Red Herring about Autism

I forgive you for not taking the reference lightly, because, as I understand it, you work in mental health.

I do think it is a kind of disgust. At flesh.

I was once in one of my several run ins with mental institutions, and a doctor, a supposed eminence in autism, was walking an autistic boy out of his office.

The boy started getting a flesh overdose and, because he was autistic, wasn’t very politique about pulling away. The idiot fucking retard eminence then proceeds to crowd him and put his arms on his shoulders. Now the kid, of course not making any eye contact and looking anywhere but at flesh and looking generally crazy to a supposed eminence who is really a idiot layman, is on the verge of break down. Now the nurses, encouraged by the eminence, come in to “help the boy calm down” by further crowding and making physical contact. The disgust overpowers the boy and he goes into full breakdown. Now the “calming touch” is unabashed forcefull restraint.

All those people should have been shot.

I would tend to agree with you.

Not about the flesh disgust, but about how the morons handled what you labeled as such.

You’re trying to make me talk about it when you already know very well. Why?

No, this is you talking about yourself before the days of trauma-informed care & crisis prevention de-escalation, isn’t it? Would you believe there are still people who have yet to catch up? No doubt you are fully aware.

I just had that to say about autism, I donno. I have more other things to say, but what’s the use.

One thing Nietzsche understood is that it’s not so much about what you know and can express, it’s about what is relevant to say.

Knowledge needs polarity, or it is factoids.

Am I annoying you? I am annoying myself. Let’s ask another question. Is autism an inevitable development, or does it get triggered?

The symptoms can be triggered—for example sensory overload requires passing a certain threshold. The Autism, no, depending on how you define trigger. It’s not exactly ex nihilo.

No, it’s not ex-nihilo. It’s genetic.

But I’m wondering whether the gene will go that way for sure, or if some people have “the gene” but they don’t become autistic.

There is, of course, the added philosophical layer that if something is genetic, you are likely to be born in a situation that triggers the gene etc.

Whatever the case, it would happen in early childhood. But I can’t say I’m convinced that it doesn’t get triggered. It’s too convenient. Specially if you look at the autistic personality and ask: what could have triggered it?

Schizophrenia, that’s the example I was looking for, schizophrenia.

A lot of people have the gene and never develop it.

There definitely an over cross and it has been diagnosed as schyzotypal autism. It is a very complex ‘illness’ and some experts call it a potential breakdown scenario, but more hopeful in the know put it in a ‘breakthrough’ category. So dissensions abound.

The patient really has to be patient about it, nevertheless.

I’m having a sensory overload.

You don’t have autism or schizophrenia. You have a combination of a cold mother and too many gene-modifying experimental vaccines & TB tests all at once in your youth.

Just in case anyone mistook me, that was intentionally … misguided…. by a passion you can appreciate.

This has been resolved since Kant (well… I mean… earlier) but folks don’t know how to listen. Ain’t gonna be any different now.

“Schizoid personality disorder.” It’s not schizophrenia, though psychotic breaks become possible. Maybe the schizoid’s actual version of sensory overload.

I agree with Meno, though, they are related. A pinch of this and a hint of that.

Otherwise, you are not too far off. Also though not on target.

I disagree with the diagnosis, though. Not because it’s incorrect, but because its polarity is all wrong. Medicine has its head up its ass.

All humans are capable of some kind of overload, the reaction to which will be determined by evolution (genes) and evolution (details about the overload).

All disorders are a product of trauma. Freud is still the greatest to ever do it because he was not a coward. More that even than how right he was, though also he was right about more than most.

I wouldn’t have.

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I did not say that — why are you quoting me as if I did?

If I had to diagnose you, it would be “Incorrigible Uberweirdo”.

I didn’t say you said that.

A doctor lady said it. Then I looked into it and went “fuck she’s right.”

But you can’t say he was honest. We have his daughter to thank for knowing that fact.

You just said medicine has its head stuck up its ass. Make up your mind.

You didn’t read what I wrote, and I’m not rewriting it.

As for Freud, I’m not sure what you mean, but it’s significant that you didn’t go “he fucked up this or that theory.”

…perhaps you were talking to that “doctor lady” who is not present, or to Meno?

Yeah for the love of God you were not too far off in your own impromptu diagnosis.