cut n paseted from a chat with a freind,
(12/15/2005)
he said “dunno”…
i asked:
“Can you understand the method that naturaly produced pains and pleasures in a specific direction because of a structure of direction fed by what objective data?..”
So im eager for a reply to my own question,
as i meditate about it aswel.
sense
sorry dan the man… you are just too clever 4 the fish…unless the question has no answer…anyway…maybe i will meditate on that one, too.
I don’t even understand the question…
every time I see that banana girl my stress levels are reduced by 50%
dan you are just bored, aren’t you? maybe that is the true and only answer to this question. 
ok…
what we want and expect,
gives us pain and pleasure,
aside from natural body needs/damage.
Im talking about want and not need,
because natural needs are meant to support the existance of the organism,
but want is learned / un-learned…
so,
there is a method that we use to create want and “perpose”,
and this “direction” or set of values,
is like “character”?.. as we keep changing as people,
we are changing for the sake of our own direction,
and trying to suite it better as we learn, right?
so… i called “direction” [in life] a “structure”,
and was wondering what that “structure” was made of?
And i thought that it was objective data, but what kind?
What experiances in your life change you forever?..
but then what made you choose to change in that way?
because we choose how we use our knowlage and feelings…
so then…
Is it what we choose to compare all things to?
The root of it “all” personal change, (in thoery) is:
We can do somthing that feels best for us,
or we can do somthing that is best for the environment/all life in it,
or we can try to do somthing that is best for “God”,
which turns into idealism,
which is later analized,
and becomes either wisdom or insanity(?)
When i would apply things to others,
i would always apply them to myself aswel…
its strange to explain, but when i applied the principal of insulting people and ciritisizing them (years ago when i was a kid) i also applied this to myself… and eventualy had to get rid of it.
its like symbiotic vs parasitic or seporatist.
What was the objective data that this structure of direction was built with?
Well, the realization and understanding of other life forms.
(Theoreticaly) the amount of freindship and love we exersize/recieve,
is like social posative objective/subjective imput…
And abuse is anti-social objective/subjective imput.
…which makes or breaks living for yourself / living for & with your environment?
(imo) there are two forms of comfort:
1 is receiving what you want, 1 is recieving what you need.
Many thanks, but i feel like humans and culture should avoid judging people and compareing one to the other, you see:
I wish that one never realy had “self image”,
and just focused on imrovement and refinements,
instead of saying that they are “good” or “bad”,
or “big” or “small”…
^
But is this type of thinking not natural to human psycology?
Do childerent “need” “self image”, or do they want it because of being exposed to judgement (im talking about in-complete judgement, overly specific and not aimed at the goal/future of the status, but the current status.)?