However, my pragmatic side offers another opinion,
As these Anti-American rats and vermin become more common and populated, it seems that philosophical and general political “discourse” are becoming populated with pea-brains like those above. These cretins do not have reasoned argument or rationales underneath them, so, they are desperate and need to threaten violence to garner any attention. Unfortunately, it’s working, especially when there is no Administration or Moderation on this forum. It seems to be promoted, by the radical-Left, that they can issue threats of physical violence without repercussions. If the radical-Left want to traverse this road, then so be it. I can play that game too.
If the radical-Left, Marxists, Communists want to draw blood, as they admittedly do, then let’s all go down this road…
And see what happens.
The radical-Left in America represents Anti-American values, Marxism, and Communism.
Enemies within, and ultimately, Traitors to this country and our Constitution, Anti-Christian as well.
They are becoming emboldened, which is why they feel the urge and compulsion to speak as they do. Essentially, the radical-Left is giving up and surrendering when it comes to the War of Ideas. They simply do not have any ideas to offer. This is proved the recent months by Kropotkin, who repeatedly misquoted me, claiming words that I did not write (because I am not the poster Obsrvr424), along with the claim that I am “from Russia”. This is combined onto somebody like smears, who constantly apologizes for the others and gaslights, “oh but they’re not actually threatening anything” and “they don’t mean it, really”. Gaslighting is the common attack.
They are “allowed” to make up complete lies and fabrication for their opposition, and then using that Strawman, justify violence thereafter.
Obviously, this is psychotic and hysterical. How easy is it, truly, to make up lies about people, paint them with it, and then say “they deserve violence done to them!”
For example, if anybody wants to argue actual issues, philosophy, ideas, etc. then it’s easy to distinguish who actually believes what. You could call me “Classically Liberal” even, on the issue of forcing people to inject whatever, or abortion, or Human Rights in general. I used to believe, and still do for the most part, that they were good ideas, and have worked up to now. But they seem to be failing. For example, the United States, cowed to the Chinese Communist Party, no longer openly leverage or speak against Muslim Uyghur genocide, organ harvesting, and concentration camps in China.
The ‘Morality’ of Western Civilization is disintegrating before our eyes.
Those responsible, blame their opposition, for what they-themselves are causing… this is demonstrated by Kropotkin’s spamming of forum posts, that nobody cares to read or argue, because it is a one-sided conversation, against a close-minded person. An agent of pure Propaganda. And these radicals are propagandized, which is easily observed and proved by their “talking points” and delusional characterization of their “opposition”.
They are fighting Strawmen in their heads, easy to do, when a populace becomes deathly-scared and afraid of any and everything…
I do believe this trend is representation of the Macrocosm.
The West, and the world, will likely see major wars and conflicts in the coming years. This is the precedent of 2022.
These “people” do want violence, harm, hate, and bloodshed. Let it be recorded, that I have been against that in the past, but am rapidly being ‘persuaded’ by my opposition. Again, if this is the road and ‘choice’ they want to make… then why not oblige them?
Maybe peace is not always a good thing?
Western Civilization has been deteriorating for a long while now. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, all have been weak Presidents, but at least with Trump, there was a surge of re-strengthening and re-positioning of core, Traditional, Conservative American values.
This ended when the President of the United States was censored by Big Tech, banned from Twitter and Facebook, and nothing was done, nor were the masses speaking out for the First Amendment.
Now, today, on ILP, a “philosophy” forum, the Administrators and Moderators do nothing against threats of violence. It is ‘acceptable’ to them, as were the BLM and Antifa riots, which destroyed countless peoples lives, with dozens of political murders and vendettas in the streets. Kyle Rittenhouse was merely a symptom, of what seems to be, much more to follow.
Who is to blame? These cretins would blame “the Right”. But I, personally, blame everybody, including those on this forum who allow, and choose, willingly this decay to continue.
Personally, I try to “stay out” of everything and let others make their choices. I do believe in Freedom and “Classical Liberalism” in that regard. That would traditionally put me in the “liberal-left” camp and category. But that is too far removed, now, as the Left openly advocates violence and physical threats. Because they have lost the “war of ideas”.
To Gloominary, and anybody with traditional American Values, I have a warning to issue.
Although the radical-Left will threaten you with violence, DO NOT RESPOND IN KIND!!!
