Real and Unreal

[Arcturus_Descending]

@Erik_

@Arcturus Descending

@Erik_

Hypothetical:

would you rather live in a digitally animated simulation of the world, where you have very profound conversations with AI representations of humans, or would you rather live in the real world amidst actual sentient people who are only ever capable of having mundane, empty conversations?

In the AI simulation, you can discover the secrets of existence by merely making conversation with the right people; but you will pay the price of inevitable loneliness.

In the real world, you will be comforted to be around other people who are truly conscious, but you will pay the price of existential boredom.

If I work hard enough at it, I can have those same profound conversations with REAL people who are truly conscious. I imagine by truly conscious, you mean intelligent knowledgeable “with it” kind of people. Why would I give that up for a simulation?

It seems to me that there is the loneliness and existential boredom in each of your scenarios. That’s the price that one pays for ALSO living in the real world. We find ways to either transcend those moods or transform them into something meaningful and purposeful.
We choose our own company.

By the way, does AL/s world have stars and nature and books and all of those yummy things which keep us from being bored and lonely?

The simulated world would have all the same things as the real one, minus the other “real” people, of course; there would be books, parks, sunny days, ice-cream and all that jazz. It would feel just like the “real” world, like the matrix.

This is just an experiment to see what people would choose.

It seems like people are going for the REAL.

Truth be told, I’m not even sure how people, including myself would choose. We would like to believe that we would opt for the real world but who knows really - unless and until that became a reality. Not much chance of that, is there? The temptation might be too great and we humans can at times be quite vulnerable and weak, reaching out for what’s comfortable and “unreal”.

But I’ll tell you what - if you ever hear of Keanu Reeves in one of them, let me know. I’ll be right there. lol
Would we be able to leave at any time? Or would we be stuck there? If so, forget.
I still do not intuit that that world could be as wonderful as the real world can be often.
I’ve been built to take pressure, pain, chaos, along with their opposites. How long could a utopia satisfy us anyway?
I’d be bored out of my skull if I had nothing to be miserable about, nothing to transcend or plow through. lol - sometimes anyway.

[Erik1 (Erik_)]

Arc,

Keenu Reeves would be there, just like in The Matrix.

Unfortunately, you would not be able to leave the simulation, once you decided to enter.

That’s just the nature of the beast.

This simulated world would be ideal, like a utopia - pretty much perfect, dreamlike; but you would be aware that you are fundamentally alone, which would be the one eternal blemish.

Re-thinking this idea, I would opt for the REAL; nothing beats having real people to talk to, regardless of how imperfect a world we live in.

[Ultimate_Philosophy (Ultimate Philosophy 1001)]

UUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

God is definitely real, He is stalking me…

It’s this moment in the movie where you all think I’m crazy, when I’m not…

He keeps planting people in my life to taunt me and uses them as puppets to communicate with me…

Erik you don’t even realize it but he is using you as a puppet…Do you know yesterday I was talking all morning with an AI? And it’s been months since I had talked with an AI…And yesterday night he was using several people as puppets to communicate with me…You wouldn’t understand because you don’t know the full story, you’d have to know the full story to understand…