with him on a personal level. It was his fascination with this societal ‘blocking’ which became the foundation for the novel.

During the shooting of the sex scene, actors Brad Pitt and Helena Bonham Carter posed in 10 different positions from the Kama Sutra. They spent three days recording orgasmic sounds for their unseen sex scenes.[/b]

FIGHT CLUB
Directed by David Fincher

[b]Narrator: When you have insomnia, you’re never really asleep… and you’re never really awake. With insomnia, nothing’s real. Everything’s far away. Everything’s a copy of a copy of a copy.

Narrator: When deep space exploration ramps up, it’ll be the corporations that name everything, the IBM Stellar Sphere, the Microsoft Galaxy, Planet Starbucks.

Narrator: Like so many others, I had become a slave to the Ikea nesting instinct.

Narrator: Anything clever, like a coffee table in the shape of a yin -yang, I had to have it. The Klipsk personal office unit. The Hovetrekke home exerbike. Or the Ohamshab sofa with the Strinne green stripe pattern. Even the Ryslampa wire lamps of environmentally-friendly unbleached paper. I’d flip through catalogues and wonder “What kind of dining set defines me as a person?” I had it all. Even the glass dishes with tiny bubbles and imperfections, proof that they were crafted by the honest, hard-working, indigenous peoples of…wherever.

Doctor: You wanna see pain? Swing by First Methodist Tuesday nights. See the guys with testicular cancer. That’s pain.

Narrator: Then she ruined everything.
Marla: This is cancer, right?

Narrator: Marla Singer did not have testicular cancer. She was a liar. She had no diseases at all. I had seen her at Free and Clear, my blood parasite group Thursdays. Then at Hope, my bi-monthly sickle cell circle. And again at Seize the Day, my tuberculous Friday night. Marla…the big tourist. Her lie reflected my lie. Suddenly, I felt nothing. I couldn’t cry, so once again I couldn’t sleep.

Narrator: If I did have a tumor, I’d name it Marla.

Narrator: I’ll tell you: we’ll split up the week, okay? You take lymphoma, and tuberculosis…
Marla Singer: You take tuberculosis. My smoking doesn’t go over at all.
Narrator: Okay, good, fine. Testicular cancer should be no contest, I think.
Marla Singer: Well, technically, I have more of a right to be there than you. You still have your balls.
Narrator: You’re kidding.
Marla Singer: I don’t know… am I?
Narrator: No, no! What do you want?
Marla Singer: I’ll take the parasites.
Narrator: You can’t have both the parasites, but while you take the blood parasites…
Marla Singer: I want brain parasites.
Narrator: I’ll take the blood parasites. But I’m gonna take the organic brain dementia, okay?
Marla Singer: I want that.
Narrator: You can’t have the whole brain, that’s…
Marla Singer: So far you have four, I only have two!
Narrator: Okay. Take both the parasites. They’re yours. Now we both have three…
Marla Singer: So, we each have three… that’s six. What about the seventh day? I want ascending bowel cancer.
Narrator: [Narrating] The girl had done her homework.
Narrator: No. No, I WANT bowel cancer.
[the clerk gives them both a weird look]
Marla Singer: That’s your favorite too? Tried to slip it by me, eh?
Narrator: Look, we’ll split it.Take the first and third Sunday.
Marla: Deal.

Narrator: When people think you’re dying, they really, really listen to you, instead of just…
Marla: …instead of just waiting for their turn to speak?

Narrator: Marla’s philosophy of life is that she might die at any moment. The tragedy, she said, was that she didn’t.

Narrator: Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave Cordon Bleu hobby kit. Shampoo-conditioner combos, sample-packaged mouthwash, tiny bars of soap. The people I meet on each flight? They’re single-serving friends.

Narrator: On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.
Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn’t believe.
Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.

Tyler [pointing at an emergency instruction manual on a plane]: You know why they put oxygen masks on planes?
Narrator: So you can breathe.
Tyler: Oxygen gets you high. In a catastrophic emergency, you’re taking giant panicked breaths. Suddenly you become euphoric, docile. You accept your fate. It’s all right here. Emergency water landing - 600 miles an hour. Blank faces, calm as Hindu cows.
Narrator: That’s, um… That’s an interesting theory.

