pray for the mentality to see through your plot to irritate me.
Jesus as a Human Being was the only person that was God.
You see the Holy Spirit would have to work through my imperfect body and mind.
The Holy Spirit heals the soul into something simular of that of the innocents and purity of a new soul.
Thus your soul can be healed from worldly hurt and you can focus on an attitude of gratitude toward God. Thus spend more time rewrireing your thought precess toward what Jesus would prefer it be.
So much hate, I find peace in the fact I used to be like you. Then I found God.
I was just letting you know that posting as you did [super Christian] will get the same boring mean responses from all the douche bags on this site (My self included)
In the preface to Phenomenology of Mind, Hegel said that “the truth is the whole.” Therefore, any set of propositions which falls short of being a complete system covering the whole of reality will, due to its incompletion, generate its own inadequacies or contradictions.
I just want to prompt people to open their eyes to God. That takes blatent violations of the walls they build up to create their own philosophy in their own eyes.
By saying “true” you are agreeing that “your belief SYSTEM” [Christianity] is imperfect and generates its own inadequacies and contradictions. Do you still say “true”?
Sorry but I have to point out the obvious logical error here.
If all sin was from ignorance then how can God hold that against us since we are all ignorant compared to him till the day we die?
Do you spank a baby for making dookie in his diaper? No, because he is ignorant of it at that point.
Sin in my estimation is only sin when you do it for selfish reasons. All sin or bad against others is because someone puts their personal desires above another’s well being, that’s why its so ugly and that’s why all sin is the same in Gods eyes.
truth inadiquacies happen when a preacher is stigmatized to a whole subject when he hates one part of the subject. God had no inadiquacies. Jesus spoke through language and understanding barriers to reach people today. This limited Jesus’s word.
Good man! You understand that even the system of the language that Jesus spoke with to communicate with us is imperfect. So was Jesus imperfect because he spoke imperfectly to us?
I came back to this thread because I was sort of perplexed why it still gets attention. I’ll bet Phil thinks it’s because of his god. Anyway, I’m surprised no one made any comments about that quote I posted of Martin Luther’s. So… I read back and decided to reply specifically to some really unreasonable things that were said.
So, Phil… can you prove not only the existence of your god, but even that Jesus existed in the first place? If you claim to have proof, I would be very interested in seeing it.
Wow… this response completely dodged everything I asked. That is just not reasonable… but then, you’re an unreasonable kind of guy. That much is true so far. In any case, I will have to decline your suggestion to how I should spend my time. However, there is a suggestion I will offer to you that I think would be wise for you to adhere to: spend more time on your grammar and even more time on your spelling. If you ever want to make people think or feel that you are telling the truth, you have to appear as intelligent as possible, and a step in the direction of achieving that is having good grammar and spelling.
By the way, can you prove the existence of a soul too?
Hmmm… I can see how you would assume that “hate” is behind my words, but you are mistaken. Allow me to be more cordial about it. Christianity is a monotheistic religion that halts the progression of the human desire to accumulate knowledge, hides behind a mask of love when it practices war, inhibits the potentiality of world peace, condemns the use of reason, alienates common sense, revolves around a guilt-system to control the masses, generates inferiority complexes, provides a foundation for a cult of suffering, glorifies poverty and hunger, builds intolerance for non-Christians (especially homosexuals and atheists), preaches tenants that are found in other cultures (showing that there’s nothing new that it can teach), assumes that morality and ethics are divinely created or inspired, is based on assumptions obscured in history (most of which are likely false), denies scientific fact, and more… In short, it is the worst religion ever conceived. It spread throughout the world not by peace, but by war; murdering and torturing people in the effort to coerce them to believe. Need I say more? This is not hate, this is fact.
By the way, it is unlikely that you used to be like me… if you did, how come your spelling and grammar have devolved as so? How could you abandon reason for a fantasy? What happened in your life to make you so susceptible to the persuasion of perfect strangers? No… you were never like me.
Explain to me how Christianity went from a religion of peace and love to torturing and murdering people in the Inquisitions. I hope you have a real good explanation, because I know someone who would love to hear it.
I’m not trying to irritate you, I’m trying to help you see the errors of your ways. I’m trying to show you that reason is better than what you’re letting lead your life. I’m trying to help you see the truth of this reality, because there is no truth in your fantasy. When you discover how religion psychologically manipulates people, and how the mind plays tricks on itself… you can then come to understand the real world and how to live in it.
