Pleasure Over Pain.

What motivates man in life?

Power to control. Power to conquer. Power over everything in order to feel pleasure. Power of self gratification.

Power of opinion. Power to subject one’s will over another. Power to manipulate things in one’s favor.

In short what motivates man in all his endeavors is the pursuit of pleasure over pain.

Everything else is but a deception or front of this quest. In all of man’s activities pleasure is the main motivation.

We are all hedonists even those who would deny themselves who describe everything as sin are in reality pleasure seekers.

What of the wise man in the pursuit of virtue? What about knowledge? They are mere charades, phantasms and masks, for what all men of wisdom really want is the pursuits of pleasure throughout existence to be their own.

Knowledge, wisdom and virtue are but mere words or phantasms. Nothing else. They are mere ends of the will to power utilized to safeguard the pursuit of pleasure.

Is not pleasure a fleeting superfluous illusion of splender that is not totally achieveable? Yes of course it is, but such a powerful superfluous feeling it is that as such we all go throughout life seeking it out viciously even for just a small taste of it before our inevitable pressing individual deaths where we come to embrace complete entire oblivion in the end of our lives.

so what of the pleasure of exporation , discovery ? devoid of power . just the pleasure of thinking and understanding

Pleasure is, pleasure.

yes

without power or viciousness

Yet life is full of conflict and viciousness all the same.

but not ALL the time

Are you so sure?

Are you so sure?
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whut?

what , what ?

whut?

sorry I asked . your response clears things up

The need for space.

Agreed.

The attainment of power leads to satisfaction which leads to new craving, a desire to fulfil another lack, to destroy another limitation; which leads to a new pursuit of Power. Or to perish and fail.
It is a never-ending cycle that returns again and again.
It is life.

What motivates us? Not power…pain and death motivates us.

Ill describe my own situation best i understand it. I hate materiaistic things. I believe focusing too much into things outside of conscious and creating too much (not saying that creating is bad, i think it’s a necessity) causes much illusion and delusion. Things i consider that can be WAY overdone are feelings, emotions, things like money, work, look as in clothing, body frame, etc. All this and more (i can sell to you for only $$$99.95!!$$$) is what messes up ego’s and lack of understanding for oneself and fellow man.

I like to focus on improving self, i tried out nihilistic, but the fact that i’m existing i can’t seem to find a reason to be fully negative, besides the human race HA…
I’m in high school right now. I like to gain knowledge to gain wisedom to understand, it is one of the only things that satisfies me, ignorance isn’t bliss, it’s an delusion. Another thing i like to do is fitness and parkour because it is basically beating back the physical restrictions i have, giving a physical freedom. In the beginning the movements seemed to extreme, but once i gained skill i realized that all the limits were just assumed. And your limits and standards of moving just get more and more "difficult.

But still after all this i’m still down, i don’t know what depressed is. But i say i’m content in my mysery

I agree with Aidan. Pain and death motivates humanity above all things first and foremost, because they come before pleasure.

How is a baby born into the world? Birth sounds pretty painful…

After that, our most base motivation is not to die. The result of that, is pleasure, but not always.

what if one does not crave power . power gives me no pleasure at all

people try to avoid pain as much as possible and try to achieve as much if not more pleasure.

You’re a very stupid man to believe pleasure can overcome pain.