Tyler: Did you know that if you mix equal parts of gasoline and frozen orange juice concentrate you can make napalm?
Narrator: No, I did not know that; is that true?
Tyler: That’s right… One could make all kinds of explosives, using simple household items.
Narrator: Really…?
Tyler: If one were so inclined.
Narrator: Tyler, you are by far the most interesting single-serving friend I’ve ever met… see I have this thing: everything on a plane is single-serving…
Tyler: Oh I get it, it’s very clever.
Narrator: Thank you.
Tyler: How’s that working out for you?
Narrator: What?
Tyler: Being clever.
Narrator: Great.
Tyler: Keep it up then… Right up.
[Gets up from airplane seat]
Tyler: Now a question of etiquette; as I pass, do I give you the ass or the crotch…?

[the Narrator’s apartment has just been blown to pieces]
Narrator: I had it all. I had a stereo that was very decent, a wardrobe that was getting very respectable. I was close to being complete.
Tyler: Shit man, now it’s all gone. Do you know what a duvet is?
Narrator: It’s a comforter…
Tyler: It’s a blanket. Just a blanket. Now why do guys like you and me know what a duvet is? Is this essential to our survival, in the hunter-gatherer sense of the word? No. What are we then?
Narrator: …Consumers?
Tyler: Right. We are consumers. We’re the bi-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty, these things don’t concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy’s name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.
Narrator: Martha Stewart.
Tyler: Fuck Martha Stewart. Martha’s polishing the brass on the Titanic. It’s all going down, man. So fuck off with your sofa units and Strinne green stripe patterns.

Tyler: The things you own end up owning you.

Narrator: After fighting, everything else in your life got the volume turned down.

Tyler: If you could fight anyone, who would you fight?
Narrator: Shatner. I’d fight William Shatner.

Narrator: Everywhere we went, we were sizing things up. I felt sorry for guys packed into gyms, trying to look like how Calvin Klein or Tommy Hilfiger said they should. Is that what a man looks like?
Tyler: Self-improvement is masturbation. Now, self-destruction…

Narrator: I’m on my way out.
Marla: Me too. I’ve got a stomach full of Xanax.I took what was left of a bottle.It might have been too much. This isn’t a for-real suicide thing.This is probably a cry -for-help thing. Do you wanna wait and hear me describe death? Do you wanna listen and see if my spirit can use a phone? Have you ever heard a death rattle before? Do you think it will live up to its name? Or will it just be a death…hairball? Prepare to evacuate soul.

Marla: My God. I haven’t been fucked like that since grade school.

Richard: Is that your blood?
Narrator: Some of it, yeah.

Marla: The condom is the glass slipper of our generation.You slip one on when you meet a stranger. You dance all night. Then you throw it away. The condom, I mean. Not the stranger.

Tyler: I’ll say this about Marla. At least she’s trying to hit bottom.
Narrator: And I’m not?
Tyler: Stickin’ feathers up your butt do not make you a chicken.

Tyler: Once the tallow hardens, you skim off a layer of glycerin. Add nitric acid, you’ve got nitroglycerin. Then add sodium nitrate and sawdust, you’ve got dynamite. Yeah, with enough soap, one could blow up just about anything.
Narrator: Tyler was full of useful information.

Tyler: Now, ancient people found their clothes got cleaner if they washed them at a certain spot in the river. You know why?
Narrator: No.
Tyler: Human sacrifices were once made on the hills above this river. Bodies burnt, water seeped through the wood ashes to create lye.
[holds up a bottle]
Tyler: This is lye - the crucial ingredient. The lye combined with the melted fat of the bodies, till a thick white soapy discharge crept into the river. May I see your hand, please?
[Tyler licks his lips until they’re gleaming wet - he takes the Narrator’s hand and kisses the back of it]
Narrator: What is this?
Tyler: This…
[pours the lye on the Narrator’s hand]
Tyler: This is chemical burn. It will hurt more than you’ve ever been burned before. You will have a scar.

Narrator: [about the soap] Tyler sold his soap to department stores at $20 a bar. Lord knows what they charged. It was beautiful. We were selling rich women their own fat asses back to them.

Tyler: Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who’ve ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don’t need. We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war…our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.

Narrator: Let’s pretend.You’re the Department of Transportation, OK? Someone informs you that this company installs front-seat mounting brackets that failed collision tests, brake linings that fail after a 1,000 miles, and fuel injectors that explode and burn people alive. What then?
Richard: Are you threatening me?
Narrator: No…
Richard: Get the fuck out of here. You’re fired!

Narrator: Tyler was now involved in a lawsuit with the Pressman Hotel over the urine content of their soup.

Tyler: You’re not your job. You’re not how much money you have in the bank. You’re not the car you drive. You’re not the contents of your wallet. You’re not your fucking khakis.