Because I brought it back from the graveyard after I stopped checking it.
Proof of Jesus,… watch the history chanel. Proof of God???
1)How about the fact that science cannot explain the first cell. Take into consideration that the nature of all energy is to equal out. So there is a chemical pool that the chemical energy didn’t equal out. It was layered by density or fed from a underground vent. Then a group of amino acids clumped together to form protiens. (science has made amino acids but not protiens under this model) These protiens were swirled around to form a cell wall,… then somehow stayed together. This allowed controled ozmisis by chemical density. Witch allowed the heat to expand the cell wall and allow controlled ozmosis of other chemicals. This allowed energy to be contained in a cell wall. Yet there is still the very thing needed to have life… Reproduction. It takes a nucleus, two seperate complex chemicals inside and outside the nucleus,… and a dozon seperate parts to have life including DNA. All of this is simple but with a complex process. The chances of this just falling in place then being magically zapped to stay in place,… well that’s about 1 to 9 to the 9billionth power. Or even greater.
The nature of energy is to equal out. Yet they have noticed that black holes will stop feeding. They theorize it would take more mass for the black hole to actually reach the rest of the galaxy. Thus starting some kind of perpetual motion. Big band theory has a big hole.
The nature of all energy is to equal out. So opposites attract. The four basic aub atomic particles are attracted to eachother. The religious theory says that everything comes from nothing. To create something out of nothing you have to create it’s opposite also. Thus divide nothing into four, and when these four equal out you have the phanomanom of quantum fluctuation.
The soul is an energy independent of matter, yet has a residual effect to matter. Thus matter reacts to the soul. Thus the brain is a complex chemical energy storage facility that each section reacts to certain spiritual energies.
The Holy Spirit heals the soul. An emence feeling that can only be explained as spiritual. Thus science hasn’t touched it.
Five is man. Man is imperfect. Five points to guide you to my point.
Because I brought it back from the graveyard after I stopped checking it.
Proof of Jesus,… watch the history chanel. Proof of God???
1)How about the fact that science cannot explain the first cell. Take into consideration that the nature of all energy is to equal out. So there is a chemical pool that the chemical energy didn’t equal out. It was layered by density or fed from a underground vent. Then a group of amino acids clumped together to form protiens. (science has made amino acids but not protiens under this model) These protiens were swirled around to form a cell wall,… then somehow stayed together. This allowed controled ozmisis by chemical density. Witch allowed the heat to expand the cell wall and allow controlled ozmosis of other chemicals. This allowed energy to be contained in a cell wall. Yet there is still the very thing needed to have life… Reproduction. It takes a nucleus, two seperate complex chemicals inside and outside the nucleus,… and a dozon seperate parts to have life including DNA. All of this is simple but with a complex process. The chances of this just falling in place then being magically zapped to stay in place,… well that’s about 1 to 9 to the 9billionth power. Or even greater.
The nature of energy is to equal out. Yet they have noticed that black holes will stop feeding. They theorize it would take more mass for the black hole to actually reach the rest of the galaxy. Thus starting some kind of perpetual motion. Big band theory has a big hole.
The nature of all energy is to equal out. So opposites attract. The four basic aub atomic particles are attracted to eachother. The religious theory says that everything comes from nothing. To create something out of nothing you have to create it’s opposite also. Thus divide nothing into four, and when these four equal out you have the phanomanom of quantum fluctuation.
The soul is an energy independent of matter, yet has a residual effect to matter. Thus matter reacts to the soul. Thus the brain is a complex chemical energy storage facility that each section reacts to certain spiritual energies.
The Holy Spirit heals the soul. An emence feeling that can only be explained as spiritual. Thus science hasn’t touched it.
Five is man. Man is imperfect. Five points to guide you to my point.
Thanks for the advice,… other then that you made no point to what I had to say.
All opinion. Yet the intolerance part I’ll attack. You see when you go against other peoples rights you lose your own rights. I can prove that Homosexuality isn’t forced upon us. But a learned behavior. Yet you’d condemn christiand for being right thus putting up walls that need to be torn down.
When people owned christianity for themself they brought in their own personality traits. You see God didn’t want death. Some people were in that position to give it and had to learn their own lessons. A truely Holy Spirit led person wouldn’t kill but defend.
