if a thought of murdering someone arises in my mind and i laugh it off, is that
wierd?
Depends who it is, but I don’t think so.
Sometimes thoughts are just thoughts. For instance right now everyone reading this post will now think about murdering their…
MOTHER.
Ideas are easy to transmit, putting them into action is a wholly different thing. So long as you’re not having reoccuring thoughts about the same person I would say it’s just one of those things. Random thought.
yah, so what would you say causes a random thought to arise ? and what would provoke a response ? would you say that when imagining something you form a belief(s) about the event you imagined, thinking about murder just more or less re-affirms my prior childish belief that death was a bad thing, and therefore causing someones death would also be bad. if i look at it from the effected persons perspective, i can assume i would not wan’t someone to cause my death, so therefore it would be equally bad for me to cause someon elses death.
I would say it’s all just interlocking back patterns within your memory…
I don’t know if there is any real way to track randomness.
Not necessarily. I have a wild imagination and spout a lot of nonsense… but it doesn’t mean all of it has to be true.
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Yeah exactly.
Not necessarily. I have a wild imagination and spout a lot of nonsense… but it doesn’t mean all of it has to be true.
what i’m getting at is this, is our imagination a good tool for affirming or denying a belief? you have certain absolute beliefs that, when imagining a situation, provide grounds for judging the plausibility, of the event actually taking place and the possible consequences. if i imagine an elephant flying ( i know the physics of it are impossible so it seems humorus even to think of it actually happening) if i imagine taking a corner on a dirt bike (via past experiance) i have a more vivid(detailed) idea of what may take place.
can we imagine anything from the things perspective? i think not
i think our imagination is definately tied to our senses and past experiance.
can you imagine a tree without imagining yourself viewing the tree?
this reminds me… did anyone ever win the great ilp insanity contest?
I would win that contest hands down. give me 2 hits of acid.
@Trevor_W, these are not good times for murder. Much too easy to get caught.
If I were you, I’d do my killing in the Hindu Kush, the High Atlas or Kampot Province; the sorts of obscure and little known places where there are no ID cards etc; where the Pashtuns, Berbers or Khmers might look the otherway; where a skull turning up wouldn’t be anything out of the ordinary.
These days, you’d be a fool to murder anyone anywhere in the developed world.
In light of this post,
and also this one,
and this one,
laughing it off may be understatement?
did you ever think of a wiered thought and then run with it for the fuck of it.
sometimes i like to fuck with people. though usually less graphic then saying i’m a murderer.
but anyways, how do you think it might be an understatement?
if i imagine doing something don’t i also imagine the consequences( to the best of my ability)? is the imagination of an action, when compared to my absoultely held beliefs, a tool for exposing the plausibility of an action and its consequences? i think so
any time i hear of a mother murdering her kids, or a person raping some little girl, it re-affirms(through a feeling of disgust at the rationalization of
the act) that these acts are only done by “fucked up” people. because i believe that rape is bad, murder is bad ect.
also if the Leafs sign Clark Wilm next year, i will also have a feeling of disgust after rationalizing the act and past experiance( lack of production last year, much better options available this year) i believe with more cap space this year they can improve the Team and C. Wilm wont help.
I do not laugh off something which is almost an obsession for me.
But I do not think that murder is an obsession for you.
Loeb and Leopold have already tread over this ground for us.
Myself, especially after watching True Crime documentaries I occasionally imagine how I would abduct a person. I think the line between imagining and doing is very thin. Very thin. The doing is not necessarilly emotionaly terrifying until well into or after.
Be these things as they may, this conversation could easily drift into Felony Counselling, and therefore I don’t think I wish to add anything more at this time besides to say that imagining a serious felony and fantasizing about it is exactly the way that such serious felonies come to pass.
Murder…Blood…
These things are embedded in the very heart of the words “Human being” and have been since the beginning of time. After all, what better survival tactic is there than to eliminate any and all compitition for resources, save those that obey and follow you?
Damn straight, thoughts of murder are natural. As for murder itself? Sure, go for it…but just be sure to remember that there’re other people out there with the same mindset, willing to kill you if you seem to pose a threat to them.
I.E. “Tread softly, and carry a big stick.” -T. Rosevelt (horridly mispelled, I know.)