Race culture and the tides of causal forces.

[Amorphos]

Race culture and the tides of causal forces.

This is a bit of a random one, but as I can find no basis for race and cultures being more advanced than a given other, thus I have to look for other reasons [I.e. than race and culture]…

At another forum I was ‘privileged’ to take part in a debate asking why black rule in south Africa [and other African nations]. The authors thoughts concerned the apparent fact that, S. Africa is falling apart due to the inability a black people to govern themselves. Whilst inane, it led to some interesting sideways arguments, in the end it comes down to education and knowledge. The interesting thing is; why are certain places more advanced than others?

There have been many epicentres of knowledge throughout history, for example such centre’s have been Greece, Persia, Rome, Judea, China and more recently Britain, Europe and America. A recent Japanese study showed for example that 70% of what all the world uses emanates from British invention, so we could say that the most recent epicentre of education and progress [where invention is integral to advancement/progress] to would be Britain ~ to some degree.

Is this because we are British, because there is a race and/or a culture of Britons who are more advanced than others, of course not. All of our inventions derive from former inventions which in turn derive from those before them. The epicentre moves around the world simply by ‘tidal causal forces’, within that it is probably so, that some people become proficient in collecting and exploiting data.

Let us then imagine that like the ‘forces of history’, there are no specific reasons as to why a force has an effect in an area of history, they just happen. Causal forces work like this generally, you begin with a mass of events e.g. world history at any given point, then like tides in that causal ocean they collect into areas of influence…

‘random chance’? yes this is a big factor in it all, however we also have groups both large and small acting toward a given end. This has the effect of processing causality and focussing it in specific directions. As a result you then have collections of such goals, resulting in the ‘causal tides’ I am speaking of. Unpredictability means that this cannot be controlled, the epicentre of knowledge and invention will simply change location almost randomly.

We may note that math is composed of ideas [a number is an idea, just as an equation is], on this the most subtle level of global interaction, there is little if any difference between a number, an idea and an action, as long as they are having an effect in the world they are all events, and ones that are being effected by us. Causality is simply the relation between a cause and an effect, our history is simply sets of these, all events have an effect on this.

In short; I liken the whole thing to dropping a ball on the map, it bounces around and where it lands is a civilisation of particular advancement. Obviously there are many other conditions like geography and how we had to adapt to that, then that lesser cultures adapt to higher ones [or fail completely].

anything to this theory?

[Russiantank]

I read an interesting book… rather my brother read an interesting book, which he later told me about… that argued that the reason African cultures progressed slower then some other cultures was because of environmental conditions. Bassically, the argument states that environmental conditions in Africa required that people spent most of their time/energy just trying to survive. Hunting, searching for water… every ounce of effort and time was spent hanging on to survival.

Whereas, as certain African people migrated north to europe they found an enviroment that for several specific reasons (that I cannot remember at the moment, but one of them was something to do with it being much easier to raise and sustain cattle) survival became less strenuous, thus, bassically creating more “leisure time” for these people. This “leisure time” or time not spent actively trying to survive allowed people time to… think. They had free time to try shit out, experiment, learn, and invent.

Its just like the example I’ve often used to illustrate this point: The tribe that discovered fire wasn’t neccissarily supperior to their neighbors which hadn’t discovered fire… its just that the lightning bolt hit their bush…

[Amorphos]

I read an interesting book… rather my brother read an interesting book, which he later told me about… that argued that the reason African cultures progressed slower then some other cultures was because of environmental conditions. Basically, the argument states that environmental conditions in Africa required that people spent most of their time/energy just trying to survive.

Probably, though there are many kinds of environments in Africa, and has been many civilisations [axum in Ethiopia, nubia etc]. some tech was gained, the Zulu’s for example had metallurgy for spearheads, but perhaps they just preferred hunter-gatherer societies, whereas one couldn’t live like that and have a large population in places like Egypt and Mesopotamia.

This “leisure time” or time not spent actively trying to survive allowed people time to… think. They had free time to try shit out, experiment, learn, and invent.

indeed, this was mainly from agriculture as far as I know, which allowed time and manpower for building cities etc. then all you need is some big ego’s to demand increasingly big buildings [pharaohs], lols.

strange how agriculture and civilisation spread in a relatively short time period, even in the americas, which presumably was disconnected.