private hells

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This forum is to elucidate the psychological bugs, which are indicative of subtleties other people can pile on us. For instance, the very intricate(or otherwise) ----trashing of people gotten at the expense of others in social interaction,

 Personal, honest anecdotes are welcome:

In tribal situations, the loss of soul is exploited by others even to the expense of sacrificial, to serve others’ needs. Through this process, the weight of the value of individual conformity is assured by way of threats through subliminal per communal demonstration, and simultaneously, a veiled, but ambiguously appearant singular demonstration of shamefulness.

 The only way to deal with this socially reductive process, which incidentally, also serves as a  tool of social control, is  through exploitation, through de-masking.

  In cases of social insecurity/anxiety/masking, an emerging loss of soul does not serve as  any limit to this undertaking.  

 The only solution is not displaying either ignorance, or a show of ignorance, but a projection of an apparent cognitive ability to re-arrange the perceptions into a kind of opaqueness, a detachment from the forms of reified taboo.(Stigma)

 Now this demonstration of verbal overindulgence, begs the reader's understanding, and does not elicit any suggestions as far  as the accuracy of the conceptual schema, (which are sometimes loosely used) but is looking for approximations into general, formal patterns and insights.

Or: bracket, contain, limit socio/psychological self preception within acceptable norms.: and use these “samples” as jumping off points. In various groups for purposes of identification, and level of relatedness.

Specifically, as relates to the ongoing develpment of social phobias, with an embededness occuring below a certain cut-off point. This cut off point may be intergenerational.

This is a case where social dynamics such as sensory/cognitive relations may come into play, as for instance between process/memory interaction in groups.

A good example of an expanded dynamic, is why a capitalistic social paradimn works better than a socialistic (distinguished from a communistic) one.

In the case of communism, where production with the kind of “machine” as mentioned by d63 is built up, the agression is contained and directed toward authority.

In capitalistic (democracy), the battlefield is not projected to ideas of authority, but dispersed via Koehler-type phenomenology. ((Psychology of vision) gestalt.

The gestalt bounderies’ containment of material unavailaable to common consumption, bult on embedded material, led to the ebandonment of psychoanalysis, because even the symolic stuff coming up in dreams is inadequitely open to interpetation.

So if this process is to be applied to a common field including alienation, in both children and adults, in various possible embedded onsets, (real and imagined): by way of propholexis—what new methodology in learning. Could be implemented?

Note: if any part of this is confusing, I would be happy to change things, or re-write.

In summary: there may exist an anthropologicaly based relation in social psychology, which now, in this newly arrrived information age, is beginning to show more and more relevance in terms of applicality, rshifting away from a political to an informational relevancy.

Any takes on this?.

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I guess we are all in our own private heaven and private hell Obe, and we have to make of them what we will.

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 MagsJ; You are right.  But between Heaven and Hell, and betwixt them a third way.
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In say a private academy where every student’s tuition is paid in advanced for several years, then nihilism could be taught, then untaught, maybe two years for each stage. And the intellectual equivalent of a traditional education would be inherent by default and more so. I guess the ideal age to start would be eighteen. The problem of course being that to teach nihilism means to be responsible for that nihilism in a way that goes beyond the average socially adequate person who unknowingly creates nihilism through ignoring or abandoning much of the socially inadequate in society.

But, to be honest I only partially understood you, which I appreciate. Rather than trying to follow a long convoluted argument, that really takes more patience than ability to do complex thinking, arguments which are rampant on philosophical forums (and I write as well), reading your philosophical posts leaves me realizing on surface level that there is nothing that must be followed, or particular interpretation to be met, but that much use can be had from it upon multiple readings, use which is often obtained in the substratum, between the writer and reader.

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obe

An almost perfect flow between heaven and contentment is needed - in other words, a nice balance between the desire for pleasure and hedonism and to keep in check what is between rare and meaningful.
I find that a “stitch in time [does] save nine”.
Being aware of our loose threads, cutting or mending the cloth which we are helps before the fall into hell.

Between heaven and hell is perception, attitude and movement.

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Arcturus, stuart

It is likely that the in between of hedonism and pleasure, is as described a sort of process where you have to connect the dots. It was a common theme dealing with the Acid(LSD) experience which made worlds such as mapped by rimbaud (with his various experiences) and extended by Huxles Laing and others dealing with mind expansion. The fact is, and this is a common description within the ILP community is the idea of the gap laying on a continuum on this foundative/cognitive affect. The significance of this idea is that the gap may be described in various ways, one of which is the application of boundaries to represent the degree of differentiation of the cognitive foundation fro it’s affective and effective determinants. The hell would be a zizakian miniminization of this gap, where there would occur in appearance almost a de differentiation of the elements into a simulacrum of unity. This is what went wrong with the so called new left. The new left intellectuals were able to sustain a bird’s eyed view , and aesthetic distance, whereas, the other’s got lost in a frog’s view.

The cognitive map of heaven broke off finally from the effective maze of hell.

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 This doesen't look all that bad!