In the news, a child was caught with drugs by his father. So the teen was punished by being forced to wear a sandwitch board saying he did drugs. I think the question was raised that the child was being punished with cruel and unusual punishment.
I think the sign should have read, “I am unsaticified with life and drugs are ever more appealing to me. Please help me.” At least truth in advertisement would be protected.
Well, we all should know that there is a difference between supression and solution.
There’s a difference between improving someone and punishing someone. 
In punishment,… when it’s a battle of the wills, a father must sometimes punish a child so that the suffering would be associated with the fruits of the wrong they have done. If a child wants to learn for himself, then what is the point of the parent. If the child and parent have a relationship where the father motivates the child with positive and negative reinforcement, then being able to reason with the child would come secondarily of being able to live vicariously through the child,… as a form of understanding a child from free time spent relating to the child.
The way I see it corperations suck up all the free time with two income families becomming the norm,… so ignorant people expect schools and TV to pick up the slack.
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The world is very hard for kids these days. Not enough people care about them, and they have the least power to do anything. Parents are usually overprotective and are constantly telling their kids what not to do instead of bothering to get them to realize for themselves what’s right and what’s wrong.
Punishment will never really help kids. Sure, it might prevent them from doing what you don’t want them to do, but they won’t be genuine about it. Who wants that?! It’s sickening to watch parents punish their kids and then tell them that they do it because they love them.
I don’t remember ever being punished. I was never grounded, seldom yelled at, nothing. And somehow, I managed to not be a drug adict vandalist.
Instead, you come to a philosophy board to look for some grounding, eh?
I got caught with pot when I was 19 by my mom who proceeded to burn all 12 ounces of in on the grill outside. What I learned was, if your mom finds 12 ounces of pot. Punch her in the face and run away with it.
Why do people like to act like someone else’s guilty conscience?
Weird ambition, kind of like a cop…!
Punishment is about paranoia. Michael Moore’s new movie Sicko put it really well, if you think about it: there’s two main tools you can use to control people. You can make them afraid and you can keep them demoralized.
It’s easier to keep a group of afraid, sick, and uneducated people from contesting your power claim than it is to repress a crowd of confident, healthy and educated people.
Really, the question isn’t about authority. Health is the primary issue here. Drugs are healthy, if taken in the right doses at the right time. The question of abuse, of the addict-- the emaciated body, the glassy plastic skin, the fear of becoming trapped, of being touched by the darkness, by these ‘lost souls’-- is this: why do we pity them instead of healing them?
Why do we want to judge and punish, to be their (our own!) guilty conscience… when we could forget all that nonsense, and just help them get better?
But would this sign not state that drugs are the solution to problems? Isn’t that against the whole point of it, you want the kid to feel guilty for having it not redeemed for needing it.
my mom was the type of Christian to take something away she felt was bad. Every time she took something away it left a void. I never understood why they were wrong. I never understood what I was supposed to do. As I was explorring, I did sneak into things, and stole to compensate for the void. But this was a form of rebellion into witch I used self gratification to temporarily distract me from discontentness. Discontentness of school life, and bordem at home.
As a teen I explored all sorts of philosphies to substanciate my desires, but as an adult I have went back to how I was raised.
Now I think a good parent has many roles. First and formost is to give your child the love and attention they need. Otherwize they’ll seek love and attention through peers witch means ignorant means. IE seeking acceptance (or definning yourself) by the way you dress. Nothing is more superficial and full of false promice as such as an image can be. This dependence on image is how the “poser” came about. But the desire to be something your not just goes to show how truth of finding yourself is second to getting attention of bolsterious and flashy images.
Secondly you need to help the child explore his motivations and encorage them to excell at what they are good at.
You need to give your child a sence of reasoning in order to get through life.
You need to give your child an example of marital love,… for this is the biggest comparison factor toward finding love, and living love yourself. The idea that Male nanies are the moderen father for single moms is a half a$sed compensation for the faults of the parents. Why not just train teachers how to raise the kids for duel income families that come home mentally drained. The bond of blood has never been proven anyways.
The funny thing is, if you depend on drugs to add to your life, then that is the very basis for all addictions. Drugs do something for you that you cannot do yourself. So if you were content without drugs, then you’d be that much less likely to become addicted.
But even pot is physically addictive just the same as ciggerrettes. When you have built a tolerance, it becomes an addiction of, “out of site out of mind.” But ask any pot head to quit then smoke in front of them. They won’t be able to pass it up.
Physical addictions, that after you build a tolerance, if you quit cold turkey the drugs affect you physically… These adictions have very dramatic adaptations, and aren’t so subliminal in the way they alter your brain chemistery.
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As for people acting like cops??? I’ve seen the most liberalist people use falsities to manipulate the public.
Every time someone kills themselves people think they can baby proof the world with laws and rules. It’s so much easier then trying to teach people how not to kill themselves.
The conclusions you come to after going through hurt, is that avoidance is better. Yet you want to learn for yourself. I’d say to you, learn to take advice from your elders.
good cop
bad cop
Tell your kid that they did wrong. If they cannot reason yet, then allow them to associate pain with the fruits of the wrongs they did.
Develope a repore with your child and offer dirrection and alternatives to the wrong they did.