Qualia >is< ether/spirit

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Qualia >is< ether/spirit

reality is originless:
As infinity is the furthest extent of what reality can be, and is limitless, I can have no beginnings nor endings. Time is relative to things, hence infinity ‘has’ and is eternal time.

The circle of reality. [where all realities are equivalent i.e. equally real]

Beginning of eternal circle: >>> Emptiness/infinity - mind [being] - perception/visualisation – internal and/or external seeing [with eyes or mind] – which connects to, correlates, and communes with qualia – which connects to, correlates, and communes with internal and/or external world [colour to light] <<< end of circle.

Scale for qualities of universal light:
moves from; Transparent light to white light qualia at the other end of the scale of ‘reals’, with the rainbow of colour qualia betwixt.

means; colour qualia [1], physical light [2] and mind [3][with perception as its expression] are the three fundamentals here. Each are correlative, communicative, reflective [can record or otherwise copy] and in communion. All three are elements of, and expressions of reality entire [infinity [?]].

levels of light/spirit [and there may be more to add as yet];

internal perspective reality = IPR. External perspective reality = EPR…

transparency [the impersonal] [the formless] IPR – conceptual and visual thinking IPR [ability to mirror visual and other derivative EPR informations from regions or perspectives of reality] - dreams IPR – world vision EPR – hallucinations and visions + deification IPR - ?

as I am a male of the species I have only gone and left out the emotional side of it all. We should note it is very important as it relates to and are expressions of ‘being’. I would go so far to say that being >is< the base and fundamental of emotion.

I feel we should see this whole thing as like a scale, going from transparent to ‘full’ [where all things are essential empty]. I would also go so far as to say that, the fullest level is also completion! That is; completion of e.g. the evolution of ‘you’ or the collective experiencer as a living emotion based entity or being. It is a purpose of life, to stretch and expand [neuronal freedom baby! Or otherwise known as life-yoga] what we are until we are complete, and each life expands us a little more towards that.
…and go where no one has gone before :mrgreen:

as we advance the road rises with us and the spirit is increased, as if like a dimmer switch on a light. In the greater scheme of things, a living being cannot reduce or be reduced – go backwards. The journey carves and sculpts the final look of the statue.
If for example you were given a tablet that changes you genetically into say a snake, then although ‘you’ would then be that snake [until another change or death occurs], the soul or cavity sculpted by the journey remains the same. It is not possible ultimately to go backwards, this because what is carved cannot be un-carved.

A belief;
Why is reality like this? …because reality can be anything, and ‘she’ wants to populate her worlds with her family! …bitch! :stuck_out_tongue: . Oh and I expect ‘he’ does too. This desire >is< the fabric of reality ~ what gives things substance and the primal force.

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Explain emotion.

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^^ expression of ‘being’ as relative to input [internal or external].

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How is emotion something that can be inputted?

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I mean that emotion reacts and responds to the given input ~ think of it like clay, then input from the senses and mind/consciousness are the hands that mould the clay.

  • not really the main thrust of the thread tho.
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Yes, this is good. For emotions, don’t forget to add that emotions are planes of immanence, Gestalts, irreducibles. This is how they are able to help us gain direct and “non-derivable” access to phenomenal existence.

The self is very much a strange knot of “emotions”. Of course an emotion can also be defined as a chemical combination-process producing various responses and effects on consciousness aspects. And that too is correct.

I’d like a rigorous definition of qualia for this topic. How do you understand/think about what qualia is, ontologically speaking?

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That question does not have to be asked. ‘Reality’ would become an intellectual deliberation and limited to the extent of which your familiarity and awareness could reach. Nature is operating how the organism functions and you do not have to think about or understand any of it. All one has to do is accept it and not tamper with it.

Even if you were to gain an answer to the questions about the self or mind or spirit, nothing of Nature’s functioning can be improved upon. Allowing the natural means surrendering to it. Everything known, felt or experienced is thrown out of the system and nothing is sought after nor expected to take its place. Then, it’s not emotion that flourishes in some manner, but the expressions of life and its many clairvoyant capacities.

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So death, then.

:confused:

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Eventually, though one can live a long life lacking quality so long as quality isn’t required.

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Yep – “nirvana”.

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Not being in conflict with what’s natural. This is the only reality I have, the world as it is today. The ultimate reality that man has invented has absolutely no relationship whatsoever with the reality of this world. As long as you are seeking, searching, and wanting to understand that reality (which you call “ultimate reality,” or call it by whatever name you like), it will not be possible for you to come to terms with the reality of the world exactly the way it is. So, anything you do to escape from the reality of this world will make it difficult for you to live in harmony with the things around you.

We have an idea of harmony. How to live in harmony with yourself – that’s an idea. There is an extraordinary harmony that is there already. What makes it difficult for you to live in harmony with yourself is the creation of the idea of what you call “harmony,” which is totally unrelated to the harmonious functioning of the naturalness of the life functioning inside of you.

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MechanicalMonster
agreed @ .1

Naturally the whole thing is inverse compatible [like a mirror of one another]; there must be equivalent factors in both the mental and physical parties. i.e. a ‘chemical combination-process’ per every mental process. …and probably an equivalent mirror in the form of qualia as a third party.

Course, the problem is that assumedly a more sophisticated ‘god-helmet’ [google it if not known to you], could theoretically manipulate the qualia just as the mind may ~ there has to be a mechanism by which the different parties exchange information, hence a way that such technology could utilise.
Visions would be a very different thing, if you could make god do the hokey kokey :laughing: .

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MechanicalMonster

At the moment I am simply visualising qualia as a thing in itself more than merely a quality. Taking the base notion that all reals are real or otherwise equivalent. I don’t see why a rainbow isnt as real as its invisible particle composing its physicality! In fact it seems bazaar that one would think those particles more real than qualia, and especially that qualia, due to their lack of particles, are not real in the physical sense.

In short, we need to ‘arrive at’ proper classifications of such things and I feel we can only do that via comparisons, and by accepting the given base at least to explore the theory more. Its an evolving thing on all fronts I do believe ~ don’t you?

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finishedman

Except that that infinity [philosophers stone like entity] is not separate from the rest of reality. That is why I feel we can only be talking about integrating parts here, rather than an infinity and also an universe and a mental world.

Is it not truer to state that in fact reality cannot actually be >something that is infinity<, it is also truer to say that the finite equally cannot be itself fully, we see evidence in this where the concrete reality meets the quantum.

We have to see all things as interrelating surely, that there are hence no absolutes.

direct response;
If we cannot separate any thing from any other thing entirely, then we have to accept this fundamental law of nature, and know that we are connected to everything [because everything is connected to everything].

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