Because they will use your retaliation and responses, as “evidence” against you. They will blame YOU for “starting it”, although they start it. It is best to respond with silence, if you are able, or simply defend yourself passively. I do believe in the Christian Ethos in this regard. Let them, and their violence come to you, and it will come eventually. Just be prepared to defend yourselves.
We are dealing with a “New Nazi” movement, funded by their Marxist backers (like George Soros).
These Neo-Liberals and Neo-Marxists want to force, under threat of violence, the American people to inject their children with experimental drugs they call “vaccines”.
Reject this with all of your heart, soul, and body.
This is, truly, the fight for Humanity and the future.
And they will come with violence, to destroy your children.
Perhaps a last note, before moving on…
This is what the radical-Left thinks of America, Americans, and our values, make no mistake:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMql8lhL9fU[/youtube]
The fights, and the wars to come, are only just beginning… I wish it were not true. But it’s time for America to wake up, and arise the Sleeping Giant.
All Americans,
Prepare your children for wars to come. Begin teaching them to fight, NOW, no matter how old they are.
Defend your Christian values, defend your Constitution, defend your children, defend your future.
The left sort of traded places with the right.
The left use to be a bit more constitutionalist (with the exception of gun control), libertarian and populist.
They were fiscally populist leaning and socially libertarian leaning.
By contrast the right was more authoritarian and elitist across the board, placing the interests of the bigs (big brother, big business, big pharma and the military), as well as Zion ahead of the people.
Now the right is a bit more constitutionalist, libertarian and populist.
They’re fiscally libertarian leaning and socially populist leaning.
By contrast the left has become more authoritarian and elitist across the board, placing the interests of the bigs, as well as minorities ahead of the people.
So a lot of cool people ditched the modern left for the modern right.
There’s still some cool people on the left, like Jimmy Dore and the company he keeps, unfortunately they’ve been increasingly marginalized by the mainstream left.
By contrast a lot of douchebags (neocons) ditched the modern right for the modern left (shitlibs).
I use to vote green party and NDP, but in the last two federal elections I voted for Maxime Bernier, a nationalist and classical liberal.
The left has become the dominant force today, the overclass is now donating far more to it than the right.
There is also more class inequality and sociopolitical division then there was, which has lead to civil unrest and may lead to civil war.
We can’t expect our institutions to be impartial, they’ve been infiltrated and subverted by the authoritarian left, instead we must work around them until they can be purged, preferably lawfully and peacefully.
Agreed, “preferably”, although we can go down the ‘unpreferable’ route too, depending on the choices of our enemies.
The radical-Left’s political power takeover is showing and revealing their “true selves”. They are, foolishly, showing their Hand. They over-estimate themselves. They are not used to political power, and it shows. You do not give a child a flame-thrower. Because this is the case, people must be weary and wiser. Let them burn themselves. Let their violence and hatred fester among themselves.
We do not need to show ourselves to them, when they so willingly defeat themselves.
Do not respond in kind, to their petulant taunts. They will soon find themselves alone, as more and more droves migrate to newer political parties and alignments.
Or alternatively:
The left sort of traded places with the right.
The left use to be a bit more constitutionalist (with the exception of gun control), moderate and populist.
They were fiscally populist leaning and socially moderate.
By contrast the right was more authoritarian and elitist across the board, placing the interests of the bigs (big brother, big business, big pharma and the military), as well as Zion ahead of the people.
Now the right is a bit more constitutionalist, moderate and populist.
They’re fiscally moderate and socially populist leaning.
By contrast the left has become more authoritarian and elitist across the board, placing the interests of the bigs, as well as minorities ahead of the people.
Definitely, they’ll start it, we’ll finish it.
That’s a good point, they’re not use to power, being the bullies, they’re drunk on it, hence burning neighborhoods to the ground for 7 months.
In the future they may be more sly with their abuse of power.
Unless we’re headed for civil war, then they’ll just get more psychotic.
Yea burning down America’s cities wasn’t a good look for them, it hurt them.
A fake pandemic, election fraud and turning the war on Islamism and foreign terror into the war on conservatism and domestic terror were much better moves.
I’m a fight fire with fire kind of guy, but yea sometimes letting them make asses of themselves is the better strategy.