I hope I showed some good points to question your faith in science. Science makes theories baced on half the facts.
Wow… are you serious? The History(Hitler) Channel? Not only is it biased, but it is infrequently objective of facts. As for “proof of a deity”, I expected more from you than question marks. Can you not for once use your mind for reason?
A couple questions: 1) Where exactly did you get this “information”?
2) Have you ever heard of “evolution”?
Again, I ask: Where did you get this “information”? I would very much like to see it for myself as, if you’ll forgive me for this, I do not trust anything that you say.
Still wondering what your sources are… and why you have not yet heeded my advice about fixing your spelling.
Okay, let’s stop right there because I know there can’t be any scientific source for what you just said. I need to ask you some quick questions, which actually pertain to a metaphysical nature to your belief system.
What is the purpose of a soul? (Take your time with that one…)
(Here’s the big one…) What is the purpose of a “Hell”?
Allow me to reiterate both of those questions. You (as I’m assuming) believe that your god creates the “souls” that enter the human body at some point between or at conception and birth, right? If so, then can you explain why your god would create something from nothing and not return it to the same state upon the death of the body? (The ancient Egyptians believed that if you were unworthy of an afterlife, that a big monster was awaiting to eat your soul and you would become nothingness.) So… your “Hell” has absolutely no beneficial aspects to it, right? There’s no chance for parole or anything (no way a bad soul can be punished for a term until they are rehabilitated enough to repent their way back into “Heaven”), right? No second chances in your god’s eyes… you either live in bliss or burn in agony for eternity, right? How does that not make your god a sadistic monster?
I’m still waiting for you to explain how this “holy spirit” exists in the first place.
Care to elaborate on what “five is man” means?
Perfection and imperfection are an illusion… Man simply is what it is, what it has evolved to. Sure, there are ideologies of what humankind “could be”, but calling even that perfection is selling yourself short.
Your points have not guided me anywhere. If anything, I question your intelligence, and your sanity.
Your welcome for the advice, but I would feel much more appreciated by your actual use of it. Other than that, I will now comment on what you previously said…
You have yet to prove the existence of either the “holy spirit” or the “divine image of Jesus”. I’m actually curious about something… you tell me to spend more time rewiring my thought process to what Jesus would prefer it to be. I have a couple questions about that…
How do you know what “Jesus” would prefer?
How come you have not yet rewired your thought process to what Confucius and others who preached the same philosophy of Jesus (before him) would prefer?
Oh? You think it really is that easy to dismiss, don’t you? Open a history book, open your mind… you’ll find that the only opinion I’ve voiced is my choice of words… the actions, the atrocities of Christiandom are still there. You cannot ignore the truth. You cannot ignore fact.
I’m sensing some intolerant hostility from you phil… I disagree with your assessment though. Take a look at President Bush… he’s gone against the rights of the American people; has he lost his own rights? Nope… in fact, he’s gained more rights… he’s gained more power to exercise those rights. Your assessment is false.
You say you can prove it, but you don’t offer any evidence. What kind of discussion are you trying to develop? It looks like you’re the one who’s putting up walls… walls meant to keep your mind closed from the truth; from the facts.
That’s it? That’s your explanation; your argument to refute the Inquisitions? You’ve said nothing, except to contradict your belief.
If your god didn’t want death, then how can you explain all the people he himself killed as it is written in the Old Testament of your book?
If your god didn’t want death, then how come Jesus endorses the law of the Old Testament? Proof: Matthew 5:17, 10:34-36, 11:20-24, 15:4-7 - - and that’s just a few of many!
The Inquisition was an expression of Christian doctrine, not a diversion. Modern Christianity is one of the farthest diversions from the Christianity of your book ever conceived.
Wrong on both counts. I do not have a “faith” in science. I have an understanding of it. Science also develops theories based on confirmed facts. There’s no such thing as a half-fact of physics… gravity doesn’t “half-make you stay on the ground”. I am sure you will most likely ignore all the evidence of truth and fact I have laid here before your eyes. Why? Because your faith is precious to you, you need it for some reason, and any the best way to keep it is to continue deceiving yourself; lying to yourself. I don’t understand how you can be comfortable living with lies and fantasies. It’s almost comical.
