The fake orgasm heard around the world. Well, anyway, the fake orgasm of a certain New York demographic.
Besides, in the real world there would almost certainly be the inevitable sequel: When Harry Divorced Sally. Or, even more likely, when Sally divorced Harry for sleeping around. Or, perhaps, when Sally shot and killed Harry for sleeping around. Sorry, I once watched a lot of of true crime docs.
Sure, we know that a lot of the observations here are spot on with respect to the complex relationships that can unfold between men and women wobbling back and forth between friendship and fucking. But they still barely scratch the surface with respect to all of the possible combinations there are. Of course, it’s the same thing between same-sex couples too.
So I tend to stick to the basics: it is well written [Nora Ephron] and it is often very, very funny. But it would have been all the more so though had they not stuck in those cringe-worthy “real-life story people” vignettes every ten to fifteen minutes. Thank god for fast forward. But, hey, that’s just me.
Of course I can well imagine the reaction of the uberman Kids here: Emasculation!
IMDb
[b]The orgasm scene was filmed at Katz’s Deli, an actual restaurant on New York’s E. Houston Street. The table at which the scene was filmed now has a plaque on it that reads, “Where harry met sally… hope you have what she had!”
The quote “I’ll have what she’s having” was not only voted #33 on the AFI’s list of “Best 100 Movie Quotes in American Film”, and the ONLY quote on the list to be spoken by a non-professional actor (it was director Rob Reiner’s mom who delivered the line).[/b]
at wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Harry_Met_Sally….
trailer: youtu.be/V8DgDmUHVto
WHEN HARRY MET SALLY [1889]
Directed by Rob Reiner
[b]Sally: Amanda mentioned you had a dark side.
Harry: That’s what drew her to me.
Sally: Your dark side?
Harry: Sure. Why? Don’t you have a dark side? I know, you’re probably one of those cheerful people who dot their “i’s” with little hearts.
Sally: I have just as much of a dark side as the next person.
Harry: Oh, really? When I buy a new book, I read the last page first. That way, in case I die before I finish, I know how it ends. That, my friend, is a dark side.
…
Harry: Do you ever think about death?
Sally: Yes.
Harry: Sure you do, a fleeting thought that jumps in and out of the transom of your mind. I spend hours, I spend days…
Sally: And you think that makes you a better person.
Harry: Look, when the shit comes down I’m gonna be prepared and you’re not…that’s all I’m saying.
Sally: And in the mean time you’re gonna ruin your whole life waiting for it.
…
Sally: It just so happens that I have had plenty of great sex.
Harry: With whom did you have this great sex?
Sally: I’m not going to tell you that.
Harry: Fine, don’t tell me.
[she thinks about it]
Sally: Shel Gordon.
Harry: Shel? Sheldon? No, no, you did not have great sex with Sheldon.
Sally: I did too.
Harry: No you didn’t. A Sheldon can do your income taxes, if you need a root canal, Sheldon’s your man…but humpin’ and pumpin’ is not Sheldon’s strong suit. It’s the name. ‘Do it to me Sheldon, you’re an animal Sheldon, ride me big Shel-don.’ Doesn’t work.
…
Harry: I’ll have a number three.
Sally: I’d like the chef salad please with the oil and vinegar on the side and the apple pie a la mode.
Waitress: Chef and apple a la mode
Sally: But I’d like the pie heated and I don’t want the ice cream on top, I want it on the side, and I’d like strawberry instead of vanilla if you have it, if not then no ice cream just whipped cream but only if it’s real; if it’s out of the can then nothing.
Waitress: Not even the pie?
Sally: No, I want the pie, but then not heated.
…
Sally [on why she broke up with Sheldon]: Well, if you must know, it was because he was very jealous, and I had these days of the week underpants.
Harry: Ehhhh. I’m sorry. I need the judges ruling on this. “Days of the weeks underpants”?
Sally: Yes. They had the days of the week on them, and I thought they were sort of funny. And then one day Sheldon says to me, “You never wear Sunday.” It was all suspicious. Where was Sunday? Where had I left Sunday? And I told him, and he didn’t believe me.
Harry: What?
Sally: They don’t make Sunday.
Harry: Why not?
Sally: Because of God.
…
Harry: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally: Why not?
Harry: What I’m saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can’t be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally: That’s not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry: No you don’t.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: No you don’t.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: You only think you do.
Sally: You say I’m having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry: No, what I’m saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally: So, you’re saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally: What if THEY don’t want to have sex with YOU?
