Mystery Method:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0j6jPlEgZ8[/youtube]
And what is the pua to do when encountering one of these types?
The PUA has to do what he always does best: Make the play, based on his best assesment of the situation. If he can’t, then he will stay the courses since that is what he does best. Then, depending on that and the receptions of his behavior, as best
interpreted by the object in question, may result in unpredictable effects, but here, the the ‘object’ will gain the upper hand, and depending on her whims,
may or may not play along. If the PUA is also
intelligent, a new tableau may develop, where a powerstruggle may morph into play acting, where the best actor may consider him/herself the winner.
Ultimately, there are no winners or loosers, until
some kind of limiting action, such as a satisfactory conclusion, either literal or figurative, or, most significantly, as a successful transformation from one
to the other occurs. Then follows some last minute compensation,with bargaining, to make an exit as appealing as possible. The PUA at this point has the least favorable bargaining position. (He has to
overcome the in like a lion and out like a lamb metaphor, as a natural consequence of starting the engagement in the first place, so the whole sequence of events, from beginning to end is frought with risk.
The best PUA can not come up to par to the obviously heightened expectations built up by this point.
Do you have any regrets in regard to the experiences you chose to have? or did they seem instinctual at the time… or was it merely fun?
Why ‘unfortunately’?
Eh… not much of an art if you ask me.
Because my familial, traditional learning was one dimensional, it presumed that later, much later, the dots can be connected, within very general courses of association, these associations reduced to the existential suspense, begging a further clarification down the line, to fill in the glaringly gaping holes of specific application. This is ok, in most cases, but in mine, the effort was, and still is almost Herculian. After the war, my life was literally reduced to an existential incomprehensibility, very much paralleling the existential angst shared by society as a whole. As a consequence, i had not recourse to project anything, formal or within the context of content. Change of venue, affected only the substantive elements, formally the transcription could not be made, only via with the pre-conceived tools thought with those very elemental and logicall methods.
I had to learn to apply the formal to the substantive.
In a sense the task was to try to figure out what was thought in terms of experience. Usually learning is presented co-jointly, or simolteniously.
The PUA prostitutes his essence into gimmicks, as he plays on the terms of what the other dictates and not his own, just like an inverted cross doesn’t make a satan any less Xt. simply because it is inverted on its head; its still the same foolish paradigm. While a Man Moulds, the pitiful pua surrenders himself to a series of trial and error self-adjustments. He is his own object. While a ‘score’ may enhance his confidence which amounts to an hour of accessibility to f—ing, on the converse, a loss in strategy has led many a wretched one to conclude he himself was a failure - the conflation of essence/appearance.
I’ve always seen people who read shit like this as losers. Like a bunch of sad little boys who can’t get any. Desperate, lonely, confused and angry…not realizing that the anger should be at themselves for their ineptitude. I’m sorry fellas, but if you can’t get a girl to like you, then you should just try and be more of a man. Here’s something to think about…if you’re mentally and financially stable, and you’re independent as in you can do what you want, and you have any ability whatsoever to interact with other human beings…then you should be getting laid just fine.
Now if you’re not mentally stable, or you’re a broke bastard, or you live with your parents or you have to work all the time and have no freedom or life…then you may end up having to tell lies and act retarded to get a girl’s attention.
But the better option is to just be a man. Women like men. You know…like an adult male who is the dude where the buck stops. The person who can take care of the problem. The person who can dictate how things are going to be.
There’s getting laid and then there’s getting laid not by sluts - the only kind you can hope to attract with money.
I offer a quote: “Another factor is that money, like mystic ritual and doctrine, seems to have the transcendent power to unite opposites of various kinds. The unlimited power of money to transform anything into anything may seem like a transcendent power to unite opposites. Further, one of the oppositions united by money is that between the two parties to a monetary transaction. Although monetary logos unites all things and all men, monetary purchase involves (qua monetary purchase) a historically unprecedented mutual absolute egotism: each party is seen to desire his maximum advantage to a degree beyond all other kinds of transaction (such as gift-exchange). The logos of money makes the transaction possible by uniting the opposed parties.” [Seaford, Money]
Money reducing concepts to a code, a unity of exchange (word, number, logos) essentially reduces man to nothing but bits and pieces.
Spirit (identity) lost in selective values determined by market forces…which, in turn, can be manipulated by toying with nature which is denied to all except to the shamans of economic welfare.
Money erasing blood…what family can withstand its destructive deconstructions?
All of nature, all of the past, can be erased with its symbolic power.
Stupidity no longer matters if you inherit or can buy into the system enough to become wealthy.
Ugliness, age, erased.
Sex meaningless, as a natural method…it now becomes a purchasable commodity.
It’s meaning lost in the exchange of pleasure with no connection to what pleasure is.
The logic stops here…money for the sake of money…pleasure for its own sake…materialism as its own purpose.
Man reduced to the most immediate, the superficial, the shallow - an animal state.
With the power of money, one can project object/objectives so fantastically delusional that only a child would take them seriously…and remaining child-like, infantile, becomes a virtue.
If its true that you like doing things on a whim, and you can afford to, do read this little book called ‘The Faust Myth’ by David Hawkes, its fantastic.
Here’s a quote from his other book:
""What the people of Renaissance England feared was the efficacious power of signs.
