You have looked inside of me, oh Lord
and you know me better than I know myself
You know when I sit and when I rise
you perceive my thoughts from afar
You judge my going and my coming
and are familiar with all of my ways
Before a word is on my tongue
You, Lord, know it completely
You fence me in behind and before
and you lay your hand upon my soul
such knowledge is too wonderful for me
Too lofty for me to attain
Whither can I go away from your spirit?
How impossible is it to flee from your presence?
If I go to the heavens above, you are there
and if I make my bed in the depths of my self; you are there
If I rise on the wings of the rising sun
if I settle on the far side of the seas
Even there and then your hand will guide me
Your right hand holds me tight and close
If I were to change and accept darkness as if to hide from you
and things of light become dark to me; bringing pain
Even the darkness will not be dark for you
the night will shine like the day
for nothing can hide from the sight of you
You created me in your image
you knit me together within my mother’s womb
I praise you as I know fearfully I was wonderfully made
your works are wonderful and glorious
I know that full well
My frame was not hidden from you
When I was made in that secret place
When I was wove together out of the depths of the Earth
Your eyes witness my unformed body
All the days of my life were written for me in your book
before a single one ever came to be
How preciously I treasure your thoughts, oh Lord
How vast is the sum and wisdom of them
Were I to count them they would outnumber the grains of sand on a beach
and all of the stars within the night sky
When I awake, I am still with you.
If only you, Lord, would convert the wicked
Into your followers, you, who are most majestic
They speak of you with evil intent
and misuse your name; tarnish and drag low
Do I not love even those who hate you, Oh Lord?
As they abhor you and are in rebellion of you?
I have nothing but love for them
as they make themselves mine enemies
Search me, God; and know my heart
Test me and know my anxious thoughts
See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me with your everlasting grace
If you were to pay attention and actually were knowledgeable, you would note that I have changed each of these in subtle ways; some not so subtle. But no, I am just posting these here to share with whomever comes by. Did you have some take on these or a point to make about what I have shared?
I paid attention to the fact that you made 3 threads and just posted a bible verse in each one. Your statement about whether I’m knowledgeable is ridiculous.
Yes, and this is religion and spirituality. I need do no more than post. You claim me to be ridiculous, but asked what my take was on these when my take was posted in these threads as these bible verses; different in subtle to not-so-subtle ways from the verses as they appear within the bible; to which I have said that if you were knowledgeable, you would not have had to ask. You asked what my point was as if my point hasn’t already been made clear in many ways outside of these posts.
I forgive your transgressions against me and your pettiness that causes you to post such foolishness in response to me, for you do so from a darkened state of mind to which the light of God becomes painful and yet he sees you clearly for the darkness is as light to him and his sight pierces it as surely as his words would pierce your heart and soul. This particular verse should hold great meaning for you.
This man was praying to God for a purpose that did not befit those things.
If only you, God, would slay the wicked!
Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty!
20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.
21 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.
23 Search me, God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.
This man is not a good example of what a Good Christian or believer in God should be. The bible teaches not to be hateful and yet this man beseeches God to act on his hate.
The changes I make would be more than welcome by any loving and open-minded person. If anyone were to disagree with the changes I have made then they are close-minded and narrow.
If you wanted to do the same to the scriptures as I have, then why should you not as long as it suits better the spirit of the word. These are not good questions to be asking. When you are true and right with your self, you will not need to ask those questions, for you will understand the how and the when and the why.
I did not make any of the changes I made lightly, for to change something as old as that lightly or in error of the spirit of what should be there would be an act of hate against all that is Holy and Right. It’s a simple matter of practicing what you preach and showing a better way than what has previously been presented.
How did you decide that the man was a good example? That’s what I’m asking. I don’t mind if I look foolish to people who can’t make sense and use cryptic language to hide the inconclusiveness of their ideas.
Again…do you have anything to offer here other than a statement of your righteousness or personal attacks on people?