Yeah, it reminds me of a young slum dog who bites and tastes blood, now it has to be put down or it’ll keep attacking people.
The far-Left are useful idiots, pawns for their Corporate overlords. They don’t realize it though. They drink the kool aid without question. This is why, somebody like Kropotkin, misquotes me as and believes I’m from Russia. They create Strawmen and fully believe in their delusions. They attack blindly, without knowing who or what they’re up against. The real problem though, fighting fire with fire, is that they have gained popularity and Quantity of idiots. It’s better to use guerilla tactics, until the political-Right regain political and cultural ground and territory. The positive note is that, the far-Left do not have control over the American ‘Meta-Narrative’. This is why they need to censor-censor-censor all MSM and Big Tech, etc. They cannot handle the rational/reasoned debate. This is causing alternative Big Tech to form, like www.gab.com. The political-Right and Center is making a rapid comeback, which is a good sign, although it could be too late (when it comes to mass/forced vaccination for example).
I’m old enough to remember when the political-Right ‘owned’ the political and cultural sphere, in 1990-1999. That was when Conservative-Christians censored music on the radio, music CDs, and video games. I was opposed to that then, and I am opposed to these far-Left loony-toons, domestic terrorists, now.
As you mentioned, the ‘Moderate’ and ‘Populist’ positions shift left and right, forward and back, up and down, rather slowly. But, the political-Left can be judged by their extremists, the far-left domestic terrorists, like Shieldmaiden, PK, Scultpor, ww3, and their groupies, along with the terrorist acts and organizations (BLM, Antifa, Kenosha, Waukesha, etc).
This is where Shieldmaiden and ww3 can be found, running in these groups:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uLaYzdvmk[/youtube]
gab.com/Psykosity/posts/107546873418678607
Our opposition, far-Left radicals, extremists, and terrorists are so out-of-touch with reality, that it’s actually quite funny and absurd.
At least, they have become the butt of jokes and comics. That is a good sign, and shows the narrative is changing yet again, hopefully quickly back to Center.
Yup, the mainstream left has given up on liberal democracy, they’re authoritarians now. That’s how badly their ideas suck, they can’t maintain power without censorship, fraud and violence.
Yup, it’s always easier to sling mud than clean it up.
What term best describes you, libertarian, classical liberal, conservative…?
For me I’d say populist, but it’s a critical populism, not necessarily going with what’s popular, but with what I, and we think’s best for the people (as opposed to special interest groups), according to my and our reason, research and instincts (as opposed to what big brother and the corporate media think’s best).
Liberal also describes me well (as opposed to authoritarian).
Unfortunately liberalism may be on its way out, I don’t want to become authoritarian to fight authoritarianism, but in the future we may not have much of a choice.
I consider myself a Constitutionalist for the most part.
I believe the US Constitution did a miraculous job for building America and inspiring the world, along with providing Liberty and Human Rights. However, most of the New World “opportunities” were simply based on Colonial and Conquistador drives from European explorers and settlers. “Capitalism” is premised on the defeat of American Native Indians, and then exploitation of New World settlers who were desperate to survive and thrive in a world far from their homelands. US “Racism” is tripartite, 1. of the Native Indians by which “Mexican” or Hispanics are mixed Native Indians with European Conquistadors, 2. of African slaves brought to America by the Semitic Slave Trade, and 3. of Anglo-Saxon Aristocrats who desired to resurrect Roman Republicanism by Enlightenment values – New World Protestant-Puritans with an inferiority complex toward Roman Catholicism.
I believe that Traditionalism favors the WASP Establishment. Those with deeper genetic heritage in the New World (including the Native populations) have more at stake with regard to politics and Constitutionalism. If the Constitution is nullified and voided, then the Social Contract is broken, and we no longer have a society, a people, a culture, an “America”. I believe foreign and domestic ‘Marxists’, radicals, terrorists, enemies foreign and domestic, are seeking to destroy the US Constitution. This is apparent in how Freedom of Speech is being fundamentally violated, including with threats of violence and death threats in the realm of philosophy. I do not believe it is coincidental. The US President was actively censored and banished from “social media”, MSM, and Big Tech. We are witnessing the end of Free Speech, and therefore, Western Civilization.
