please disprove this

Life brings pain,
Pain brings fear,
Fear brings hate,
Hate brings death,
Death is food,
Food feeds life.

(Repeat steps 1 to 6)

This is the eternal six…

…All critic welcome…

I’ll buy that.

Satan rules the earth.

No, something happened to me last night…

The higher beings of earth feed off of death, were as the most stupid and unconscious beings mind their own business and do not kill then consume others.

Your trust is your weakness and your love.

You expect me to tell you the truth, you expect me to be honest with you. Why? You cannot handle lies and you try to punish liers to destroy the lies that CONTROL YOUR LIFE AND YOU CAN’T HANDLE THEM!

All have been decieved.
All are easy to consume.

The shepard of the flock is mine now.

You are under my control.

You are far to stupid to ever overcome me.

You die without my kiss.

You must kill everything around you that is against you, you must save your mortal soul or become food and power for the killer.

There are two options pitted before you, and either way, my way will be the final outcome.

The truly holy were good sources of food.

Ofcourse their non-violance made them so much easier to consume.

True christianity died long ago, and holy rome was mine for the taking.

Catholisism was my right hand at first, once this man-god died. Then the apostles were desposed of.

You pathetic scum!
You come to me to be saved.
As if you had a chance any way, each step you take is a step down a road that leads to your death.

Each time you die your soul enters into me. It’s not hard to consume such a thing, it is like burning a sheet of paper.

Whilst the worms and the fungi consume your physical body, I consume your soul. You can see my hand in all of nature. There will never be world peace or safety.

Forever there will be conflict, competition, death and loss.

All of you have made excellent food for me, and you will continue to do so.

Touch me and it will be your greatest pleasure.

Feed me and it will be your last breath.

I am your beginning and your end.

You are all mine for the taking.

Enjoy your notch in MY food chain, humans!

???

Sometimes, yes. It also brings pleasure (in as inherent a way)

Not necessarily. The fight/flight (another bullshit metaphor, I know, but I’m trying to be brief) mechanisms are very, very closely entwined.

Generally, yes

Hardly. It can be the motivation for killing, but it’s the killing that brings the death

No, it isn’t. For obvious reasons.

Well, you’ve got one thing right.

Are you sure this is true for everyone and everything? Some folks live very painless lives. Do all living creatures feel pain? Does, for example, a star-fish?

Pain brings Stocism, irritability, a desire to give into the darkness and live wickedly in the pain: spasming in pain and also laughing, I had imagined that Satan was in terrible pain all the time, even when involved in some sport.

I’ve long felt that hate is a displacement of personal inadequacy.

Evidently not.

OK.

OK.

I like this line,

No matter which way you go, you go down the road towards death. That’s good. I like it.

Peace be with you.

Oh, I get it now. Satan is posting on ILP. Cool. One of the restaurants I work in gets an occasional celebrity. John Travolta, Cal Ripken, Jr. Kirsty Ally. But nothing like this. Does hell have a website? Could you post a link?

There used to be a Hell website, years ago, that had only one page. It said “Hell”. I think it’s a band, now, or something.

Are you a dotcom or a dotorg? Dotnet?

Good post, though.

" Why is it strange? In the first place, by then I was incapable of love, for I repeat, with me loving meant tyrannising and showing my moral superiority. I have never in my life been able to imagine any other sort of love, and have nowadays come to the point of sometimes thinking that love really consists in the right – freely given by the beloved object – to tyrannise over her.

Even in my underground dreams I did not imagine love except as a struggle. I began it always with hatred and ended it with moral subjugation, and afterwards I never knew what to do with the subjugated object. And what is there to wonder at in that, since I had succeeded in so corrupting myself, since I was so out of touch with “real life,” as to have actually thought of reproaching her, and putting her to shame for having come to me to hear “fine sentiments”; and did not even guess that she had come not to hear fine sentiments, but to love me, because to a woman all reformation, all salvation from any sort of ruin, and all moral renewal is included in love and can only show itself in that form."

Notes from Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky

" Why is it strange? In the first place, by then I was incapable of love, for I repeat, with me loving meant tyrannising and showing my moral superiority. I have never in my life been able to imagine any other sort of love, and have nowadays come to the point of sometimes thinking that love really consists in the right – freely given by the beloved object – to tyrannise over her.

Even in my underground dreams I did not imagine love except as a struggle. I began it always with hatred and ended it with moral subjugation, and afterwards I never knew what to do with the subjugated object. And what is there to wonder at in that, since I had succeeded in so corrupting myself, since I was so out of touch with “real life,” as to have actually thought of reproaching her, and putting her to shame for having come to me to hear “fine sentiments”; and did not even guess that she had come not to hear fine sentiments, but to love me, because to a woman all reformation, all salvation from any sort of ruin, and all moral renewal is included in love and can only show itself in that form."

Notes from Underground - Fyodor Dostoevsky

You know, I just got done talking with a gentleman like you.

It seems, like him, you naturally channel more deamonic energies.

I don’t mean to burst your bubble but there is an army of angels that will not let Hell rule earth absolutely. Darkness is an extension of light, thus Satan is an extension of earth.

Each time you are born your soul enters into me. Your point is what Satan? You are being childish. Stop showing off.

Forever there will also be peace, cooperation, life, and gain.

Yes we know your time is comming. What can I say? Your teachings are attractive to the weak-minded. You don’t have to get all excited. Just remember, though, my children will come back to me and we will be waiting for when your time is up just like all the times before … I created you to watch over them. You are an extension of me.

