“So you think you can tell heaven from hell?” - Pink Floyd
Ichthus77:
Compassion?
Smoke & mirrors, dude. Compassion is not sweeping human beings & using those same human beings to push your lie on people.
K: So, to recap, you are against compassion, against trying to remove
poverty from the world, against cleaning the world up, against helping
people in general?.. that seems to be your position… No, wonder
you bring up Hitler… a psychopath after your own heart…
Kropotkin
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I’m saying that people pushing this narrative while they sweep homeless people show their narrative to be a lie. They want to make homeless people disappear the way Hitler wanted to make Jewish people disappear. They don’t want to deal with the real reason behind poverty because they would have to deal with the “man in the mirror”.
Why does this feel like that other conversation I was having with Carleas and felix dakat?
Peace out.
I’d say that this is a clear example of projection. What is in your mind is not in mine. I engage with people, and when I look at their problems, I discover that it is systemic.
That is why I described the alleviation process as a systemic process.
Probably because most people would respond to your comments in the same way - except perhaps for sociopaths who agree that the Palestinina mother who is killed whilst trying to feed her child has herself to blame for being where she is.
If you’re going to work with the actual people who say the same things you’re saying, you’re going to be working with people who sweep homeless people. Good luck with that.
It’s odd that you criticise but rarely engage with what I write. You barely read it, but always have a comment. Usually it is negative, critical, and claims that there is an underlying agenda at hand, but not what I have actually said.
Sometimes I think you are playing a game: How to appear to be the most despicable person on the forum. You do seem to do everything to achieve that.
Louder for the people in the best seats:
I understand why some people might feel this way. Many communities have been left out of the decision-making process, and it’s frustrating when solutions are proposed that seem to not fully understand or address the daily issues people face continually. They are restricted in their view by the pressing problems that affect them each day and have little time for the wider issues.
What’s crucial is that the voices of those directly affected are at the centre of any solution. We need approaches that are driven by the needs and insights of the communities themselves, ensuring that any action taken is genuinely beneficial and not just serving outside interests. This is where lobbyists tend to have a louder voice than the people facing the issues, which means that in the past, some initiatives were more about profit than about people. That’s why it’s vital to push for transparency and to hold organisations and governments accountable to ensure that the focus remains on creating real, positive change for the communities involved.
Linking poverty with climate change is necessary to ensure that solutions address the root causes of both issues and to raise awareness that the poorest communities are often the hardest hit by climate-related problems. It’s about finding ways to protect and uplift these communities, not exploit them. Rather than reducing everything to abstract narratives, the emphasis should be on tangible actions that improve lives. Whether it’s improving access to education, healthcare, or sustainable jobs, the real measure of success is in the lived experiences of the people these efforts aim to help.
You could speak more about what you think would make a difference on the ground. What do you see as the most pressing issues, and how do you think they can be addressed in a way that truly benefits the community?
Mere words. The voices are swept away. Stop sweeping them away and actually listen to all the surveys they already submitted. Taxpayer money was spent on those surveys. Mere technical formalities to push your agenda.
Source? Or are you just sweeping away issues?
Every point-in-time count, and every survey like this:
Instead of using these surveys to pinpoint where to sweep… try increasing income-based housing inventory?? It ain’t rocket surgery.
USA
Several programs similar to the No Place Like Home (NPLH) initiative exist, aiming to provide housing and support services to vulnerable populations. These programs align with various Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) by addressing issues such as poverty, health, and sustainable cities. Here are some examples:
- Housing First Programs: These initiatives prioritize providing permanent housing to homeless individuals without preconditions such as sobriety or treatment compliance. They align with SDG 1 (No Poverty) and SDG 11 (Sustainable Cities and Communities) by addressing homelessness and promoting inclusive urban environments.
- Supportive Housing Initiatives: Similar to NPLH, supportive housing programs provide affordable housing combined with supportive services for individuals with mental health issues, disabilities, or those experiencing chronic homelessness. These initiatives contribute to SDG 3 (Good Health and Well-being) by improving access to health services and SDG 10 (Reduced Inequalities) by supporting marginalized groups.
- Community Development Block Grants (CDBG): Administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), CDBG funds local governments to develop viable urban communities by providing decent housing and a suitable living environment. This aligns with SDG 11 by fostering sustainable urban development.
- Continuum of Care (CoC) Programs: These programs promote community-wide commitment to ending homelessness by providing funding for efforts to quickly rehouse homeless individuals and families. CoC programs support SDG 1 and SDG 11 by addressing poverty and promoting sustainable communities.
These programs fit within the framework of the SDGs by addressing the root causes of homelessness and poverty, improving access to essential services, and promoting sustainable and inclusive urban development. They demonstrate the interconnectedness of housing stability, health, and social inclusion in achieving broader sustainable development objectives.
Europe
In Europe, there are several programs similar to the No Place Like Home initiative, focusing on providing housing and support to vulnerable populations. These programs align with the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) by addressing issues such as poverty, health, and sustainable cities.
Housing First Europe: This initiative promotes the Housing First model across Europe, which provides immediate access to permanent housing for homeless individuals, particularly those with complex needs, without preconditions such as sobriety or treatment compliance. The Housing First Europe Hub, established in 2016, works with over 45 organizations to end and prevent homelessness through advocacy, training, and research. This program aligns with SDG 1 (No Poverty) and SDG 11 (Sustainable Cities and Communities) by providing stable housing and promoting inclusive urban environments.
