Hi 
I am writing here cause my country has been struck by series of tornadoes lately. Of course they arenot as big as these in US. But this is…well… relatively new problem.
What do you think - is it God’s punishment that could have been avoided (doth not every tornado reaches the ground) or it should be seen only as a natural diseaster that just can happen… hmmm… what philosophy should be applied to explain
why the roof has just flown away… and so on…
the_botanist
Well, alot of philosophies can be said to explain that relatively new phenomenon, but only some can actually be used to predict the next time the tornado will hit accurately. You could say that there’s a god, and he cares what some little things on this planet do things to get by, and that he’s displeased and that he produced the tornado to punish these people, but this little theory won’t help you predict the next time a tornado will hit. All it’ll do is motivate a handful of people to go out in the streets with GOD HATES FAGS signs.
Now, just because a theory is useful towards predicting things accurately in the future does not mean that the theory is true. But then who cares about a true theory which doesn’t pragmatically count for anything.
Yes - I think you are right.Predicting by observing the sky and the weather.
But I think it is generally devil’s work. God allows devil to destroy things.
Maybe some people deserve it? But people should hate devil then. Not God.
When they mostly hate God after such natural diseasters.
Anyway only predicting can save us.
Thanks for your opinion.
ps. maybe praying would be more …effective than the best preventing even.
Cause it would be better not to experience it for the next time.
However, does it work? I mean - praying more.
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Hmm… this video is very sad. Indeed. But it could be also possible that:
a. the doctors would diagnose the girl badly and she would also die
b. she could be healed thanks to her parents prayers
I think she died cause the thing happened in US. In a shabby country she could be surely healed with prayers only.
Hmmm… so to sum up this plot - predicting for US, praying for shabby countries.
As deals… natural diseasters at least.
PS. And what do you think about 2012? Somehow lately I came to conclusion that - indeed - the end is soon… 
Ps. Anyway so many people were so unbelievable lucky during last tornado in Poland.
In almost every newspaper you can read “IT IS A MIRACLE WE ALL SURVIVED”
I hope during the next natural diseaster everyone will be the same way lucky.
And warned before.
Sure, these are all possible. But what is certain is that in this case prayer did didley squat. And it’s not like these parents weren’t sincere in their belief or in their praying ritual. They were dead certain that God would intervene and save the girl from the affliction. Were the doctors to have intervened, again nothing other what did happen coudl have happened, but then again, the past tells a different story. Historically, prayer has counted for nothing, whereas with science we’ve been capable to intercept rockets going 5x the speed of sound with rockets going 10x times the speed of sound.
Tell me one thing, “The botanist.” Were you afflicted with diabites and in need of immediate care, would you go to the doctor and have modern science take care of you, or would you pray?
Listen dude. What you’re claiming is verifiable. If acting in a certain way had any impact on the weather, then this phenomenon would have been discovered already. If men fucking other men in the ass influenced the weather, then that shit would be out there by now. The TV weathermen would probably be advising less sodomy whenever the weather turned for the worse.
I don’t think 2012 will bring anything dramatic. But I am using it as a excuse–albeit a rather lame one–to build up an emergency backpack full of knives, guns, a medical emergency pack, and some other things.
Tornados are modal realists.
Hi ,
Personally I THINK I don’t have any problems with sugar. I have some health problems but quite different. I think I know what you mean - we shouldnot overpreciate a meaning of prayer. Or some people shouldn’t. I can get it.
However I am from the country where “WHEN YOU WANT TO LIVE ALL RIGHT
PRAY, O MAN, PRAY DAY AND NIGHT /WHEN YOU WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE, PRAY
MAN ALSO AND DON’T CEASE”. Can you get it?
to build up an emergency backpack full of knives, guns, a medical emergency pack, and some other things.
Well… I thought a bit about this issue. But I think I am too poor to be well prepared for 2012 global cataclysm. First - I would have to but a lot of oxygen, then food, then plenty of batteries in case when the sun would go dark or dissapear. You know … besides , where can I buy these things in Poland?
Finally - for what.
But I don’t understand guy what for do you need a lot of knives? Are you going
to do something really bad?
the_botanist
I understand where you’re coming from. I was not born in these united states, either. Tradition is a more powerful force than logic in a society. People in a society don’t do things because they think it is logical. They do things because their parents did it–because of routine.
Yet, somehow, people like you and I, and everyone who visits this website are, for the most part, different. We can escape this, and become actors in the world who act based on what works best, and is logical, not on what tradition tells us. It is also people who think for their own selves, who shape society. It is not those people who do whatever tradition tells them to do.
Well, I’m not being prepared to meet such a crisis, either. I prepare myself for a scenario where electricity and communication will be out, and no help from the state will be available–not that the sky will turn black and fire and brimstone falls from the sky. I don’t think anyone is rich enough to survive this.
I’m only building a school sized backpack full of essential things a person would need if they were out of a civilized environment, and not a basement full of oxygen tanks and the years supply of food. You could probably make a backpack like mine for yourself for very little money. Just here and there, whenever you find an item over the years, put it in the backpack, and hopefully you’ll never need to use it.
I don’t plan to do bad things, pal. I’m just trying to be prepared for whatever situation befalls me. You know what they say. It’s better to have something and not need it, than to need something and not have it.