Reinventing Austrailia

I was watching something about the history of prisons on the Hitler Channel and I realized that prisons are wastes of taxpayer monies. I recalled that Austrailia was once merely a land of criminals sent into exile, and look at it today! The Down Under, once colonized with criminals, became a civilized part of the world. How though??

The answer is in this question: How can the system effectively rehab criminals if the system itself is responsible for their well-being?

The Aussies were forced to take care of themselves having been exiled by the British Empire. This method of punishment proves most effective as it forces a person to realize the society they went against is something they cannot live without, due to common mental-conditioning growing up as children.

The system isn’t around to take care of them, so they must think about taking care of themselves, or perish. This is the answer to dealing with crime. Those who don’t care for the society they live in should very well be exiled to a place where their own society can function the way they want it to.

The B-movie “No Escape,” is an excellent example of this idea, only exaggerated.

Escape from New York and Escape from LA with Kurt Russell are even better…

-Imp

this is why I have always thought it a good idea to annex some of the more barren parts of Canada (Saskatchewan anyone?), build a giant wall around it, and make it an enormous prison colony for long-term inmates. of course I am a crazy american, and most of my plans involve annexing some part of canada and building giant walls…

Can you say Greenland? Almost nobody lives there and the people that do probably wouldn’t mind leaving either. Why waste your time and money building a wall when you can put them on an island that only a crazy person would try to leave? Of course some wise-ass will say that most criminals are crazy but you know what I mean. Just have the Canadian Coast Guard look after the waters, it’s not like they’re doing anything right now anyway. If you really want the solution to “storing” criminals and don’t want to use too much tax money, then invest in Winchester. A .22 cal bullet to the head will kill anyone (since it will rattle around making brain soup since the bullet can’t leave the other side) and they cost 5 cents. To be really cost effective buy an axe or buy ten feet of rope that should last a good 100 or so inmates. But if you have morals for some odd reason, you would probably agree that an island would be the best way to go.

As an Australian, I feel I should point out that Australia wasn’t just a penal colony; there were people who went there looking to start a new life.

Check out these fast facts about Australia -

http://www.dfat.gov.au/aib/history.html

“The First Fleet carried 1500 people, half of them convicts.” Not everyone who went to Australia were convicts!

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Surely of course there needed to be someone to show the convicts how to start rebuilding their life by forming a society instead of going out on some walkabout and end up going on a murder spree hunting down the nomadic Aboriginal tribes…taking their fruits of labor in the process.

As I understand it, the French were very adept at making prisons at off-shore locations that served as horrible accomodations to criminals…such as Devil’s Island…

I’m still for shipping convicts to Australia, especially considering how it worked out so well for them. It can become a world wide holding pen for the criminals the world over.

To keep them from over breeding in their captivity, we can send in teams of commandos with battlefield surgeons who can surgically fix individuals they captured and castrate them, since we won’t be able to tell criminal from non-criminal locals, we will simply do it indiscriminately to people we find loitering in university classrooms, state capital buildings, or stock exchange. It can be like the recent Mad Max movie down there, with Immortan Joe.

It must be what Australians really want, they keep making movies about it, so why not?

Australia

When transportation to the American colonies declined with the move towards American independence in the 1770s, an alternative site was needed to avoid further overcrowding of British prisons and hulks.
Due to the continent’s isolation, it was considered ideal for a penal colony, and in 1787 the First Fleet of eleven convict ships set sail for Botany Bay arriving on 20 January 1788 to found Sydney, the first European settlement in Australia.

Many of the convicts were transported for petty crimes; others were political prisoners .
More serious crimes, such as rape and murder, were not transportable offences.
Wikipedia

There were notable convicts transported to Australia, who were engineers, architects, surgeons, painters, writers, pastoralists, philanthropists and it would be remiss of me to not mention Ned Kelly.

These convicts came here to an unforgiving climate, rugged countryside and harsh treatment. Their tenacity and wit enabled them to tame some this wild land, enough for them to eventually prosper and prosper they did.

Today, on the Human Development Index, a country scores higher HDI when the life expectancy at birth is longer, the education period is longer, and the income per capita is higher. It is used
to distinguish whether the country is a developed, developing or underdeveloped. Wikipedia

Out of 188 countries, Australia is listed second and increasing.

In his very fine speech about how gun laws must be changed, full of sorrow and frustration, President Obama made a mistake: Australia is not like the United States. We decided not to be.

The US is too immature a society to be allowed to play with guns. It has never shed its Wild West mythology.
The National Geographic Channel features a show called Doomsday Preppers, a how-to guide for armed and dangerous “survivalists” building redoubts on the assumption that everyone else is armed and dangerous and out to get them. It is a nation that is collectively paranoid.

No, we are not like America. We’re a society the USA should aspire to be.

Is this why we have 5,000 marines stationed in Darwin? Because of how superior your theory on national defense us?

EVERY Australian should be armed, given 1 grenade, one Landmine, and the US can pull out. Your country us weak and backwards, full of environmental disasters, and has to rape and pillage it’s countryside. Real countries don’t have to point to statistical indexes, they exist by their own reputation. Australia lacks one.

But hey, thanks for invading Vietnam with us.

Australia is a joke, period. Your giving a case for short term results at long term losses. US isn’t going to be able to afford to keep a division in your country as well as extensive spy ware, and a naval presence in the region forever. We too aspire to become Australian shitheads too, and this means pilfering the day lights out of our military, and banning weapons, all in the name of socialism. It can easily last for decades in our case before we lose Hawaii to the Chinese. Australia will be Indonesian. Nobody will care.

The basing of marines here is no more than America pissing on what it thinks is its patch of SE Asia, and making sure the pathway is big enough for all to see, especially China. (The issues that were at stake for us in Vietnam remain remarkably relevant to us today. It was about the need to support, and to be seen to support, the United States against China).

It’s an ill thought-out strategy that will set back Australian SE Asian relations years, and will likely turn Darwin into a lawless R&R camp for American marines. Besides the US marines are not even in Darwin during the cyclone season.