“Used as nature intended, signs designated referents beyond themselves, whether things in the real world or concepts in the mind. Understood correctly, signs provided a necessary, practical system of mediation between the subjective mind and its objective environment. The obvious danger arising from such a system is that the media of representation may come to be mistaken for the reality that they represent. Human beings have an innate tendency to fetishize signs—to mistake signs for concepts, and even for substantial things. From there it is only a small step to the illusory, and in the view of early modern people, metaphysically evil belief that signs are capable of achieving real, objective effects by working autonomously, that they can achieve a subjective agency independent of human beings.” [Hawkes, Usury in Renaissance England]
Even if you are setback by all that, its the symmetry of your spirit that a fine woman is attracted to. And those, like you and others, who cannot love themselves, need to resort to compensations like money.
There’s no difference between the PUA relying on psychological gimmicks and you and your kind relying on money - its still a gimmick.
“Magic is the attempt to do things with signs.” 
Atleast you said that, I mean even you Had to say that. I’ll just say you are only wrong if you think all problems can be solved with money and money-lent charisma.
You don’t have to rely on money. It’s like you took the “financially stable” part of my statement and just went a bit crazy there. I’ve always gotten laid and I haven’t always had lots of money.
The part about me not loving myself…that just doesn’t make any sense. If you’re gonna attack the person, at least know what the hell you’re talking about. You can read my posts for days and days and I think you’ll see plainly that I love myself more than most people do.
I think there are a few factors to these PUA people that a lot of people don’t consider, such as inability to comprehend the bigger picture, meaning everything is way too generalised to the point where reality becomes something else. I’ve always seen the PUA people to actually just struggle with themselves in relationship to life, it doesn’t really have anything to do women at all, but more to do with their lack of brain function, creativity, imagination, NOT in pursuing women but generally in their own personal life for themselves.
A man who has naturally just done his own thing, own activates, own hobbies without the focus on women usually are happily married and would be rather confused, almost baffled by all this PUA stuff. It really doesn’t take much to get laid at all especially in this time. PUA strategies are nothing more than an attempt to short circuit the natural filtration criteria of women for mere sexual satisfaction. If you think about it, they are nothing more than just zombies, sometimes they even procreate as a result of these strategies, which is even worse. A lot these men are overly sexualized due to boredom, depression etc making it near impossible to focus on self improvement, some of them develop a contempt for self improvement because they see it as “doing it for approval of women” which is not the case, it would be for themselves, and of course, women will be naturally attracted as a result.
They want things but they do not want to earn them, this applies to life generally. If they did do these things they would soon realize there are more things to enjoy in life than just women, so much more. That also applies to women just as much. These men are unaware that women go to similar extents when it comes to this PUA stuff, in fact you can even argue that they go to an extreme extent in order to gain approval from men, but it is done in a different way because male/female nature differs. With that said, using the strategies and getting laid would only postpone real self improvement. These men never last, they die off quickly, even the ones who are “successful” at using those techniques in his younger days, by the time he reaches his mid 30s he is discontent and troubled. Which is the result of the same problem he has had his whole life, which has nothing to do with women.
A good case at hand is Bruce Jenner. His anima is blooming like the rite of spring, but it’s been said his wife is a piece of work. Does this mean that at the very limit of endurance men use the well versed motto , 'if you can’t beat them join them? As a form of gaining approval? Having little to do with intelligence, but very basic expressions of the will to power?
The PUA which many are obsessed with is about flirtation, marketing, selling/buying…cost/benefit.
The seller ups the value of what he is selling, to entice the buyer…the buyer, suspicious of his ways, tries to evaluate the real value of what she is to purchase.
The boys hyper-inflate…the females try to downplay, to cynically dismiss…and so on.
A game.
Taken seriously by the base because that’s the level they exist on, and because procreation, for that period of their life, is a dominant concern.
If it is not, then the one who still wastes his/her time on it is either studying it, as a social phenomenon, or enslaved by it.
It’s why females who have already had children are always more honest and pragmatic…although not by much.
Males, still preoccupied by this, are usually males with no children (young, virgins, social losers), or effete imbeciles who have used this to accomplish the deed, and remain loyal to it, because of its success.
Self-indulgence is not self-love.
Have you ever loathed yourself and been severe with yourself for any reason? And by that I dont mean like you restricting yourself to a weed a week and being harsh with yourself… not that kind.
Please don’t make this personal guys… keep it broad.
I’ve been lackadaisically entertaining the idea of clipping a hidden camera on my shirt, while making approaches, so I can show a more efficient, natural way of conversing with females, which will abet one’s chances of acquiring a date/mate. As prior mentioned, you don’t need to use corny pickup lines, or indirect methods; beautiful women are not confronted directly in real life, as much as people seem to believe. Most guys are too cowardly or diffident to do so. It would be conducive to publish some videos, where the approachers/PUA’s aren’t mechanically reciting drivel in a desultory fashion, while the females are transfixed in a state of discomfiture.
yes they are
there are as many cocky douchebags out there are there are easily intimidated introverts.
just assume that everyone that approaches you is a cocky douchebag.
…because they are.
They are, but not as much as males tend to imagine. They are, more often, complimented and flirted with, when online via Facebook, which requires no grit or courage. Doing it in real life, face-to-face, with spontaneous charisma is a whole different animal.
“CockyD-bag?” You’re such a cutie, Phon. I just want to pinch your cheeks 