The drill goes: ILP member complains, ILP member leaves, ILP member comes back complaining that all the other forums they’ve jut tried have banned them for breathing wrong or having differing thoughts to the herd… see, we allow free-thinking here because a herd mentality does not breed good philosophy or discussion - all returnees are welcome and so is the feedback they share about the other sites,
I think there’s a difference between trying to make the site better, and just complaining. It’s more than a bit uncharitable to suppose that anyone doing the former, is really just doing the latter.
Your attempts to make the site better became nothing more than a hissy fit when you refused to accept the reasons given to you. Those reasons were lessons learned by experience, not just a theory, as was explained to you several times, and yet you chose to ignore those explanations. Furthermore, and more importantly as far as I’m concerned, not one other member of this site chose to support you in that thread. To top it all off, you have made it your agenda to continue to bitch and moan about this, by way of your signature.
As stated, I’ve had my run-ins with the mods. In the most memorable, a moderator treated me like a child and refused to answer my questions, at which point I raised all holy hell. There are two major differences between what happened with me and what happened with you – I was given no decent answers to my questions until I flipped out, while you were given explanations several times, and I did have the support of other members who agreed with me, while your proposed changes seemed to be an effort to help only yourself, as displayed by your complete disregard and utter disrespect of any member who spoke up in opposition of what you were trying to do. Is it possible for you to see this distinction, or are you so blinded by your offended sensibilities that you will continue to yes, complain?
In a rational argument, you present reasons why you think what you do. You then have to address the other person’s reasons for thinking what they do. This is what you do in the other areas of this site—not so much in Mundane Babble. This is what I was doing in that thread.
…If you can find a post where I threw a “hissy fit”, then I’ll feel less insulted. I think you can’t, and you’re just trying to get a reaction—a bit like people do in Mundane Babble.
Many members of the site support me. And the only ones who don’t are moderators, or people who have a vested interesting in keeping their grubby hands on your words—like that guy who made an index, or whatever. If you think I’m lying, then ask the moderators why they don’t want to do a popular vote about this issue. If what people wanted was what mattered, then there should be a vote. We can even hold the vote in a thread in Mundane Babble—where you live.
How many times do you have to be told that what you see is what the majority of the people want. If they didn’t, they would abandon the site. That you refuse to accept this says everything about you, and absolutely nothing about the site. You really need to start your own philosophy discussion board. If you spent half the energy starting a site that you’ve spent blah blahing in this thread, you’d be up and running the world according to your own dictates.
Your continued bitching about ILP suggests that you have personal “issues” not resolvable here, or any other place on the internet. If you want a perfect world, create your own. Stop expecting others to bow to your wishes. They have wishes of their own.
Sorry tentative, I don’t care for what you just said, and it doesn’t deserve a polite response.
The fact is, much of what would have value for the site already is in other places. They have abandoned the site. You seem to like what’s left, and that’s fine. —But it says everything about you. And sure, I can go there—I already have. Sometimes though, if you don’t like something, you shouldn’t just wash your hands and move to another country. I’ve participated here for a lot of years…
Does nothing about what you just said seem wrong to you? …Accusing me of “personal issues”, bitching, etc. Read what you wrote to me. If that isn’t the most blatant hypocracy I’ve ever seen…
I’ll say to you the same thing I said the last time you decided to bring this up —
If you purport to make the site better this is not the thread to do it in - please remain on-topic, thanks.
Moderators across the web get a lot of feedback, and almost none of it, on any website, about any topic, is positive. If we normalize the distribution of sentiment expressed about internet forum moderation, “pretty damn good” becomes “fucking phenomenal.”
Way to go, team! 
You have not proved you can ascertain what good/quality philosophy is.
The last thing that is allowed here is free thinking.
That’s like the guy standing on the sidelines of the sports game jeering that he would excel because he’s spent so much time watching.
You have to practice to keep your edge. It’s a universal maxim.
Thinking and learning, these things don’t always require a dialogue, OG. You can learn all kinds of new things by simply reading, listening, and contemplating. An exchange isn’t always necessary. In fact sometimes, it’s counterproductive.
“Keeping your edge” can be a self-contained exercise, as someone said in another thread: “The end goal of at least 2/3s of the illuminated is to further the knowledge of one’s self… This isn’t a competition.”
Reading without commenting can be a way of keeping your edge. It just depends upon your goals.
If you ever want to see how much you really understand some idea—as opposed to just having a weird sensation that you might—then try telling someone about it. Personally, I find 100% of the time that I don’t know the idea as well as I thought I did, in my head. Talking to someone requires taking steps that always seem to get flown over, in thought.
That said, on behalf of Magsj; could you please remain on topic…
That said, it is like that.
I never said I would excel, did I? I never claimed to be some great philosopher who could blow you all away with my thoughts. That is not my ambition. My approach towards life in general is philosophical. A lot of the things that you all spend hours and hours discussing and dissecting are things I figured out a long time ago, not because I’m so super intelligent and better than you, but because of the way I approach life – as a learning experience. I enjoy reading what other people have to say about it, because it sometimes help to clarify or illuminate. A lot of these thoughts are pretty unspoken, and when I come here I find words for them. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gone onto the philosophy board, or any other for that matter, read a thread, and said to myself, “Yeah, that! Exactly!”
I see no point in discussing how these things occur and relate to me because first of all, I get shit for making it personal, and secondly, there’s usually someone who can and/or already has said it better than I could. I’m not here to compete with anyone, Gobbo. I don’t need to make myself seem better than anyone, because I’m not. I’m just Nicole, and you’re just Gobbo, projecting your own insecurities and inadequecies onto everyone else so as to make your assumption that I must try to “keep my edge” more plausible. I’ve said it to you over and over again, but I’ll say it once more – get over yourself.
Take it down the street, kids.