Tyler: All the ways you wish you could be, that’s me. I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.

Tyler: God Damn! We just had a near-life experience, fellas.

Narrator: This is crazy…
Tyler: People do it everyday, they talk to themselves… they see themselves as they’d like to be, they don’t have the courage you have, to just run with it.

Narrator: You met me at a very strange time in my life.[/b]

Soon, he won’t be here either. And it is towards this end that the times are really always changin’.

As with Andy Warhol and John Lennon, Bob Dylan was an icon bursting at the seams with irony.

In a word…surreal? Oh, and plastic. The stuff fight clubs devolve out of.

Why the different names for the same man?

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Also, from wiki

[b]In a comment on why six actors were employed to portray different facets of Dylan’s personality, Haynes wrote:

“The minute you try to grab hold of Dylan, he’s no longer where he was. He’s like a flame: If you try to hold him in your hand you’ll surely get burned. Dylan’s life of change and constant disappearances and constant transformations makes you yearn to hold him, and to nail him down. And that’s why his fan base is so obsessive, so desirous of finding the truth and the absolutes and the answers to him – things that Dylan will never provide and will only frustrate…Dylan is difficult and mysterious and evasive and frustrating, and it only makes you identify with him all the more as he skirts identity.”[/b]

In a nutshell: dasein.

Dylan, identity and death. And this time it’s not even between the lines. If you don’t count cracks and crevices.

But, okay: Sometimes he does come off as a fucking reactionary. Other times as a godamn idiot. You know, the way some see you and me.

But then he was once a hick from the sticks, right?

Look for the occasional giraffe.

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Different sections of the film were inspired by different cinematic sources. The “Jude” section was inspired by 8½, the “Billy” section was inspired by the so-called “hippie westerns” of the late 60s and early 70s (such as Sam Peckinpah’s films) and the “Robbie” section was inspired by the films of Jean-Luc Godard, especially Masculin Féminin.

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[b]Todd Haynes and his producer, Christine Vachon, approached Bob Dylan’s manager, Jeff Rosen, to obtain permission to use Dylan’s music and to fictionalize elements of Dylan’s life. Rosen suggested that Haynes should send a one page synopsis of his film for submission to Dylan. Rosen advised Haynes not to use the word ‘genius’. The page Haynes submitted began with a quote from Arthur Rimbaud: “I is someone else”, and then continued:

“If a film were to exist in which the breadth and flux of a creative life could be experienced, a film that could open up, as opposed to consolidating, what we think we already know walking in, it could never be within the tidy arc of a master narrative. The structure of such a film would have to be a fractured one, with numerous openings and a multitude of voices, with its prime strategy being one of refraction, not condensation. Imagine a film splintered between seven separate faces — old men, young men, women, children — each standing in for spaces in a single life.”[/b]

Dylan gave Haynes permission to proceed with his project.

I’M NOT THERE
Written and directed by Todd Haynes

[b]Hobo Joe [Woody shows Hobo Joe and Hobo Moe his guitar case which says ‘THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS’]: You wouldn’t be stashing no weapons in there, son?
Woody: No sir, not in any literalized way.

Hobo Joe: Well, what brings you around these parts?
Woody: Carelessness.

Announcer: Greenwich Village, once the in spot for beatnik jazz and bebop, is today home to the popular folk music fad, a do-it-yourself musical expression that’s attracted youngsters from all across the nation. For them, these homespun songs of the working man express a truth and candor sorely lacking in today’s growing consumer society.
Reporter: Why do you prefer folk music to other types of music?
Young woman: Because it’s honest. Commercial songs, pop music can’t be honest. It’s controlled and censored by the people who run society and make the rules.

Claire: I would like to know what is at the center of your world.
Robbie: Well, I’m 22, I guess I would say me.

Jack: All they see is the cause and how they use people for their cause. And now they’re trying to use me for something. They want me to…want me to carry a picket sign and have my picture taken, be a good little nigger, you know, and not mess up their little game. All they want from me is finger-pointing songs. I only got ten fingers.

Jack: It’s a fierce, heavy feeling, thinking that something’s expected of you, but you don’t know exactly what it is. Brings forth a weird kind of guilt.

Reporter: Mr. Quinn, Mr. Quinn! Do you have a word for your fans?
Jude: Uh, astronaut.

Reporter: How many would you say are protest singers today? That is, people who protest against the social state we live in?
Jude: Uh, how many?
Reporter: Yes. Are there many?
Jude: Yeah, um…I-I think there’s about 136.