I believe that Constitutionalism incorporates all three of what you said, Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Conservatism. Because, what can Americans possibly “conserve”, if not the Constitution? Without these Laws and Values, there is nothing keeping society together. And we will go to war, as the Leftists/Marxists/Terrorists/Traitors seek to instigate, even around here.
However, I am Pragmatic and Practical. It may very well be the case, already, that the United States has ended, and that we are simply waiting for the inevitable. The Coup De Grace has already occurred; the wound is already fatal. At this point, USA is simply bleeding-out. This is because, historically, if USA is modeled on the Roman Republic …then Imperialism necessarily follows. And that means Class Division. The political-Left, far-Left, radicals, want to make the political-Right, into their ‘Underclass’, that they want to look down upon, smear, bully, and torture, with impunity. But, America is still Anti-Classist, and their message is failing, for now. Yet, that is ultimately the fight at hand. The political-Left never should have been brought to power, but, the Establishment feeling desperate, broke all the rules of previous decades and centuries, to depose Trump and the Populist movement.
Now we are at an impasse. I am willing to adapt to the changes. I am willing to put anything on the table, with regard to solutions, and be open-minded. Because what may come next, may very well be the complete destruction of Western Civilization, if people are not careful. Societies can easily slip into Totalitarianism, Autocracy, Tyranny, and Injustice the likes the world has not yet seen, worse than the 21st Century. This is reaffirmed to me, daily, weekly, monthly, by the opposition as they expose themselves, on this forum, and in the public realm. These people have no morals, no sense of reality, and their delusion-psychosis is deranged. As proven, they will create lies in their mind, fueled by propaganda, and then attack strangers on the street they believe match the demons inside their minds. They will destroy innocence at random. They already have. They will continue to do so.
If the United States becomes balkanized, and people wake up to a Divided States of America, then I believe in Re-publicanism. New Republics must form.
This would mean a Regress to Confederacy.
It seems the instigators push this more than any ‘Conservative’ would ever dream of. Because our opposite is driven by the need to Destroy, and their Hate. I advocate fighting fire with fire, when the odds are more equalized, because they will show no mercy. America is dealing with enemies foreign & domestic. I do not have faith that it will survive, at this point.
I believe that the US Federal Government can no longer protect the US Constitution, nor the public peace, nor ‘traditional’ American values.
The US Supreme Court cowered before the BLM/Antifa uprising, and refused to hear any claim of Election Fraud concerning the contested 2020 election.
The US Executor Donald Trump was powerless underneath the auspice of Big Tech and MSM, who blatantly censored and banished speech of the US President.
The US Legislator has been busy lining their pockets with obscene wealth and favors, getting rich, while selling-out the US populace to foreign influence.
Now the US Domestic Terrorists are emboldened to threaten violence against anybody who disagrees with them.
The further they go unpunished, the quicker US demise is imminent. Again, I already believe the death blow has been made.
The ship, will sink.
Consider this…
The posters on this forum, Shieldmaiden, Sculptor, Kropotkin, ww3 have admitted they want to “put a bullet in the brain” of those who disagree with them, meaning, us.
Now, I can claim self-defense when violence comes.
It is not you or I that ever threatened them, or spoke of violence or threats, ever. It would never be our side that needs to instigate and initiate such methods. Because they are desperate and addicted to power. They do not have reason and rationality, and so, they resort to what works for them, which is intimidation. At least, that works on some people, but not those who actually have something to fight for. We saw it in Kenosha with Kyle Rittenhouse.
What was the response to Kenosha? It was Waukesha. These scumbag, mother fuckers, will drive a vehicle through a Christmas parade, to prove their points.
That is our opposition.
And we are supposed to share a country together, a society? No. I will not share anything with these scum. I want nothing to do with them.
So, the fight will come, inevitably. They wanted to draw the line, and cross it, so be it. Let’s take names, and go down that road.
Urwrongx1000:
The posters on this forum, Shieldmaiden, Sculptor, Kropotkin, ww3 have admitted they want to “put a bullet in the brain” of those who disagree with them, meaning, us.
K: That is a lie that I have ever suggested any such thing…
and in fact, at the time, I was quite clear in saying that was wrong…
but hay, never let the truth get in the way of your propaganda…
Kropotkin
You said I’m not born in the United States. I guess that makes us even.
With regard to the lot of you, the rules are off the table as far as I’m concerned.