There are tons of stories in the bible that serve as lessons to the reader; this was one of them. This lesson was that this man cried to God to smite his enemies and wonder why God would not. That by itself is a great lesson, for it shows God to be wiser than this man. However, when you break it down story by story as someone reads the bible, the imprint they get is that this story is a way to live life; that you should pray for God to smite your enemies. At the point of sounding ridiculously stupid, I want to posit a theory:
Current generations would not know of any evil if not for someone teaching them. They would have grown up loving and caring individuals all working for the greater good and getting along with each other; they’d have been able to over look the small things to focus on community. If past generations could get together to rewrite history with a bunch of good and noble things; it would be a lie of history, for sure; but wouldn’t that lie serve the greater good in eradicating evil?
When people are so infused with good things, would they not naturally reinforce them in themselves and each other if anyone should slip?
The entire point is this: the world is the way it is because refuse to give up their stupid bullshit and submit to peace and love. I have given no personal attacks on anyone. I have been attacked time and again and my underlying message for any theory that you or anyone else pushes forth is: how can you know anything at all about the universe or posit any working theory of said universe if you don’t even know your self in full. Yeah, I’m going to point things out in you. Yeah, when you aggravated me, I swore at you and insulted you because you pissed me off. That was entirely reasonable.
We’re done with this conversation because the questions you ask have answers that are painfully obvious to a lot of other people here that you just don’t think are as smart as you. You’re just going to continue on this strain and you’re only going to hurt your self. It seems as if you’re trying to piss me off, because nobody is that stupid unless they’re entirely unsure of themselves. Now, are you just stupid? Or unsure and insecure? If you were being true to your self and what was right, these questions you ask would not need to be asked.
You are the one wanting to personally attack me because YOU can’t move on from the past. That is not my fault; I have already forgiven you and freed myself. Get out of my thread and quit wasting my time before I call a mod in.
Peace and love are generally uncommon and unnatural.
No animal is at peace fully. They suffer, they long for things, and they would get eaten if they love all other animals etc.
Existence is parasitism at this level. It’s not divine, that’s for sure.
Also what makes you sure that so many people are even worthy of love?
Love can be abused and manipulated to no end.
It can make strong people weak inside.
…yeah. Where do you think we’re headed from that? Of course love can have that done to it; but it won’t be able to after this current age; because all of those loving people are going to be made stronger.
Why the fuck aren’t you thinking of these things instead of sitting here fighting with me over this crap that I already know? I’m going to get fucking pissed at you because you don’t know what true strength is and you lack common sense in your own thoughts. You don’t want to, is the bottom line. It’s not that we can’t have this; there’s just too many people who refuse to move on into the fucking future. And it’s bullshit, because that is what the future is going to be whether any of you like it or not. And you can fight until the very end, but it’s not going to end well for you because all of the peaceful and loving people are eventually just going to kill all of you who don’t want to move into the future just so they can. And they will be strong enough to do so and retain their love and teach it to the brand new start of an entirely different way of life for a brand new species of humanity: one without divisions and labels. One without this crap where people can’t enjoy their lives.
And you ask me what makes me so certain that all people deserve to be loved… Why don’t you make some mistakes in your life and actually live and gain understanding of these things instead of sitting here and asking me such a stupid question that I have already answered multiple times throughout this forum. I’m not going to repeat myself again. You people need to quit being jackasses.
Yeah, you heard me. It will be because people like you won’t give them any other option. And, they’ll be wise to any corruption or deceit or anything of that sort and they will be on the watch for it and teach their children properly and there will not be a single person getting away with a single thing they should not be. It’s not rocket science, Dan. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that eventually there comes a breaking point where enough is just enough.
The whole loving people killing the unloving people thing is self contradictory.
Also human love is different than god love and animal love etc.
The loving people of today want to give to charities here and there, and some become public speakers, or nurses, or something.
You’re talking about holy crusader crap, towards me even. I’m not going to brag, but for years all my spare money has been going to charity. I also try to visit and phone my family when I can, to cover that aspect as well. I would love to see global change. I have big doubts about you being any sort of humanitarian. Especially with homocidal nonsense that you are now saying.
The sane choice is to take care of some humans or animals in some way, and that is all you can do, the best you can do. You can’t kill everyone that wants to be a certain way and doesn’t conform to your standards.
You talk big but you’ve got a strangled categorization of the world and the future. I’ve heard bigger better words coming from kids at school.