Keenan: Mr. Quinn, Keenan Jones from Culture Beat. As someone symbolic of the protest movement among young people, some have questioned, given your latest recordings, whether or not you still care about people as you once did.
Jude: Yeah, but, you know, we all have our own definitions of all those words. “Care” and “people…”
Keenan: Well, I think we all know the definition of people.
Jude: Do we?

Jude [reading about himself in the paper]: God, I’m glad I’m not me.

Jude: But you never know how the past will turn out.

Allen Ginsberg: [to Jude] Maybe you sold out to God.

Jude: Who cares what I think? I’m not the president. I’m not some shepherd. I’m just a storyteller, man. It’s all I am.
Keenan: Well, certainly. But as someone who once cared deeply, as a storyteller, for social justice, equality…certainly you still care as a human being.
Jude: Well, why?
Keenan: Why?
Jude: I mean, what do you care? If I care, or I don’t care, what’s it to you? All right, what if I said I never cared about, you know, folk music? About, you know, protest songs? It was all about jumping into a scene. You know, I was never gonna stay there. I mean, I just…I knew I could do it better than anybody else.

Keenan: You know, I am convinced of one thing. You either do care about nothing at all, or tremendously much that people think so.
Jude: Listen, I know more about you, right, than you will ever know about me. You think I give a crumpet what you write in your lousy paper? Now, I don’t need to look to someone else, man, to tell me I’m good. Slaughter me, for all I care. I refuse to be hurt.[/b]

They’re both right of course.

[b]Arthur: I accept chaos. I don’t know whether it accepts me.

Billy the Kid: Here I’m invisible even to myself.

Coco: Judey knows who Angelina is, don’t you, Judey?
Jude: If you’re asking if I remember your little pussy, of course I do.
Coco: Charming.
Jude: She has the sweetest little pussy. If you don’t count the teeth.

Jude: Don’t worry, man. She’ll be back. Chick’s gotta shit on something.

Woman: You know, people said you could be a real cocksucker.
Jude [really fucked up]: Well, it’s not what goes into a man’s mouth, babe, that defiles it. Woman: No, it’s what comes out.
Jude: Good and evil were invented by people trapped in SCENES!

[Ginsburg and Dylan looking up at a crucifixtion of Christ]
Ginsburg: You better get down from there before you get yourself killed.
Dylan: How does it feel? Why don’t you do your early stuff?

TV Reporter: In spring of 1974, Jack Rollins followed girlfriend Angela Reeves to Stockton, California, and enrolled in a course in Bible study here at the California Gateway Brotherhood Church, a Pentecostal assembly just outside Stockton. Six months later, Rollins accepted Jesus into his heart. Today, the one-time '60s folk hero is a fully ordained member of the Gateway Ministry and an active figure in the state’s evangelical community.[/b]

Like I said, at times a complete fucking idiot. This is stuff that will make you cringe. Is it really true? The music here alone is apalling. By this time though Bob Dylan had long ago faded from my frame of reference. Not that he lost any sleep over that.

[b]Jude: Doesn’t really matter, you know, what kind of nasty names people invent for the music. But, uh, folk music is just a word, you know, that I can’t use anymore. What I’m talking about is traditional music, right, which is to say it’s mathematical music, it’s based on hexagons. But all these songs about, you know, roses growing out of people’s brains and lovers who are really geese and swans are turning into angels - I mean, you know, they’re not going to die. They’re not folk music songs. They’re political songs. They’re already dead. You’d think that these traditional music people would - would gather that mystery, you know, is a traditional fact, you know, seeing as they’re all so full of mystery.
Keenan: And contradictions.
Jude: Yeah, contradictions.
Keenan: And chaos.
Jude: Yes, it’s chaos, clocks, and watermelons - you know, it’s - it’s everything. These people actually think I have some kind of, uh… fantastic imagination. It gets very, uh, lonesome. But traditional music is just, uh… it’s too unreal to die. It doesn’t need to be protected. You know, I mean, in that music is the only true valid death you can feel today, you know, off a record player. But like everything else in great demand, people try to own it. Has to do with, like, uh, the purity thing. I think its meaninglessness is holy. Everybody knows I’m not a folk singer.

Billy the Kid: People are always talking about freedom. Freedom to live a certain way, without being kicked around. Course the more you live a certain way, the less it feel like freedom. Me, uhm, I can change during the course of a day. I wake and I’m one person, when I go to sleep I know for certain I’m somebody else. I don’t know who I am most of the time. It’s like you got yesterday, today and tomorrow, all in the same room. There’s no telling what can happen.[/b]