Harry: Doesn’t matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally: Well, I guess we’re not going to be friends then.
Harry: I guess not.
Sally: That’s too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
…
Harry: And was it worth it? The sacrifice for a friend you don’t even keep in touch with?
Sally: Harry, you might not believe this, but I never considered not sleeping with you a sacrifice.
…
Harry: You’re with Joe, what, three weeks?
Sally: A month. How did you know that?
Harry: You take someone to the airport, it’s clearly the beginning of the relationship. That’s why I have never taken anyone to the airport at the beginning of a relationship.
Sally: Why?
Harry: Because eventually things move on and you don’t take someone to the airport and I never wanted anyone to say to me, How come you never take me to the airport anymore?
Sally: It’s amazing. You look like a normal person but actually you are the angel of death.
…
Harry [after telling Sally he is getting married]: You just get to a certain point where you get tired of the whole thing.
Sally: What “whole thing”?
Harry: The whole life-of-a-single-guy thing. You meet someone, you have the safe lunch, you decide you like each other enough to move on to dinner. You go dancing, you do the white-man’s over-bite, go back to her place, you have sex and the minute you’re finished you know what goes through your mind? How long do I have to lie here and hold her before I can get up and go home. Is thirty seconds enough?
Sally (In disgust): That’s what you’re thinking? Is that true?
Harry: Sure! All men think that. How long do you want to be held afterwards? All night, right? See there’s your problem, somewhere between thirty seconds and all night is your problem.
Sally: I don’t have a problem!
Harry: Yeah you do.
…
Harry: Would you like to have dinner?.. Just friends.
Sally: I thought you didn’t believe men and women could be friends.
Harry: When did I say that?
Sally: On the ride to New York.
Harry: No, no, no, I never said that…
[he thinks about it]
Harry: Yes, that’s right, they can’t be friends. Unless both of them are involved with other people, then they can…This is an amendment to the earlier rule. If the two people are in relationships, the pressure of possible involvement is lifted…That doesn’t work either, because what happens then is, the person you’re involved with can’t understand why you need to be friends with the person you’re just friends with. Like it means something is missing from the relationship and why do you have to go outside to get it? And when you say “No, no, no it’s not true, nothing is missing from the relationship,” the person you’re involved with then accuses you of being secretly attracted to the person you’re just friends with, which you probably are. I mean, come on, who the hell are we kidding, let’s face it. Which brings us back to the earlier rule before the amendment, which is men and women can’t be friends. So where does that leave us?
…
Marie [to Sally]: All I’m saying is that somewhere out there is the man you are supposed to marry. And if you don’t get him first, somebody else will, and you’ll have to spend the rest of your life knowing that somebody else is married to your husband
…
Harry: So I say to her, “Don’t you love me anymore?” You know what she says?
(Jess shakes his head)
Harry: “I don’t know if I’ve ever loved you.”
Jess: Ooo that’s harsh. You don’t bounce back from that right away.
Harry: Thanks Jess.
Jess: No, I’m a writer, I know dialogue and that’s particularly harsh.
…
Jess: You’re saying Mr. Zero knew you were getting a divorce a week before you did?
Harry: Mr. Zero know.
Jess: I can’t believe this!
Harry: I haven’t told you the bad part yet.
Jess: What could be worse than Mr. Zero knowing?
Harry: It’s all a lie. She’s in love with somebody else, some tax attorney. She moved in with him.
Jess: How did you find out?
Harry: I followed her, I stood outside the building.
Jess: So humiliating.
Harry: Tell me about it. And do you know I knew? I knew the whole time that even though we were happy it was just an illusion and that one day she will kick the shit out of me.
Jess: Marriages don’t break up on a count of infidelity. It’s just a symptom that something else is wrong.
Harry: Oh really? Well that symptom is fucking my wife.
…
Marie [to Sally in the bookstore]: Someone is staring at you in “personal growth”.
…
Harry: There are two kinds of women: high maintenance and low maintenance.
Sally: Which one am I?
Harry: You’re the worst kind; you’re high maintenance but you think you’re low maintenance.
Sally: I don’t see that.
Harry: You don’t see that? “Waiter, I’ll begin with a house salad, but I don’t want the regular dressing. I’ll have the balsamic vinegar and oil, but on the side. And then the salmon with the mustard sauce, but I want the mustard sauce on the side.” On the side is a very big thing for you.
Sally: Well, I just want it the way I want it.
Harry: I know; high maintenance.
