Q: What does it mean to be fully enlightened?

A: That in addition to being aware of what’s impossible, you also possess the entire spiritual knowledge. What do I mean by ‘the entire spiritual knowledge’? Well, it’s possessed by he who understands the whole of Thus Spoke Zarathustra completely in-depth.

please define enlightenment further.

to be fully enlightened is… well… to be similar to god.

full spiritual enlightenment… who knows.

full intelectual enlightenment. who knows

all around enlightenment… i .e omnicience = god

Looking at it from the European Enlightenment period, I see enlightenment as a reaching of rational thinking. “Dare to think for yourself.”- Kant

philosophy.eserver.org/kant/what … enment.txt
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A short excerpt from Immanuel Kant’s An Answer to the Question: "What is Enlightenment?

Enlightenment ist waking up …

ON WAKING UP - Anthony de Mello

Spirituality means waking up. Most people, even though they don’t know it,
are asleep. They’re born asleep, they live asleep, they marry in their
sleep, they breed children in their sleep, they die in their sleep without
ever waking up. They never understand the loveliness and the beauty of
this thing that we call human existence. You know, all mystics -Catholic,
Christian, non-Christian, no matter what their theology, no matter what
their religion – are unanimous on one thing: that all is well, all is
well. Though everything is a mess, all is well. Strange paradox, to be
sure. But, tragically, most people never get to see that all is well
because they are asleep. They are having a nightmare.

Last year on Spanish television I heard a story about this gentleman who
knocks on his son’s door. “Jaime,” he says, “wake up!” Jaime answers, “I
don’t want to get up, Papa.” The father shouts, “Get up, you have to go to
school.” Jaime says, “I don’t want to go to school.” “Why not?” asks the
father. “Three reasons,” says Jaime. “First, because it’s so dull;
second, the kids tease me; and third, I hate school.” And the father says,
“Well, I am going to give you three reasons why you must go to school.
First, because it is your duty; second, because you are forty-five years
old, and third, because you are the headmaster.” Wake up, wake up! You’ve
grown up. You’re too big to be asleep. Wake up! Stop playing with your toys.

Most people tell you they want to get out of kindergarten, but don’t
believe them. Don’t believe them! All they want you to do is to mend their
broken toys. “Give me back my wife. Give me back my job. Give me back my
money. Give me back my reputation, my success.” This is what they want;
they want their toys replaced. That’s all. Even the best psychologist
will tell you that, that people don’t really want to be cured. What they
want is relief; a cure is painful.

Waking up is unpleasant, you know. You are nice and comfortable in bed.
It’s irritating to be woken up. That’s the reason the wise guru will not
attempt to wake people up. I hope I’m going to be wise here and make no
attempt whatsoever to wake you up if you are asleep. It is really none of
my business, even though I say to you at times, “Wake up!” My business is
to do my thing, to dance my dance. If you profit from it, fine; if you
don’t, too bad! As the Arabs say, “The nature of rain is the same, but it
makes thorns grow in the marshes and flowers in the gardens.”

Shalom

Good post, Bob! :sunglasses:

I think you need to wake up from your dream and realise that all is not well.

BTW awareness and enlightenment are two different things - and often the one doesn’t lead to the other.

BTW
a·ware
–adjective

  1. having knowledge; conscious; cognizant: aware of danger.
  2. informed; alert; knowledgeable; sophisticated: She is one of the most politically aware young women around.
    —Synonyms
    1.mindful. See concious

en·light·en
tr.v. en·light·ened, en·light·en·ing, en·light·ens
1.To give spiritual or intellectual insight to
2.To give information to; inform or instruct.
—Synonyms
1.informed, aware, broad-minded, civilized, cultivated, educated, hip to*, instructed, knowledgeable, learned, liberal, literate, open-minded, plugged in*, reasonable, refined, savvy, sharp, sophisticated, tuned in*, wised up*
2.aware, abreast, advised, apprised of, clued in*, conversant, enlightened, familiarized, familiar with, informed, in the know*, versed in

swibble glibble!

if enlightenment is to be informed etc, then how can we ever be fully enlightened i.e. we can never be fully informed/instructed/knowledgeable until all things have passed.

in other words; because there is always new stuff we cannot arrive at knowing all.

secondly. if knowing all is to be enlightened then a computer with all the worlds knowledge in its memory is enlightened.

…but is it wise?

conclusion; knowledge is not enlightenment.

…but to be enlightened one must understand what that means, so enlightenment is only gained via knowledge.

Awareness means noticing what’s going on. Enlightenment is understanding it all.

ketchup and katsup… when arguing against a certain concept , it is best to deal with the concept instead of trying to say that the concept doesn’t exist via semantics.

We may never be fully enlightened. But question “thought”. It will create concepts that will trap you in a prison. A full and free flow of life will be hindered.
Thought has created god and gods, nations, envy, fear, patriotism, race, and many other evil.
Question everything become aware become enlightened become free.

Enlightenment is the realization of who we are.

The ultimate metaphysical epiphany.

I agree