  • The LightBringer

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OK FECK If this is whats on offer from the “sword of light” (plato, jesus, budda) crew
I want to switch sides

retract Dostoevsky quote!

Give me the beaded bubbles blinking at the brim (?or some such - keats I think)

Go earth!

Embrace the rich loamy soils, the colour, the infinite variety of seeming and becoming, the subtle interplay of dark and shade, the twilight and the lie - that is life

  • go satan!

Take your sword and swallow it.

  • I’ll take my chance with the big red man

Can we save ourselves from this over abundance of “protectors”?

Krossie

well… what have we here… a truism or a waste of time?

  1. Life brings pain

Life brings with it all emotions that exist… it is a precondition for all emotion (or at least it is by it’s normal definition)… so singling out a single one seems like too much of an effort to steer an argument in a specific direction not nessisarily true

  1. Pain brings fear

True enough… cuz if it didn’t hurt you one way or another… u had no reason to fear it… unless you were simply paranoid… so i guess mental conditions bring fear as well…

  1. Fear brings hate

Not always… i’m afreid of hungry sharks… i don’t perticularly HATE hungry sharks…

  1. Hate brings death

sometimes… sometimes it just makes you insult a person…

  1. Death is food

I’d turn that one around and state Food is death… not death is food… not everything that dies gets eaten… while everything that get’s eaten is nessisarily dead… or will be shortly…

  1. Food feeds life

sure… otherwise we wouldn’t consider it “food”

So what can we conclude from all of this?

absolutely nothing… a great distraction from living life this has been…

jeez

What’s this thread about anyways?

Hah. Maybe you don’t understand.

Does a farmer kill his cattle? Only at the right time.
So each cow says:
“My life is good. I have food to eat, I have a home, I have moral boundries, I have a master watching over me and protecting me.”

And then what?
They are temporary, and they mean nothing really.

A perfect example of this in your own society would be:
If the elected leader of your government makes a mastake, who pays for it? There are a hand full of people that you can never touch or control, but they can shape your life in which ever way they mannage to. There is a hierarchy on earth, and ofcourse the most greedy are at the top of it.

Your feeble moral attempts at revenge fail.
The people Jesus came to “save” killed him, and the few that he brought back to life died again. Don’t you see? He was a complete and utter failure, and the church was mine for the taking. If you only knew how much domination, lies and opression existed within my churches in those ancient times, but later on my tools shifted from religion into the corporation and the media control.

Actually, your competition with eachother is what causes your evolution.

If you supported instead of exploited the weak, your genetic strands would degrade and devolve. Mother nature did things they only way possible, imperfection and chaos brings the new, and the deformed and pathetic parts of the new are cut off by the dangers on earth.

Mad Man P,
you can disagree with this principal if you want to, it’s not specifically absolute, but I must remind you of how many species humanity has brought to extinction, whilst only advancing a select few plant and animal species to serve you better. You have done this to your world, and I have done this to you. There are a few nations on earth, with a few people at the top that I control. We are the ones making the progress, and many sacrifices must be made in the name of progress.

You’re willing to kill an animal or an entire environment [yes, look at your shrinking rain forests, for example] – but I am willing to kill you and destroy you in some way so that I can get what I want. You are all my children, and we share the same attributes and ways.

Everyone and everything is expendable.
People that you can’t hurt, don’t have to “love” you.
Isn’t that great?
Compassion and mercy are the pain you have been trained to inflict upon yourselves when you see suffering, and to make the pain stop, you help the one having the pain, don’t you? But suppose you could never hurt the gods of earth? Suppose you had no control over what was done to you, and you could never EVER find a higher meaning for any other life on earth? Ofcourse not, you are just food, the same as those you kill and eat, lower life forms are consumed by the higher life forms.

I believe Dan was going for a more Buddist view on this whereas life is defined as suffering. Someone who holds this perspective generally says they would rather not feel at all then to have to ride the rollercoaster of emotion.

I believe Dan has found the magical art of channeling. His most recent experience was obviously with a daemonic entity. See? I knew you really didn’t want to know.

Dan, you are getting in the way of your channel.

I have no time for you.

Put Satan back on the phone.

You can believe what ever you want to.

Thus you believe what is most pleasurable or reasonable to you, instead of what is most true. I see this inside all souls searching for some sort of “holy truth” to counteract the evil and meaninglessness that they can’t bring themself to accept.

Also, you may actually believe that I mean what I say.
Do I…?
Wouldn’t you like me to be honest with you?
You believe that most people who ever talk to you are actually expressing themselves, and it is not fueled by an alterior motive. Ofcourse you want honesty the same way that you want a utopia on earth, but you have neither and the most lies come from the most powerful ones that control your life.

What would you like me to say?

Honestly, Dan, it just depends on the way you look at it.

You are right. There is evil and meaninglessness, but there is also good and usefullness.

You for one reason or another decided to believe all this shit your spewing out. So you are no more important than anyone else spewing out their bullshit. The fact of the matter is: you also don’t understand.

You don’t understand that we are all empty shells that channel whatever energies we choose to and spew them out to the world around us. Stop thinking you’re important. Stop thinking you are this energy you channeled because you are not. You are also a punny, weak little human just like the rest of us. Accept that meaninglessness, bitch. :wink:

What else would you like me to believe in?