…
Harry: Had my dream again where I’m making love, and the Olympic judges are watching. I’d nailed the compulsories, so this is it, the finals. I got a 9.8 from the Canadians, a perfect 10 from the Americans, and my mother, disguised as an East German judge, gave me a 5.6. Must have been the dismount.
…
Sally: Well, basically it’s the same dream I’ve been having since I was twelve.
Harry: Which is?
Sally: Okay, there’s this guy…
Harry: What does he look like?
Sally: I don’t know, he’s just sort of faceless.
Harry: Faceless guy, okay.
Sally: He RIPS off my clothes.
[pause]
Harry: And?
Sally: That’s it.
Harry: That’s it? Some faceless guy rips off all your clothes, and that’s the sex fantasy you’ve been having since you were twelve? Exactly the same.
Sally: Well sometimes I vary it a little.
Harry: Which part?
Sally: What I’m wearing.
…
Jess: You tell Sally about other women?
Harry: Yeah, like the other night, I made love to this woman. It was so incredible, I took her to a place that wasn’t human. She actually meowed.
Jess: You made a woman meow?
Harry: Yeah, that’s the point. I can say these things to her. And the great thing is, I don’t have to lie, because I am not always thinking about how to get her into bed. I can just be myself.
Jess: You made a woman meow?
…
Lady at restaurant: I’ll have what she’s having.
…
Jess: When someone is not that attractive, they’re always described as having a good personality.
Harry: Look, if you would ask me, “What does she look like?” and I said, “She has a good personality.” That means she’s not attractive. But just because I happened to mention that she has a good personality, she could be either. She could be attractive with a good personality, or not attractive with a good personality.
Jess: So which one is she?
Harry: Attractive.
Jess: But not beautiful, right?
…
Harry [to Jess and Marie]: Right now everything is great, everyone is happy, everyone is in love and that is wonderful. But you gotta know that sooner or later you’re gonna be screaming at each other about who’s gonna get this dish. This eight dollar dish will cost you a thousand dollars in phone calls to the legal firm of That’s Mine, This Is Yours.
Sally: Harry.
Harry: Please, Jess, Marie. Do me a favor, for your own good, put your name in your books right now before they get mixed up and you won’t know whose is whose. 'Cause someday, believe it or not, you’ll go 15 rounds over who’s gonna get this coffee table. This stupid wagon wheel ROY ROGERS GARAGE SALE COFFEE TABLE!
Jess: I thought you liked it!
Harry: I WAS BEING NICE!
…
Harry: If you’re so over Joe, why aren’t you seeing anyone?
Sally: I see people.
Harry: See people? Have you slept with one person since you broke up with Joe?
Sally: What the hell does that have to do with anything? That will prove I’m over Joe? Because I fuck somebody? Harry, you’re gonna have to move back to New Jersey because you’ve slept with everybody in New York and I don’t see that turning Helen into a faint memory for you.
…
Jess [to Harry and Sally while lugging the wagon wheel coffee table out of the apartment]: Don’t say a word.
…
Jess: Emily is terrific.
Harry: Yeah. But of course when I asked where she was when Kennedy was shot she said, “Ted Kennedy was shot?”
…
Marie: Tell me I’ll never have to be out there again.
Jess: You will never have to be out there again.
…
Harry [to Jess]: It’s just like most of the time you go to bed with someone, she tells you her stories, you tell her your stories. But with Sally and me, we’ve already heard each other’s stories, so once we went to bed, we didn’t know what we were suppose to do, you know?
…
Sally: Is Harry bringing anybody to the wedding?
Marie: I don’t think so.
Sally: Is he seeing anybody?
Marie: He was seeing this anthropologist, but…
Sally: What’s she look like?
Marie: Thin. Pretty. Big tits. Your basic nightmare.
…
Harry: You know how a year to a person is like seven years to a dog?
Sally: Yes. Is one of us supposed to be a dog in this scenario?
Harry: Yes.
Sally: Who is the dog?
Harry: You are.
Sally: I am? I am the dog? I am the dog?
…
Jess [at his wedding to Marie]: Everybody could I have your attention please? I’d like to propose a toast to Harry and Sally. To Harry and Sally, if Marie or I had found either of them remotely attractive, we would not be here today.
…
Harry: I came here tonight because when you realise you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of the life to start as soon as possible.
Sally: You see, that is just like you Harry. You say things like that and you make it impossible for me to hate you. And I hate you Harry… I really hate you. I hate you. [/b]