European Affordable Housing Consortium (SHAPE-EU): This program supports the renovation and development of social and affordable housing across Europe. It focuses on energy efficiency, smart technologies, and community involvement, contributing to SDG 11 by fostering sustainable and inclusive urban development. The consortium aims to boost investment and collaboration with local authorities to improve the affordability and livability of housing.
Permanent Supportive Housing: Programs like Housing First and Pathways to Housing in Europe provide permanent supportive housing to improve housing stability for vulnerable populations. These programs have been shown to increase long-term housing stability and improve the quality of life for participants, aligning with SDG 3 (Good Health and Well-being) and SDG 10 (Reduced Inequalities) by supporting marginalized groups and improving access to essential services.
These programs demonstrate the interconnectedness of housing stability, health, and social inclusion in achieving broader sustainable development objectives. They provide crucial support to vulnerable populations, helping to address root causes of homelessness and improve overall quality of life.
Developing Countries
In developing countries, there are several programs similar to the No Place Like Home initiative that focus on providing affordable housing and support services to vulnerable populations. These programs often align with the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), particularly SDG 11, which aims to make cities inclusive, safe, resilient, and sustainable. Here are some examples:
Participatory Slum Upgrading Programme (PSUP): Launched by the African, Caribbean, and Pacific (ACP) Secretariat, the European Commission, and UN-Habitat, this program addresses urban poverty and improves the lives of slum dwellers. It is currently being implemented in 35 ACP states and focuses on upgrading slums through community participation and local government collaboration.
Building Assets, Unlocking Access: This project has helped over 150,000 people by providing reliable and not-for-profit financing for affordable housing. It focuses on improving living conditions for the poorest populations who spend most of their income on housing improvements.
ShelterTech Accelerator Program in Kenya: This initiative seeks to identify and support startups and companies that provide shelter products and services to low-income households. It aims to address the housing deficit in Kenya by supporting innovative solutions in the housing sector.
National Movement for One Million Houses in Indonesia: This government initiative aims to improve coordination and collaboration among local stakeholders in housing development. It focuses on increasing the accessibility of long-term housing and refining the housing finance system.
Affordable Housing Policies in India: The Indian government has launched various initiatives to develop low-cost and affordable housing for economically weaker sections. The Public-Private Partnership (PPP) model is often used to develop these properties, addressing the significant urban housing deficit.
These programs demonstrate a commitment to addressing housing challenges in developing countries by providing affordable housing solutions and improving living conditions for vulnerable populations. They contribute to the SDGs by promoting sustainable urban development and reducing inequalities.
Mmhmm. And?
Those programs you listed do not work longterm without housing inventory, so. Reread the quote.
Here are more ideas:
Of course, their long-term success heavily depends on adequate and affordable housing inventory availability. Housing is a cornerstone that supports economic stability, education, healthcare, climate resilience, and overall community well-being. Without addressing housing shortages, the effectiveness of these programs is likely to be compromised, making it essential to integrate housing development into any comprehensive strategy for reducing poverty and promoting sustainable development. But it isn’t as though nothing is being done.
Efforts to make programs sustainable focus on integrating housing with essential services, leveraging partnerships, using innovative financing models, enacting supportive policies, building resilient and green housing, involving communities in planning, and ensuring continuous monitoring and improvement. By addressing both the immediate needs and long-term challenges of housing and poverty, these strategies aim to create durable, equitable solutions that benefit vulnerable populations for years to come.
The Housing First Approach prioritises providing permanent housing to homeless individuals without preconditions (like employment or sobriety). Once housed, individuals can then access other services to help them stabilise and improve their lives, making the program more sustainable. Strengthening tenant rights, such as rent control, eviction protections, and access to legal support, helps prevent displacement and ensures that existing housing remains affordable.
Tax incentives, subsidies, and grants are being used to encourage private developers to build affordable housing, integrate sustainable practices, and contribute to the social infrastructure of communities. Community Land Trusts (CLTs) are non-profit organisations that own land and lease it to low-income families at affordable rates. By removing land from the speculative market, CLTs help ensure long-term affordability and community control over housing resources.
In areas vulnerable to climate change, new housing developments are being designed to withstand extreme weather events, reducing the risk of displacement and ensuring the longevity of housing infrastructure. Local leaders are being trained to advocate for their communities, ensuring that initiatives are grounded in local realities and can be sustained by the community. However, we need collaboration across sectors (government, private sector, non-profits) to ensure that the diverse challenges of poverty and housing are addressed in a coordinated and holistic manner, increasing the likelihood of long-term success.
We need quick, cheap short-term solutions until folks are housed & not swept. Shift sweeps funding to that. Humans are a higher priority than green profit.
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Hopefully it isn’t to line green profit pockets, fund sweeps, and similar garbage.
How are they going to stem rising rents? How decrease them? If taxpayer money goes to pay the difference between what folks can afford, and what greedy landlords are charging, that’s crap.
It is already illegal to hike prices in an emergency. Enforce it. It should also be illegal to artificially keep the inventory emergency-level low so demand profits stay high.
Profits over people? That’s decay, not growth.
Poverty Alleviation Measures:
Work more hours
Spend less money
Save more money
Repeat until no longer poor. Easy.